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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 07:22 AM
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Gas jumped TEN CENTS here overnight
It was $2.97 at 3:00 pm yesterday and $3.07 this morning at 6:30 am.

What a bunch of criminals.
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 07:25 AM
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1. Same here
They no longer feel the need to hide their greed.
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lse7581011 Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 07:25 AM
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2. Been Doing That Every Tuesday Here!
Up to $3.09 for regular!
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 07:26 AM
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3. Gas jumps every week after Wednesday or so.
Just because it can, and we'll keep paying it.

Tesha
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 07:30 AM
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4. It went up + 25 cents in metro-Indy over night Monday ...
... from $3.17 to $3.40+ :mad: :spank: :hurts:
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 07:30 AM
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5. 3.09 to 3.19 here yesterday afternoon while I was at work.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 07:31 AM
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6. I got into a little spat with my Republican co-workers yesterday...
...when they started bitching about the cost of fuel.
I let them have it with both barrels...."Hey, you should LIKE the cost of gas"...
"You Voted for the right-wing bastards which is certainly your right, but
when it affects MY wallet, I get royally pissed at your stupidity"
"Maybe it's time you learned that the Republican Office-holders don't give a shit about you
or the average working person"

The silence was DEAFENING! :)
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 07:37 AM
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10. .
:rofl:

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vickitulsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 07:31 AM
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7. Even in Tulsa, OK, where we always used to have the lowest prices
at the pump in the nation, or close to it, they've been jumping prices by ten cents a gallon every week or two or three for some time now. We've been at $3.09 since the last one, and I was actually glad that I topped off the tank when it was "only" $2.79!

At least I don't drive much, so this tankful should last me for about a month. I heard somewhere that we should expect those pump prices to drop again pretty soon, but I don't put much stock in that optimistic outlook. :(

As Jed Clampett used to say: "Pi-ti-ful, just pi-ti-ful!"


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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 07:32 AM
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8. how do the people who make minimum wage
get back and forth to work?

what is it now $5.15 an hour?

i filled up my camry last week it was almost $46.oo.

do the math...

after taxes and filling up the car, some meager groceries, rent, electricity, car payment, car upkeep, water and sewer, garbage p/u.

can it be done?
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vickitulsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 11:11 AM
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14. In a word: No. (It can't be done on minimum wage.)
For sure I don't see how a minimum wage worker could make it in a one-income family, even if there were no children.

I just figured it up, and $5.15/hr for full-time workers (and keep in mind most companies that hire miminum wage people try to keep them at 30 hrs per week or less, so no benefits) totals $891/month.

I live on $740/month, my SSDI income. But I'm retired and make sure I have minimal expenses. It takes me a year to put 2,000 miles on the car (which isn't mine -- my brother lets me drive Mom's old car now, and her pension pays the insurance since I use it to take her places and provide for a lot of her needs).

Hell, I don't even have propane to cook with (because my old motorhome I live in has a small but unfixable-on-my-income leak that makes the fumes too much to bear) or hot water (the motorhome also has electrical probs and won't let me run the hot water heater without tripping the breaker). Can't afford to get the old toilet fixed or replaced either, so I have to manually flush it by pouring water into it.

AND my lot rent here covers the cost of all utilities except propane and phone anyway.

People like me who have to do laundry at a laundromat are paying at least a dollar per load and probably more, and don't forget to include the dryers too. And soap, and softener -- if we splurge on such a luxury as fabric softener.

I mean, when I think about it, I just don't know how minimum wage workers keep the wolf from the door at all, because employed folks have expenses I don't, such as clothing suitable for their jobs, in addition to commuting and childcare costs.

Only way I can think of is to have two adults working full time, and then if they have children or other dependents, a huge chunk of their income goes to child daycare or eldercare -- even though those workers also earn very little.

Dr. B.F. Skinner wrote a "utopian" novel called Walden Two that was about putting his behavioral principles into practice in a community, and he set it up so that the people who did the most unwanted jobs got paid the most. This was determined by how many people signed up for the various jobs that supported the group in their rural or village setting.

The garbage handlers were the highest paid, since no one wanted to do that! Teachers and skilled people who didn't have to break their backs or even a sweat earned smaller amounts but enjoyed their jobs more. And those who cared for the children when parents were not doing it were well paid too, since it's difficult, demanding work and the community saw their children's upbringing as very important.

Of course, by those standards, all the paper-shuffling office workers in our culture who earn big bucks for doing -- well, what DO they do? -- wouldn't get paid much for sitting down all day indoors. ;)

I was one of those for my 33-year career as an executive secretary -- though at my low level of "grunt work" in the office scheme I didn't get to sit down much. I used to muse when the skyscrapers downtown would empty at lunchtime or the end of the workday: What if suddenly all this paper shuffling became useless, say, in a survival situation after global climate change really changes things in a big way?

I mean, those folks would be virtually helpless and unable to do any "real" work! At least until they learned the skills needed and built up some body fitness and strength, of course.

While some of us paper-shufflers spent our off-time doing other things that kept us in shape and learning other skills that could become our gainful employment in a changed society, most of the coworkers I knew did not.


Back to the gas prices. One of my former coworkers who became a friend sent me an email the other day about a citizen campaign to bring down gas prices at the pump -- one which, the heading proclaimed, "might actually work!"

It was simple and easy, since all there was to it was for everyone to stop buying gasoline from Exxon-Mobil, the single largest oil company now. If the campaign caught fire and millions of Americans simply avoided Exxon-Mobil stations and bought elsewhere, Exxon-Mobil would have no choice but to cut their prices at the pump to get their customers back.

And once they did that, other brands would have to lower their prices to compete ... and voila! We have GAS WARS again!

Sounded good to me. I wonder if it ever got off the ground?

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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 07:36 AM
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9. Went from $2.92 to $3.29 here a couple days ago.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 07:38 AM
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11. Overheard On Hate Radio - If You Don't Own Stocks You Deserve To Suffer
I stumbled on a commercial for a brokerage firm that were all giddy about high oil prices...cause they're making money from them and according to this commercial, you could be, too.

The upshot is this place speculates on oil futures and how wonderful it is when the price of oil goes up as this is a "great financial opportunity"...that the money you'd make on this "investment" (which I'm sure would cost you a minimum of $25 to 50k to deal in) would easily pay for the higher energy costs. Ya know...greed is a good thing...and if you can make a couple of bucks off of someone else's suffering...so much the better.
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 07:46 AM
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12. $3.25 in Nebraska nt
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 08:03 AM
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13. $3.25 in Albuquerque n/t
I am soooooo glad the democrats are watching out for us.. NOT!
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 11:15 AM
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15. It's jumped SIXTY cents in three weeks in Minnesota.
Nope. No price gouging going on here. (Exxon reported their most profitable quarter ever last month, didn't they?)
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