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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 10:50 AM
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KFC is hot on grilled chicken but customers aren't buying it
I know this picture makes you hungry:



KFC franchisees aren’t exactly crowing over the chicken giant’s decision to emphasize grilled rather than fried poultry.

In fact, some feel that this health-conscious strategy is confusing to the customer and bad for the brand, according to Bloomberg Business Week.

The chain, which is owned by Yum! Brands, may be aiming to please fat-phobes who don’t want to eat bone-in, breaded, oil-dipped chicken by offering a grilled product.

In January, the KFC National Council & Advertising Cooperative, the group that reps U.S. franchisees, decided to sue KFC to get control of the advertising strategy. This came in the wake of poor sales: second-quarter revenue at American KFCs (those open for a year or more) decreased 7%.
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Franchisees have been clucking with disapproval over a couple KFC decisions. Last year, the company introduced grilled chicken and the slogan, "Unthink KFC." In May 2009, the chain initiated a grilled chicken giveaway on “Oprah.”

Franchisees were told they might get a few hundred customers coming in to redeem their online coupons and get free chicken. Some franchises ran out of food when thousands showed up. “The cost to the franchisee was much larger than they said,” franchisee Pat Dempsey told Bloomberg Business Week. "That started a continued downfall in trust."

Since that promotion was canceled, sales of grilled chicken have sunk, according to Larry Starkey, owner of seven KFC franchises. He said grilled chicken accounts for only about 16% of the "on the bone" chicken he sells.

Some franchisees think customers would be happiest if the chain left well enough alone. One of them, Marilynn Pankratz, who said she learned how to fry chicken from Colonel Sanders himself, feels current KFC officers don’t care much about the herb-and-spice Original Recipe.
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http://www.nydailynews.com/money/2010/08/17/2010-08-17_unhealthy_profits_kfc_pushing_grilled_chicken_but_are_people_buying.html

I'm glad to see the so called health consciousness hasn't taken over KFC. There's nothing quite like a bucket of Original Recipe.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 10:55 AM
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1. The few times we tried the grilled it was too dry
It tasted like dried rubber.

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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 10:58 AM
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4. yes, it was dry
i used to love the original recipe, but can't have it anymore due to my diabetes. :(
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 11:08 AM
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5. and the pieces are half the size
:)

That may just be due to lack of breading though :P
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Phentex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 03:04 PM
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61. Got it once. It was TINY! Like miniature food...
Flavor was pretty good but it wasn't enough to feed any of us.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 12:33 PM
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26. Good juicy grilled chicken is so hard to make, and KFC proves it. It's terrible.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 12:47 PM
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32. El Pollo Loco makes the grilled chicken work but
They have actual GRILLS in there -- whereas KFC is more, put it in a George Foreman type thingee.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 02:14 PM
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39. I'm in NY and have never heard about El Pollo Loco. There is one deli about 30 minutes from here
that knows how to do it right and they do use a real grill.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 03:42 PM
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49. Wow really??? Here in L.A.
It seems like there are El Pollo Locos about every 30 feet...I have 4 of them within a mile of my house including a drive thru! Anyway they have big flame grills behind the counter and use a citrus marinade, and have a fresh salsa bar too! Half my fam is vegetarian so I love the choice of rice, beans, tortillas, salad and steamed veggies, one of the few easy drive thru places where everyone around here is happy.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 01:18 PM
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59. I just did a search. There are a smattering on the east coast, the closest to me, 1 in
CT and another one that is temporarily closed, in NJ. The one in Connecticut must be about 2 hours from here. Oh well!

It sounds like a yummy place. My youngest son just turned into a partial vegetarian (he eats fish, dairy and eggs) and would probably have a ball with the salsa bar.

Thanks for letting me know what I'm missing! lol!

:hi:
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 12:43 PM
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29. OMG KFC is the GROSSEST fast food place there is!!
I read where the "grilled chicken" had BEEF as an ingredient. WTF man. The fried stuff is like wet grease sponges so I can imagine how horrid the fake "grilled" stuff is...they have some kind of device putting those phony stripes on it.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 10:56 AM
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2. Really the only reason I never go to KFC..
Is because it ALWAYS takes too long to get your order.

