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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 09:17 AM
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Media nitpicks Dem races while Sen.Richard Burr's at 32% approval in NC and acting DESPERATE!
Edited on Thu Aug-19-10 09:30 AM by blm
So desperate that a Repub group close to his campaign put out an ad against Dem candidate Elaine Marshall calling HER the incumbent.

Broadcast newsmedia isn't too interested in scrutinizing that level of deceit from one of their Republican darlings, are they?

The corporate media will not focus on this race, because Burr is in REALLY big trouble down here in NC. That would upset their preferred storyline that Dems like Boxer are going down in Nov.

The way I see it, Marshall needs an influx of cash to her campaign to get ads up countering the desperate lies of Burr....corporate media won't.

Let's help get the truth out. Burr is going down in NC.

http://elainemarshall.com/donate

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 10:24 AM
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1. Kicking to increase progressive Dems in Senate
.
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NCarolinawoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 10:39 AM
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2. Here's another kick for the much ignored progressive populist, Elaine Marshall.
Edited on Thu Aug-19-10 10:43 AM by NCarolinawoman
:kick:

So now our three term Secretary of State is being called the "Incumbent Senator" by the REAL incumbent Senator from Washington, Richard Burr! :crazy: LOL

I really hope that North Carolinians won't turn out to be as stupid as Burr hopes them to be.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 10:44 AM
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3. Thank you. It's a shame national Dems are ignoring this, too.
Edited on Thu Aug-19-10 10:45 AM by blm
Marshall is SO CLOSE to taking this seat - Burr and GOP know it - and THAT'S why they're making actions are increasingly desperate.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 11:43 AM
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11. Marshall wasn't the Democratic Party establishment candidate.
That could be the reason.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 03:41 PM
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24. Then I like her even more.
I'm a nobody, but I'm old enough to know a little bit about how things work. That must make me an enemy of the Establishment.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 10:16 PM
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30. Yep. Knowing how things work puts one in that position.
She a great candidate. I volunteered work on her campaign when she won the Secretary Of State's office. If anyone can win, it's her.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 10:45 AM
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4. Unrec for complainging about nitpicking while citing "approval" poll results
:nuke:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 10:49 AM
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5. You don't know the difference between BROADCAST NEWS MEDIA hype and simple polling numbers?
Edited on Thu Aug-19-10 10:51 AM by blm
Or, did you just CHOOSE to find whatever you could to distort what was said, ala Breitbart?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 11:40 AM
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9. Yes, I know the difference
They're all horseshit.
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activa8tr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 10:54 AM
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7. What the heck are you talking about? n/t Please TRY to be
logical.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 11:41 AM
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10. "Approval" polls are meaningless popularity contests
There's no logic involved.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 01:09 PM
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12. The point is that CORPORATE MEDIA uses poll numbers to bolster their preferred narrative
against Dems, and do so consistently. They do NOT make even close to the same fuss with poll numbers unfavorable to GOP candidates.

That was the point, you knew that was the point, but, you needed to continue your own consistent, anti-Dem narrative.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 01:33 PM
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14. The corporate media are in the business of selling whatever content they can sell
They are not engaged in a systematic conspiracy to put Democrats down.

That was the point, you knew that was the point, but, you needed to continue your own consistent, anti-Dem narrative.

You conspiracy theorists have only two ways of dealing with information and opinions that contradict your conspiracies: Expand the conspiracy to include everyone who disputes it, or shrink the conspiracy to a hard-core inner circle that keeps everyone else in the dark.

In this case, you have expanded the conspiracy to include me.

:rofl:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 01:54 PM
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15. corporate newsmedia doesn't think it can 'sell' content unfavorable to GOP so they ignore it and
that's OK with you because it's an understandable position? It's NOT a 'conspiracy' for a better political climate for THEIR agenda of expansion, either, right? No...no...THAT level of 'business' decision would no way be a 'conspiracy' would it?

