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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 05:30 PM
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I Don't Condone What Roger Clemens Did But...
Seriously...is he the only one...to face perjury charges for lying to Congress? Not any of the liars from Bush's justice dept. or his administration, lying CEOs and even supreme court justices?
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 05:35 PM
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1. I don't care that he took "performance enhancing drugs"..
"If you're not cheating, you're not winning."

I would guess, and I have nothing to back this up, that most professional athletes would do anything short of killing themselves to win.

And why do we care? Because we think sport is pure? Bunk and bullshit. It's a circus.

Flame on.

:hide:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 05:37 PM
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2. Bread and circus for the public...no real substance, as you have pointed out.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 05:42 PM
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3. I certainly don't see why he was singled out
but to pretend that steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs aren't a problem is disingenuous. I happen to think that (prescription) drugs are a huge problem in our society right now anyway, but one of the pernicious effects of some of these is that it's trickling down to high schoolers (probably even younger) and the young athletes are very pressured to use them. Then they have lifelong problems. Look at the suicides in pro wrestling. Look at the support groups for women who have been abused by steroid users. I think it's a problem for a lot more people than those who use the PE drugs.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 06:00 PM
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6. I Don't Think Anyone Is Pretending That This Isn't A Problem
But he isn't the only one who has, allegedly, lied to Congress. Why is he the only one facing a trial when so many liars went before them and practically spit in the face of Congress?
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 07:03 PM
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8. That, I cannot answer (I was agreeing with that)
But to the many people who don't think steroids (and prescription drug abuse) are a big enough issue to warrant Congressional investigation, I say phooey. It's a huge problem.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 07:25 PM
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9. We Are In Agreement
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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 05:44 PM
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4. Just a matter of bad timing.
I they had just testified after Speedy Gonzales and his posse, they would have known that all you had to do was say "I don't know" or "I forgot" and they would have sailed right through.
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 05:46 PM
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5. I don't understand why anything to do with baseball is even
a matter for congress to address.

Seriously... 2 wars and a stagnant depressed economy and they're worried about someone cheating in baseball.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 06:20 PM
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7. Why was that guy ever testifying in congress anyway? What laws were being broken?
Some baseball law?? WTF??
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:03 PM
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10. He was accused of possession of Schedule III controlled drugs without a prescription.
Edited on Mon Aug-30-10 08:37 PM by MilesColtrane
Namely, Winstrol and Human Growth Hormone.

He took the rather stupid step of voluntarily testifying in front of Congress to try to "clear his name".

Apparently there is enough evidence to suggest that his statements were lies, and that in fact he was using drugs illegally.

Hence, the one count of obstruction of Congress, three counts of making false statements and two counts of perjury.

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