Last time I was there, I used the drive-thru and waited about 30 minutes. I wanted to leave, but I was stuck in line.
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vanbean Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 10:57 AM
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3. That stuff is just too salty for me.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 11:09 AM
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7. Their fried chicken is way too salty for my taste, but I *heart* their pot pies!!!
:loveya:
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 11:12 AM
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Indeed- I cook a lot of my own food and the amount of salt in fast food....
...is absolutely astronomical. I think people who eat a lot of fast food just get used to it. I used to eat fast food quite a bit a decade or so ago and KFC was only "mildly" more salty in comparison. Nowdays I just couldn't go near something like KFC or one of these meat/bacon freakout burgers they have at Wendy's, etc.

:puke:

PB
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Phil The Cat Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 11:09 AM
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6. Too Bad! So Sad!
Profitting from the slaughter of innocent animals is WRONG!

Profitting from the destruction of people's health is WRONG!

Let ALL the killer food joints either change their murdering ways or go out of business!

Some will say, "What about the jobs? People need jobs!"

Yes, of course they do! They need jobs USEFUL to EVERYONE!

Healers and caregivers for the sick and elderly!

Organic farmers, weeding and controlling pests by hand, not chemicals!

Engineers and laborers building a clean energy system!

Carpenters building and rehabilitating homes for the poor!

THESE are the things people should be laboring on - not giving tasty poison to people!
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 11:10 AM
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8. .
:popcorn:
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Phil The Cat Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 11:16 AM
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11. Thank you for eating Popcorn
And not murdered animals!
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 11:23 AM
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12. It's lunch time here,.. gotta go grab my turkey sandwhich from the frdge... BRB.
I eat less meat nowadays, but I'll never be a vegetarian.
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hugo_from_TN Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 03:01 PM
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42. I hope that popcorn has margarine and not butter...
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 11:13 AM
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10. I LOVE animals.
They taste SOOOO good.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 11:23 AM
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13. The place you describe sound an awful lot like
North Korea. Not get me another bucket of the colonels recipe!
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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 11:55 AM
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23. MMMMmmmmm....Tasty Poison
Your hardcore attitude and post is duly noted.

Now...back to my burgers and fries.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 12:29 PM
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25. ...
Poe's Law applies. I'm truly baffled. This can be one thing or the other.
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Regret My New Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 02:09 PM
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37. lol....
. <3
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 02:11 PM
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38. I'll say this as a vegan: you're not helping. n/t
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Phil The Cat Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 04:11 PM
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51. I got a bit carried away, but still
I love the taste of meat! I still crave meat!

But in the process of awakening philosophically, I have come to realize how destructive and inhumane it is!

I'll try to keep from going over the top with vegan / vegetarian advocacy!

It's just hard to fight the haunting of all the animals that were slaughtered to fill my gut over the years!
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 11:12 AM
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9. What I really miss is Sunday brunches at the Claudia Sanders House as a kid.
Edited on Tue Aug-17-10 11:12 AM by Roland99
ommmmg...that was some good eatin'! :)

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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 11:33 AM
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14. Try finding out how they source their chickens sometime...
You might change your mind about eating there altogether.
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Still Blue in PDX Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 11:45 AM
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17. There's a KFC across the street from my work, and the smells wafting out of there are wonderful.
Doesn't tempt me in the slightest, though.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 09:07 PM
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54. Plenty of things smell good...
but I would be damned to eat it. LOL

Don't get me wrong, I eat chicken, I just don't care for the type that is less a chicken and more a science experiment.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 11:51 AM
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22. I would never eat at a KFC
The thought of it makes my stomach lurch.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 03:44 PM
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50. +1 and that shit isn't even CHEAP! nt
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 09:08 PM
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55. I had a buddy of mine that worked at one...
he told me things.

That was enough for me.
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Phil The Cat Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 04:19 PM
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52. K & R
Thank you!
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 11:41 AM
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15. I tried it once or twice and it isn't any good, it's dry and tasteless
Edited on Tue Aug-17-10 11:44 AM by doc03
Put some f----g BBQ sauce on it. It is like the McLean burger McDonalds put out a dry tasteless piice of crap and it went under. I buy Morningstar Farms burgers that are far better than the McLean was.
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KatyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 11:43 AM
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16. Why go to KFC when there's....
Popeyes! Jeebus, that's a serious no brainer.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 11:50 AM
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20. This. nt
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 12:49 PM
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33. El Pollo Loco kicks KFC's ass around the block AND
Has salad and bean rice cheese burritos for the vegetarians....I don't think there are any veg-friendly items at KFC.

