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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 02:28 PM
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Gallup: We are succeeding in breaking the worker's spirit
Edited on Thu Aug-19-10 02:41 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
Are we whipped dogs? "53% now say they are paid the right amount..."

So much for that revolution. (Or else we'll have to coin, "Revolution of flat expectations.")

Geez... even if you don't deserve a raise you're supposed to *think* you deserve a raise.


The rich man's dream is within our grasp... perpetual 0% inflation, 10% unemployment and workers to scared too generate wage pressure.





(The OP Headline is--of course--mine, not Gallup's. I think it will take a little more doing to radicalize Gallup.)

http://www.gallup.com/poll/142310/Workers-Pay-2010.aspx

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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 02:34 PM
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1. The title is part of the point isn't it.
Edited on Thu Aug-19-10 02:35 PM by RandomThoughts
Taming people, :shrug: That is a presumption of superiority.

If it gets to the point where everyone is working for better change, or even one person, that won't change what needs to be done.

Many think in terms of progress to some goal, as the same thing of thinking what are better goals.


To link the two is to let someone change what you feel and think is correct.

To compromise ones dreams, or goals, that is how spirit is broken, that is the real attempt of many things. Sure people make concessions in discussions and things like policy, but you don't make concessions on how things should be.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 02:39 PM
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3. It is a further retreat from the consumer/producer alliance of 1945-1980
For a while American business felt itself in the role of producing prosperous consumer/workers who could buy more and more.

Flawed, but better than some alternatives.

With internationalism the corporations don't have the same interest in the health of the local marketplace. Tragedy of the commons. "Let someone else pay these slobs we sell our stuff to."
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 02:38 PM
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2. Um...
is it wrong for employees to believe that they are being paid a reasonable amount given their education, training, and experience?

Is life always about getting more money?
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 03:04 PM
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4. K&R'd!
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 03:10 PM
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5. how many think they are lazy and incompetent - because some are
or do they still suffer dillusions of adequacy
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tedder10 Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 03:31 PM
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6. poll CEO and other executives and they will tell a different story
To a person, they will claim they are vastly underpaid for their "Work" even
though they get hundreds of times more for their work than the average worker,
who is paid I believe $17.89 an hour. Pennies for the workers and billions for executives.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 04:26 PM
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8. correct
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 03:49 PM
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7. Recommend
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 06:56 PM
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9. ...
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 07:29 PM
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10. To many workers have internalized the HR/MBA horseshit they're fed non-stop.
When I've worked at mega-corporations it seemed we were forever sitting through rah-rah jargon laden sales pitches about how we needed to increase our productivity yada yada yada... Most people haven't built up the kind of mental resistance to it that the people who tend to post here have.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 07:31 PM
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11. Read "The Shock Doctrine" by Naomi Klein.
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