We need to "surge" on Hope and Change

[gulliver]

One strategy in the November game plan ought to be doubling down on Hope and Change. Both are needed now more than ever. Far from abandoning them, we should be reiterating them. Hope provides the will to change. The Republicans are trying to kill hope and feed resentment.

[LWolf]

1. Republicans didn't kill hope and feed resentment.

The Obama administration did, by embracing non-change, and destructive change, instead of the change we believe in.

At this point, I'm hoping Obama and his neoliberal administration can't change anything else for the worse.

You're going to need something more than hope and change in November. You're going to need some Democrats who can provide them.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

4. Well said. nt

[gulliver]

5. I "hope" you find a way to regain your hope.

Obama's been doing his job. Graded on the curve, he gets an A, in my opinion. But that is just an opinion.

I also think it is up to us to help keep Obama's hope alive (and that of the other Dems). Never give up or in when there are Republicans to whip.

[LWolf]

24. Regain my "hope?"

Is he going to fire Duncan, appoint an actual educator, and get off the privatization and union-busting bandwagon?

Is he going to institute a wpa-like jobs program instead of helping Republicans with their tax-cutting goals?

Is he going to allow his neoliberal appointees on the cat food commission to drive the efforts to destroy SS, or?

Is he going to get our people out of the middle east?

[MadMaddie]

2. Gulliver you are absolutely right!

This is absolutely the wrong time to talk about quitting. We need to get motivated and stop the Republicans from gaining anything in November.

[mix]

3. Then give us "hope" and "change." nt

[Sherman A1]

20. Agreed & Well Said

[Edweird]

6. Sorry, the horse is out long of the barn. PR isn't going to fix this.

[gulliver]

7. When the horse throws you, you don't shoo it out of the barn.

You have to get back on.

[Edweird]

9. The cat is out of the bag. The jig is up.

What you do speaks so loudly that I cannot hear what you say.

[gulliver]

12. You probably can't hear me over the horse, the cat, and ...

...and the power drill. Once you let the cat out of the bag, he goes straight for the world's smallest fiddle.

[Edweird]

13. Actions and failures to act have shown a pattern that a slogan cannot ameliorate.

[RainDog]

8. LOL. good luck with that. Evidence is not there for hope or change

and people, honestly, do not buy such bullshit anymore when Obama is going after social security, unions, public schools, when he made a deal with pharmas before the HCR bill even came under discussion...

at this point, the only thing Democrats have going for them is that they're not tea partiers, as far as I'm concerned.

[gulliver]

10. ROTFL. The burden of proof is on the hopeless!

Negative thinking should always be taken with two grains of salt. It has to be that way, because negative thinking causes failure while hopeful thinking and action cause success.

[RainDog]

15. yes. it has been demonstrated that hopeful, delusional thinking is adaptive

while negative thinking, on the other hand, has been demonstrated as being more realistic.

this doesn't indicate negative thinking should be taken with a grain of salt because it's not true - this indicates that delusional thinking makes it easier to deal with facts that don't support the delusion.

if I were REALLY realistic however, I would be trying to leave the country to live in a democracy rather than the shit we put up with here. but I choose to be near the people I love.

[walldude]

11. Not many are buying the hope and change thing anymore...

It's a dead slogan, and Democrats are frustrated. At this point the wisest thing the Democrats could do is spend their entire campaign fund pushing the meme that Republicans voted against health care for 9/11 first responders because they wanted to keep tax loopholes open for foreign corporations that do business in the U.S.

The Dems can't win on "hope and change". The best they can hope for now is to show the country how much worse it would be if the Repukes regain power. This is a "lesser of two evils" election, there is no real party for the people anymore.

[gulliver]

14. I don't think it's an either/or.

I agree we need to be blaming the Republicans for absolutely everything they caused...if nothing else to keep them from blaming us. But I think the market for hope and change is always there. "Hope springs eternal."

Don't let Palin turn it into a "thing" to be mocked. That's her political instincts at work. We don't need the Republicans' aging spokesmodel telling us how to feel.

[walldude]

17. Palin didn't ruin it, the Democrats did.

They chose to turn a blind eye to the many many crimes of the Bush administration and "move forward". But forward was more "sideways". And boy if you happened to disagree with the "Republican lite" mode of governance you were put right back in your place.

How can you expect people on the "far left" to have hope for anything when they are labeled as "fucking ret*rds" by the very administration that is now begging for support?

[gulliver]

18. Well, I do like Pink Floyd...

...so I guess we agree on something. I don't think the Dems chose to turn a blind eye to the crimes of the Bush Administration. I just think the best attack is in campaigns and at the voting booth. Losing elections punishes parties, and the Republicans have not come even close to finishing the punishment they earned under Bush.

[walldude]

22. Didn't choose to turn a blind eye?

Yeah they chose to "move forward". So the punishment for the crimes of the Bush administration was to lose an election? Illegal war, lying to the American people, subverting the constitution, torture, etc etc, and the punishment for that is lose an election? Are you serious? Gee, lose an election, get a pension, health care for life and a nice salary on the corporate speaking circuit. Yeah thats what I call justice :eyes:


So off topic, are you going to see The Wall tour? I have tickets for November... some fellow roadies tell me the show is going to be amazing...

[gulliver]

23. I probably won't go see it.

I don't usually go to concerts. This is the first one I've been interested in going to for some time, though. I imagine it will be fantastic. Congrats on getting the tickets!

[RainDog]

16. it's funny to me to see someone try to push this bullshit at this time

because, yeah, that idea is dead - and the democrats killed it by their sucking up to the right and the moneyed.

in any case, as usual, I will vote for the lesser of two jackasses.

[NJmaverick]

19. true

[Brickbat]

21. How can you double down on nothing? That was the message in 2008 and I've seen little of either.

And what I have seen has generally been pretty low stakes.

[bvar22]

25. I agree!

The Democrats could do something like this:

Change !!!!
---But THIS time,
we really mean it!



Honest

[Barack_America]

26. Here's your official "double down" spokesman...

I think it will sell!