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DrSteveB (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 01:23 PM Original message |
Greenwald: Obama's deficit commission "stacked with conservatives and corporatists"from both parties |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
1. Have the corporatists been right about anything in the last 3 decades? |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. so, HOW did these people get on that commission??? oh, wait.... nt |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 01:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. They've been very right. Far right even, and it's worked out well |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
3. "stacked with conservatives and corporatists" |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 07:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
49. I know he's not. It's been clear since he started appointing people to his cabinet. nt |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
4. I don't trust anything that those 2 PUMA's Greenwad/Hamsher say. |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 01:48 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Your loss. Wish you weren't trying so hard to take us with you. :( nt |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 09:32 PM Response to Reply #7 |
52. I'm just trying to expose people to the truth. If you don't want to |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 03:49 AM Response to Reply #52 |
59. Truth?? There is not much truth in your comments. Either you are |
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DrSteveB (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 01:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. PUMA is a pro-Hillary organization. Greenwald did not take sides on Hillary vs. Obama |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 02:01 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. WRONG. PUMA was a Ratfucking outfit designed to split the Left. Their support of Hillary |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 02:41 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. lol ouch |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 02:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. Glenn Greenwald is an enemy of the people. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 02:47 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. I happen to know that neither of them eved had The Bam. nt |
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Political Tiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 02:47 PM Response to Reply #17 |
30. You got that right! n/t |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 10:19 PM Response to Reply #17 |
54. Conservatives and corporatists are the enemies of the people |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 12:00 PM Response to Reply #17 |
66. DLC is the enemy of the people and the party. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 02:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
27. Make sure you attack the person, not the message! |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Yep. Just the usual baseless and often false attacks. Zero analysis. |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 09:34 PM Response to Reply #27 |
53. I've already proven the message wrong, and so have many |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 10:20 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Really? Links? |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 03:13 PM Response to Reply #53 |
69. Ah, so you get a free pass on logical fallacies. Got it. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 10:20 PM Response to Reply #27 |
55. It's a tried and true GOP tactic. nt |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 03:00 PM Response to Reply #4 |
31. So, do you have an explanation for why a Democratic president |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 05:58 PM Response to Reply #31 |
43. Ooh, ooh, I know the answer! |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 07:06 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. I know, it's not like we didn't hear them before, over and over |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 09:31 PM Response to Reply #31 |
51. He didn't. Do some research. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 03:48 AM Response to Reply #51 |
58. What do you mean 'do some research' and 'he didn't'? |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
6. Greenwald and Hamsher are known rabble rousers who get off and agitating the reactionary screamers |
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DrSteveB (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 01:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. So you agree with Chait that there should be Social Security cuts? |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 01:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Why does it have to be 'either/or'? |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 02:00 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Presenting a false choice is part of the game and similar to what Greenwald and Hamsher do. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 03:12 PM Response to Reply #15 |
38. You mean Greenwald and Hamsher are recommending stealing |
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DrSteveB (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 02:03 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. But Chait is not a PUMA. How can he be wrong? |
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DrSteveB (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 02:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Well tell us. Should there be any form of SS cuts? |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 04:34 PM Response to Reply #22 |
41. Yes, means testing. |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 06:24 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Means testing is a false flag tool. |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 02:59 PM Response to Reply #45 |
68. Thanks for explaining that. It's scary that so few people remember... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 01:59 PM Response to Reply #9 |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 01:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Actually Greenwald just holds Obama to the same standards he held Bush to. That tends to make Obama |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 02:00 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Actually, Greenwald picks and chooses what information he presents and HOW he presents it. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 02:15 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. That's right, he does. It's called "composition". Greenwald also |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 03:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
35. Well, he certainly didn't make up the facts he presented in this |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 10:22 PM Response to Reply #35 |
57. *crickets* |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 02:07 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. Ain't it the truth. Greenwald didn't move his positions when Obama came in. n/t |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 02:12 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. Someone forgot to tell Greenwald that all criticism of the government was supposed to cease |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 02:35 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Greenwald never truly loved him. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 02:45 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Demanding well-reasoned honest criticism |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 03:04 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. How about you make the effort to expose Greenwald's spin? Just because... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 03:08 PM Response to Reply #26 |
36. LOL. There's goes yet ANOTHER irony meter. n/t |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 03:59 AM Response to Reply #26 |
60. Why don't you take apart Greenwald's article and show us |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 11:47 AM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Fine. Greenwald has at least 4 misleading statements in just the opening paragraph. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 02:35 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. Thank you for your response, I appreciate it. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 02:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
24. So, you would like all the "reactioinary screamers" to go away? |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 02:47 PM Response to Reply #6 |
29. Rabble rousers! *gasp* Why, when the status quo is SO great? |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
8. Having seen Van Hollen totally weasel on this issue, I'm with Greenwald. |
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Faryn Balyncd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
34. And the corporate media have buried what should be the issue of November elections. |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
37. Somebody email this to Obama!! Quick!! He needs to know!! |
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blueworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
39. With Greenwald on this one, although frequently not on all |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 04:21 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Cutting SS benefits will do nothing for teh defiicit. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
42. Kick. |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
44. I admire Glenn's integrity, but we're 4 months away from impeachment |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 06:32 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. There will be no impeachment... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 11:56 AM Response to Reply #46 |
65. There will be impeachment. |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 07:20 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Don't worry, the repugs won't impeach Obama for the nakedness Glenn has exposed. |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-04-10 07:51 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. I didn't say they would impeach him because of Greenwald |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 04:32 AM Response to Reply #50 |
61. And impeachment will explicitly be the fault of Obama and the Dems if it happens.. |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 11:45 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. "Demoralizing your base" is not grounds for impeachment |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 06:01 AM Response to Original message |
62. Those damn "corporatists" again |
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