Always there to keep the fascists propped, aintcha, slackmaster?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 01:56 PM
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16. It's OK with me for them to deliver whatever content they want because I support the First Amendment
Edited on Thu Aug-19-10 02:01 PM by slackmaster
Don't you?

I just ignore most of the garbage in the media. I think it's unfortunate that so many people are dumb enough to be easily swayed by it, but there's nothing I can do about that.

Always there to keep the fascists propped, aintcha, slackmaster?

I don't recall ever having a conversation with you on any subject. Are you just flinging poo at me, or are you actually claiming to have a well-reasoned assessment of my political philosophy? Frankly your response here sounds a lot like a desperate knee-jerk personal attack. It doesn't make much sense, if you were to actually consider my stated positions on most subjects.

Who are you, anyway?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 02:05 PM
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17. You've had exchanges with me before defending Bushes and GOP, in general, so I base my reply on the
overall exchanges with you.

The newsmedia has the RESPONSIBILITY to be 'accurate' to degrees not expected of other broadcast media. Shruggig your shoulders at their tactics, and attacking those who noticed, is typical of your positions in the past. Thus...the reply.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 02:07 PM
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18. Oh yeah? Let's see a link or three.
Edited on Thu Aug-19-10 02:16 PM by slackmaster
I've never supported any Bush or the GOP, and I say blm is just flinging more poo in a lame effort to discredit me.

This should be interesting.

:popcorn:

The newsmedia has the RESPONSIBILITY to be 'accurate' to degrees not expected of other broadcast media.

No they don't.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 02:22 PM
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19. Ever read ethics manual for journalism? It was given to my spouse every time he started a job
Edited on Thu Aug-19-10 02:22 PM by blm
with news groups...and it stressed a responsibility to accuracy.

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 02:46 PM
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20. Ah, I think I see your problem
The corporate media are not selling journalism. They aren't even pretending to.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 03:02 PM
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22. yes, they ARE pretending to....and calling it NEWS. And...here's our last exchange where you equate
GOPs on Free Republic blaming Obama for Ted Stevens' death with Dems who watched for several decades as Bushes benefited POLITICALLY from deaths, suicides and accidents. And it's a typical exchange with you.





KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-10-10 01:39 PM
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20. These same people no doubt believe with all their hearts that the Wellstone crash was pure accident.


blm (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-10-10 03:15 PM
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25. and that the dozens of suicides, crashes, and disappearances benefitting Bush family over the last

4 decades have all been mere coincidences.

Coincidence theorists are one big gift to the Bushes' fascist agenda.


slackmaster (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-10-10 03:35 PM
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31. ...Or all of the suicides, etc. that supposedly benefitted the Clintons

Vince Foster, etc.

Goose, gander.

Pot, kettle.

blm (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-10-10 03:59 PM
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37. baloney....they had to STRETCH to make those connections to Clinton - no stretch needed for Bush

I am curious why you want to portray an equivalency?

BTW...some of those bodies they attributed to Clinton were actually Poppy Bush's operations - or would you like to pretend that Poppy Bush had nothing to do with the IranContra/arms and drugrunning that was going on then?
"

slackmaster (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-10-10 05:46 PM
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40. I calls 'em as I sees 'em



LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-10-10 07:27 PM
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46. Impressive and clever rhetoric

Impressive and clever rhetoric. Were that your reasons so too.

KamaAina (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-10-10 05:48 PM
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41. Some measure of their mindset re Vince Foster

Half the rabid right was convinced that Hillary was carrying on a torrid affair with Foster -- and the other half was convinced she was a lesbian.


blm (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-10-10 07:09 PM
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43. doesn't matter...Foster theories from RW don't equate, there's no benefit for Clinton in his death

and certainly NOT on the scale of those deaths that benefitted Bushes. But maybe a governor of a small state wields the same power as a longtime CIA operative turned CIA head, vp, president in YOUR world. Oh yeah...THAT'S the equivalency.


