Different viewpoints of reality and crisis...

[kentuck]

I think a lot of the disenchantment from the left stems from their perspectives of political reality and crisis management.

They seem to believe the country is in much worse shape than the White House seems to believe. They thought we were in a crisis when Bush left office. They see the recession and the high unemployment heading toward a crisis situation, perhaps a depression.

Many centrists, including the White House, seem to believe that a steady course with small steps of progress is the way we should be going. What's the big hurry? The President is making progress.

However, many on the left see the situation differently. We don't have time to make a parachute. We need to pull the ripcord now, before we hit the bottom. It is much more serious than the White House and many supporters think it is. We don't have time for small steps. We must take large steps to escape this crisis or we will be overtaken by it.

It is simply a different viewpoint of reality. Both believe they are right.

[VioletLake]

1. Pull the ripcord without a parachute?

Saw that in a cartoon once...

[NJmaverick]

2. The problem is some of the "left" don't understand that small progressive steps is all that's

possible, that drastic change is a nice aspiration, but it simply isn't possible.

[kentuck]

3. Thanks for taking the other side..

...a good example.

[NJmaverick]

4. Only the "sides' are not as you think they are

it's more like realistic pragmatist vs idealist.

[kentuck]

6. And the "idealist" would say....

Your "realistic pragmatism" is dangerously unrealistic and a half-step too slow to help anything.

[NJmaverick]

7. They certainly might say that, but it would only show just how out of touch

with the real world they really are. It doesn't take much more than a cursory glance at American history to see how slow change is made. Violent upheaval has accompanies the rare instances of dramatic change.

[kentuck]

8. I would say that is your opinion.

And that reality is actually the opposite of what you believe. That is my opinion but I think change does not come from slow steps... but from violence and threats to the status quo.

[pretzel4gore]

5. i can't believe that ours is the most vicious culture in history

but it truly is. And that's because too many people are distracted too much, and allow a tiny reactionary rightwing to have final say about too much. Columbus never discovered sheet; there were 100 million people here when he came like the plague. They've allowed the BIG LIE to rule for too long. And that MUST end badly even if there aint a fricking God, imho. The dollar is worthless, the Plunge Protection Team has spent nearly a $ trillion since junyer took office propping up stock market, and the punks have NO CHOICE now but to press on to 'total victory or total ruin' (and obviously both lead to the same result for us)
And frankly, my dear, i no longer give a hoot. Lettem have it all. Lettem lie until they're dead.