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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 06:12 AM
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Anyone else find it interesting that this Koran burning is supposed to outrage the 'enemy'
Like invading their country and murdering their innocent civilians for 7 years now did NOT outrage them enough to harm our troops?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 06:20 AM
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1. If I was a citizen of a nation that had been bombed back into the 12th Century,
and during a lull in the violence I somehow heard that the citizens of the invading country were burning my religious icon/s (or some remaining shred of my identity) as an insult to injury, after my nation, city, family, friends, pets were killed, I might take offense and therefore strike out at the nearest foreign agent/occupier/so-called peace keeper.

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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 06:35 AM
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4. Good luck with that "lull in the violence" bit. And if you waited for this to "strike out", you'd
be pretty slow on the uptake, I'd say.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 06:45 AM
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9. I am worried about our people over there in Iraq and Afghanistan,
unlike the corporate media that keeps pushing this inane story with a similar tone and quality of a Jerry Springer show.

Hell, every goddamn channel is doing it in some way or another, and it seems like they want the violence to happen so they can cover it.

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 08:12 AM
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21. great comparison...our media has become the springer show
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 03:46 PM
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29. and then we can use that violence to justify more bombing. the ptb are just stirring the pot
of hatred & tit for tat.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 06:21 AM
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2. yep. i think it's psyops.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 06:26 AM
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3. One of the most nonpolitical people I know
asked me yesterday why this Koran burning would all of a sudden outrage folks who have been invaded by US troops.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 06:38 AM
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7. Whom it IS outraging, on both sides, is.......US. THIS IS NOT A WORTHY NEWS STORY.
Edited on Thu Sep-09-10 06:39 AM by WinkyDink
Some goofball weirdo in FLORIDA (why am I not surprised?) is going to do something stupid (hello? FLORIDA!) and THIS MAKES NATIONAL AND HENCE INTERNATIONAL NEWS? THE POPE OPINES??

(Cue the obligatory "It's because of 'American Idol' posts.)
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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 07:39 AM
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15. Out puppet here in Canada chimed in, condemning it. Not sure who
Edited on Thu Sep-09-10 07:39 AM by polly7
pulled those strings but it was the most intelligent thing I've heard him say in like ................. years. He's a very good Christian ya know, and tries real hard to portray his deep, deep commitment to helping mankind. LOL ;)
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 03:45 PM
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28. yep. the only reason anyone even knows about it is because the media is talking
about it non-stop.

a church with <100 members & a reported attendance of 30?

please.
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 06:42 AM
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8. Yeah, I gotta wonder about that too
though funny that Sarah Palin has upset some of her followers by coming out against the burning

http://www.facebook.com/#!/note.php?note_id=427813493434&comments
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 06:36 AM
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5. I can understand the comparison
but that doesn't negate the fact that burning a Koran is extremely inflamatory quite aside from being in bad taste.

Can you imaging the outcry if at the same time some Muslims in Florida got together and burned a Bible.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 07:05 AM
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10. It sure as hell does not help
diplomacy or military efforts.
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 06:37 AM
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6. Indeed-- see this piece for a good summary of the problem
Edited on Thu Sep-09-10 06:42 AM by spooked911
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 07:06 AM
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11. The "Reverend" is certainly seeking publicity for his church - I bet he has
a lot of money coming in now and he is getting to like it.

I wonder what he will burn next month...


mark
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 07:55 AM
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18. Exactly
It's the Fred Phelps school of marketing.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 03:47 PM
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30. question is, why is the media -- particularly the national & international media -- giving it to him
& his lousy church with <100 members?
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 04:30 AM
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34. They are just whoring after rating numbers, looking for sensationalism.
TV journalism is dead.

After 8 years of obsequious sucking up to W, the Terri Schaivo farce, Balloon Boy and now the book burning asshole in Florida, the MS news should be restricted to cute kitty and puppy pictures and the weather and traffic reports. They are well equipped to do that stuff, and they do have great hair...

mark
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 07:07 AM
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12. They were angry and murdering people before that - why blame only american victims?
It seems the only innocents some progressives don't mind being murdered are americans
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 03:48 PM
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31. wtf? how you got that from the op eludes me.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 07:15 AM
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13. Dontcha know history goes back only one day in the past?
Don't connect the dots to the distant past. That's not how it's done. Time starts now without any relation to anything that has happened before. Jeeez!
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 07:22 AM
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14. I remember way back when protesting the war endangered our troops.
Supposedly,anyway.

I think they said it emboldened the enemy.

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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 07:40 AM
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16. I am an athiest but I find that burning religious books is a lack of
respect. religion is a personal choice and I for the life of me cannot see what good will come of burning texts which are sacred to some people.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 07:54 AM
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17. It also makes every peace-loving Muslim in the world
"the enemy".
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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 08:09 AM
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20. That is the saddest part. I feel so bad for them. The Bible contains
just as many teachings that could be misinterpreted and yet is the only hope millions of people in really hard circumstances have. Muslims depend on their religion to sustain every bit as much. Bush's Islamofascist (sorry, spelling....) remarks, the burning of the Qur'an, it's all meant to portray them all as terroristic heathens. Considering what was done to Iraq and Afghanistan, it's some sort of sick joke, I hope most Muslims understand it for what it is.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 08:15 AM
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22. Amen to that. nt
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 08:03 AM
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19. Sick ploy for attention


which our sick media are eager to exploit.

If we had responsible journalism in this country, these goons wouldn't have an audience for their SickFestFlameandHateParty

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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 08:21 AM
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23. It's a ridiculous proposition
America has the most heavily armed and protected army in human history, and they are already at war abroad.

They are not the ones threatened in any big way by any new jihad arising from any Koran burning.

The real people at risk are American "soft targets", like embassies, businesses, students, travelers, etc.

Apparently the administration thought it smart to play the "troops in danger" card, thinking that using this meme would appeal more to the pro-military, right-wing anti-Muslim crowd who they identified as having influence over Jones the nutcase.

I think that's a dubious strategy at best.
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 08:26 AM
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24. But we haven't invaded every Islamic country yet.
This is a very public way to spit on all Muslims. There are something like 50 members of this church, yet they'll mark all of America as anti-Muslim.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 09:01 AM
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25. It's stupider than a US president yelling Bring it On!
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 09:32 AM
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26. Not every single Muslim wants to kill us. Yet.
Though at this rate we'll get there soon.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 10:58 AM
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27. Clearly you do not understand how provacative an action this is to muslims
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 03:50 PM
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32. bullshit. it's a church with less than 100 members,
clearly you don't understand that it's our media doing the "provoking".

no one would know anything about this were it not for the media, who clearly have some interest in stirring the pot & "let's you & him fight".
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 04:43 PM
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33. More provocative than invading their country and killing their people?
That's my point. Why should we expect outrage all of a sudden because some idiot preacher at a teeny church is burning the Koran?
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 07:49 AM
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37. B + A > A
Burning the Koran, invading their country and killing their people

is more provocative than

invading their country and killing their people.



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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 04:37 AM
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35. Compared to collecting their fingers as trophies?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 06:57 PM
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39. Burning a book is far more outrageous
:sarcasm:
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 07:41 AM
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36. Good point
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 08:34 AM
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38. Yes, it's more absurdity from the Crazy Factory on the right.
Nine years of killing people unconnected to 9-11 hasn't pissed them off, but a Koran burning will do it?!
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