Sid Adger: Mr. Adger, a Houston oil supply company executive and Bush family friend, died in 1996 of Unknown Causes. Mr. Adger was the mysterious businessman who approached General James Rose and asked him to help George W. Bush avoid Vietnam by recommending him for a pilot position with the National Guard.

General James Rose: General Rose recommended George W. Bush for a pilot position with the Texas National Guard. He died of Unknown Causes in 1993. He was immediately buried and no autopsy was performed.

Orlando Letelier: He was torn to bits by a car bomb on the streets of Washington DC just before he was to testify about the Chilean dictator Pinochet. After the bombing, CIA Director George H. W. Bush told the FBI that there had been no Chilean involvement whatsoever. In 1991 the post-Pinochet Chilean Supreme Court asked George H. W. Bush if he would submit to questioning. He refused.

Ronni Moffit: She was Letelier's assistant. She and her husband were riding in the car with Letelier when the bomb exploded. Mr. Moffit survived. Ronni didn't.

Amiram Nir: He was a former Israeli agent who was in Jerusalem with George Bush during Iran Contra. He went under the assumed name of Pat Weber. Nir was scheduled to testify to the Senate subcommittee and it was feared he would reveal the truth. He perished, following the shooting-down of his aircraft with missiles from the helicopter of a man called Gene Tatum, 25-year CIA deep cover agent.

Senator John Tower: He was appointed by the Reagan/Bush Administration to chair the bipartisan committee to investigate the Iran/Contra scandals. He directed the Tower Report and had all the Iran Contra documents and knew the inside of the story. He was killed in an uninvestigated airplane crash later in Georgia in 1991. Also killed was his daughter, Marian.

Mario Ruiz Massieu: An apparent suicide. He was facing charges that he laundered money for the cocaine cartels. A Houston, Texas jury had found that $8 million in his bank accounts was paid to him by drug cartels.

Steve Kangas: His web site, Liberalism Resurgent, was meticulously researched and presented such a problem to the "real boss" of George Bush, Richard Scaife, that he hired a private detective to look into Kangas' past. Steve Kangas was found in a 39th-floor bathroom outside of Scaife's offices at One Oxford Centre, in Pittsburgh, an apparent suicide. Mr. Kangas, a very prolific writer, left no note. He had brought a fully-packed suitcase of clothes with him to Pittsburgh. He bought a burglar alarm shortly before he left for Pittsburgh. Why did he need a burglar alarm if he was going to commit suicide? An avowed advocate of gun control, he nevertheless bought a gun. What was he afraid of? Why did he go to Pittsburgh? After his death, his computer was sold for $150 and its hard drive wiped clean. Everything in his apartment was thrown away.

Mohammed Zia al-huk: Dictator of Pakistan, and knew all about Iran/Contra, the training, funding, and arming of narco-terrorists such as Osama bin Laden. In August 1988, the same day George Bush got the Republican nomination, his plane crashed into the ground with all engines running. The Pakistanis kept the bodies around (in violation of Islamic custom) for weeks, awaiting US experts. They showed up three weeks later and never checked the bodies. Why?

Malcolm Baldridge: Commerce Secretary May 1987. Baldridge was familiar with the Bush family ties to the Communist Chinese. He died in a mysterious horseback riding accident.

President John Fitzgerald Kennedy: An internal FBI memo reported that on November 22 a reputable businessman named George H. W. Bush reported hearsay that a certain Young Republican had been talking of killing the president when he came to Houston. The Young Republican was nowhere near Dallas on that date. According to a 1988 story in The Nation, J. Edgar Hoover said in a memo that Mr. George Bush of the CIA had been briefed on November 23rd, 1963 about the reaction of anti-Castro Cuban exiles in Miami to the assassination of President Kennedy. George H. W. Bush has denied this, although he was in Texas at the time and cannot account for his whereabouts at the time. Bush Killed JFKjr

George de Mohrenschildt: A rich Russian oilman, who was described with his wife as being the two people friendliest to Oswald at the time of the assassination. De Mohrenschildt was the man who moved Oswald to Dallas. In the late 1970's, shortly before the first meeting of the House Select Committee on Assassinations, de Mohrenschildt started seeing a new doctor in town. He quickly became mentally unstable, at which time his wife convinced him to stop seeing the doctor. They moved away and left a false forwarding address. On the same day that the Committee tried to contact him about testifying, he was found dead of a gun shot wound. In his personal address book was the entry Bush, George H.W. (Poppy) and Zapata Petroleum Midland (the oil company owned by G.H. Bush).

Barry Seal: He was supposedly murdered by Medellin cartel members, but a 6-month investigation by Sam Dalton, attorney for three of the accused murderers, into Mr. Seal's life and death uncovered some interesting points. The accused's cartel connections were well known, but not their association with Oliver North's enterprise. Mr. Seal was a drug smuggler, up to his armpits in smuggling cocaine for - guess who? - the CIA. During the penalty phase of the Columbians' trial, testimony by one government witness on the activities of Mr. Seal was so damaging to the government, that 2 of the jurors wanted to change their verdict to "not guilty". The personal telephone number of George H. W. Bush was found in the trunk of Mr. Seal's car.

Florence Martin: She was Barry Seal's bookkeeper and was found in October 1994, sprawled across her bed, shot three times in the head through a pillow. Nothing in the house was taken, including her billfold (in plain view) or her late husband's gun collection. There was no evidence of a robbery.

William Colby: This former CIA director disappeared in an apparent boating accident, and a body was later discovered (minus the life jacket Colby's friends insisted he always wore while boating) and buried promptly. John DeCamp, a lawyer from Lincoln, Nebraska, and Colby's close friend and confidant, said Colby's death was not an accident. He stated that Colby was prepared to disclose that missing P.O.W.'s were working for a dope smuggling operation orchestrated by General Colin Powell, Pentagon official Richard Armitage, and George H. W. Bush.

Mrs. E. Howard Hunt: In December 1972, while George H. W. Bush was at the Republican National Convention, a United Airlines flight carrying Mrs. E. Howard Hunt, CIA operative and wife of Howard Hunt, (CIA operative and suspect in the Kennedy assassination) crashed. Believed to be carrying $25,000 in "hush money", she died in this crash.

Danny Casolaro: He was working on a book that tied together the scandals surrounding the presidency of George H. W. Bush. He told his friends he was going to "bring back" the head of the Octopus. Instead, his body was found in a hotel in Martinsburg, West Virginia, on August 10, 1991, an apparent suicide.

Don McCoy: Mr. McCoy had agreed the day before to turn state's evidence in an FBI investigation that threatened some of El Paso's most prominent business leaders. On February 19, 1988, he took off from El Paso International Airport, banked to the right and headed southwest for approximately 2 * miles before it slammed into the I-10 right-of-way and exploded. With him was his secretary and her 11-year old son. All three were killed.

Olof Palme: He was the prime minister of Sweden, assassinated in 1986. Oliver North, the golden boy of the Bush/Reagan machine, had met with Mr. Palme to discuss the possibility of obtaining false end-user certificates for the plethora of weapons that were being purchased, so that they would seem to have come from a country other than the U.S. Mr. Palme refused to participate, after the plan was presented to him. He was dead within weeks.

Archbishop Oscar Romero: Archbishop Romero was a true hero, speaking out against atrocities by a Bush/Reagan backed fascist government. He refused to appear in public with any army or government personnel, and was a voice for the thousands of tortured, slaughtered and oppressed in El Salvador. He was shot in the back while preparing Mass. The death of Archbishop Romero is one among many. There is not enough space to list the hundreds of thousands who died under Reagan/Bush-backed, right-wing governments.

James Howard Hatfield: James 43, wrote Fortunate Son: George W. Bush and the making of an American President in 1999. The unauthorized biography accused Bush of covering up a cocaine arrest. But during interviews about the book, Hatfield lied to reporters about his own criminal past. A hotel housekeeper discovered the man's body about noon Wednesday, Springdale police Detective Al Barrios said Thursday. Barrios said the man apparently overdosed on two kinds of prescription drugs. Author of Bush Biography Commits Suicide


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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 03:17 PM
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23. And around and around we go, back to your little conspiracy theory
Edited on Thu Aug-19-10 03:35 PM by slackmaster
You can blather on and on about how your conspiracy theory is better than a right-wing conspiracy theory, but at the end of the day they're both just conspiracy theories. That's "equivalency", if you insist, but all you are really doing is saying YOUR conspiracy theory is better than THEIR conspiracy theory.



You have completely failed to produce any evidence that I supported a Bush or the GOP.



Do you believe that Senator Wellstone was murdered, blm?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 03:44 PM
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25. so YOU prefer to believe....you repeat RW smears and think you don't support GOP/Bushes?
Edited on Thu Aug-19-10 04:14 PM by blm
Another exchange had you claiming that Kerry was a phony (so your cousins in Iowa said), his hunt was just a photo op. Completely untrue, Kerry had been an avid sportsman since he was a child and he was a crack shot - all things the campaign press corps KNEW, but, chose to ignore as they fed into the lie that Kerry was putting on a phony humter act - YOU sided with the perception put out by a media unconcerned with the truth, and then you try and claim on other threads that you aren't influenced by the media.

Repeating RW smears against a Dem like Kerry ONLY benefits GOP and the Bushes. You VALIDATE their smears.

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 04:03 PM
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26. LOL
Wut?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 05:09 PM
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27. and you want Bushes let off the hook on matters that called for MORE investigation not less
and especially by claiming there is no difference between those thinking Ted Stevens was murdered and those concerned about the elimination of witnesses to very serious matters in our nation's recent history...witnesses whose deaths happened to be of SIGNIFICANT BENEFIT to Bushes.

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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 09:39 PM
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28. I second your claims, blm
Slackmaster has almost always derided strong democratic principles and, as your evidence here shows, he props up the repukes.

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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 10:28 PM
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31. He is a libertarian
I have a PM where he admits to it. I have had nothing but disdain for him since that exchange.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 10:36 PM
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32. Ahaa
Allows him to fly under the radar, eh?
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 01:22 AM
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34. A Few More Alerts Might Be Worthy
You know he is all about the "big gun" approach to things.
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Liberal_Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 10:51 AM
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6. K & R
This is great news!!
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 10:57 AM
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8. Marshall's Got A Real Shot At This, But That Defeats The Narrative That Dems Are In Trouble
So the race will be ignored by the Corp. Media.

I honestly believe we have a decent chance of increasing our margin in the Senate this year. I think we'll lose some seats in the house, but not nearly as much as the Corp. Media would have you believe.

I will also predict that should we gain seats in the Senate and only lose some in the house, the media will still claim the election as a Repbub victory.
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pgodbold Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 01:15 PM
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13. WOW calling her the incumbent... and I thought I couldn't be surprised anymore. nt
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CRK7376 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 02:47 PM
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21. I would sure love
to see my state unseat Burr. I am so ready to see him gone.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 09:57 PM
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29.  The DSCC infuriated me with their behavior here
I had no problem with them endorsing Cunningham over Marshall. She did run badly in 2002 evidently. But when she won the primary by 9 points and missed the 40% threshold by less than 2%, they should have made Cunningham drop out, not continue to fund him making her waste money. If we lose this emminently winnable seat some DSCC people need to take out some mirrors when they look for who is at fault.
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NCarolinawoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 10:36 PM
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33. Yes, I ended up donating to Elaine when she was obligated to take on Cunningham once again.
What a waste of time and resources! Couldn't help but think that check I wrote should be used to defeat BURR, not the self-serving Cunningham. :(
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 08:21 AM
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35. yeah...it should have been more than obvious that the right thing for Dem party would be for
Edited on Fri Aug-20-10 08:22 AM by blm
Cunningham to concede graciously so the Dems would have money for the race against Burr.
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