I think the grilled chicken is to compete with El Pollo Loco, but they don't want to invest in actual GRILLS!
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LiberalPersona Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 09:12 PM
Response to Reply #16
56. I prefer Church's
personally
But Popeye's is better than KFC too
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 01:24 PM
Response to Reply #16
60. Ewww... I hate over-spiced fried chicken.
A little cajun spice is fine, but Popeye's tastes like Bobby Flay's spice rack fell in.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 11:48 AM
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18. I went to KFC for the first time in a couple of years recently.



I was in a bit of a hurry and KFC was nearby. There was a line at the drive-up so I went inside and ordered to go. I saw a three piece dinner on the menu board for $6.99 so I ordered that. The clerk asked me 'light or dark' and I told her no preference. When she ran it up she told me the total came to ten bucks and change. I had to ask her if that was correct. She looked at me like no one ever asked her such a thing before. Most places I go to include the beverage in the price of the meal deal but I guess not KFC. I will say they served it to me quickly. So I left there after paying over ten bucks for a greasy fast food lunch. I don't think I'll be returning to KFC in any big hurry.

:thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:


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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 11:50 AM
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19. a LOT of restaurants are separating drinks from meals nowadays
even in kids' meals. And they're charging upwards of $3 for 18 cents worth of soda syrup and carbonated water.

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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 11:51 AM
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21. The only thing worthwhile from KFC is the original recipe fried chicken.
It's a good recipe. Good enough to take a small restaurant and make a worldwide franchise out of it. That single recipe justifies the Colonel's success. But everything else is window dressing.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 11:59 AM
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24. I used to love their BBQ chicken
Its too bad they dont serve it anymore.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 12:39 PM
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27. Have to disagree with you there (in terms of chicken)
Love me some Extra Crispy
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 12:41 PM
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28. Folks going to KFC for chicken aren't interested in a "healthy" meal......
they want fried chicken skin on their chicken.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 12:44 PM
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30. Thank you!
Health conscience and KFC are two concepts that simply don't go together, no matter what the management does to try and change their image.

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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 12:45 PM
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31. Right?? Disgusting! n/t
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 12:56 PM
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34. People should be worried alot more than grilled v. fried when it comes to KFC
The factory farms where these chickens are exploited is the real issue.

But I fear I've said too much already...
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 01:05 PM
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35. If I want to eat healty I'll stay home and bake some chicken in the oven.
Really I can eat much healthier at home so "eating healthy" takes a lot of the fun out of eating out.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 01:54 PM
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36. Trying to be everything to everyone is not a good thing.
Edited on Tue Aug-17-10 01:54 PM by SoCalDem
KFC is "famous" for The Colonel's "secret recipe", and all the changing of the menu to be more "healthy" will not change that fact.

If the owners of KFC want to gain more market-share, trying to sell health-foods alongside their specialty, the new foods are not likely to succeed.

If people want grilled chicken they will probably go to a place where that entree is their specialty.

Not many people go to Chinese restaurants if they are craving a juicy hamburger.

Offering salads and fruit like hamburger places now do, is not that big of a deal since parents often outgrow McDonalds food (in more than one way), but the relentless advertising and ridiculously low prices will still attract families looking for a cheap meal, and parents may not want a burger.

As a person who has been around since before "fast-foods", I can tell you that many times as places stray away from what was their specialty, they often fail at the attempts because people like what they originally offered.



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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 02:39 PM
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40. Go to Boston Market if you don't want to eat fried chicken. That grilled stuff at KFC looks hideous.
Then again, I am not sure how many Boston Markets there are besides the East Coast.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 02:46 PM
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41. Customers would RUSH to buy grilled chicken at KFC if they
wrapped the grilled chicken in bacon and then deep fried it.

I'd make book on that.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 03:03 PM
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43. you forgot the most important part..
putting the chicken between two donuts & wrapping the entire thing in a slab of pizza:)
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 03:28 PM
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45. D'oh! You're right.
And the pizza should be some sort of "meat lovers" with pepperoni, sausage/linguica, etc.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 03:35 PM
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46. with extra cheese
:)
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fifthoffive Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 03:13 PM
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44. Greasy on the outside
Dry on the inside.

I think their grilled chicken is greasier than their fried chicken (with the skin removed). I never eat the outside of the fried chicken, so I thought I'd try the grilled. It seemed like they painted oil on the outside. Nasty.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 03:41 PM
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47. Original Recipe only for me, thanks.
Once a year, I eat it. That is all.

I'll second the El Pollo Loco post, though. Good chicken. Good sides. Healthy food.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 03:42 PM
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48. When I was doing Atkins, it was ok.
I absolutely love their Honey BBQ "wings".


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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 04:51 PM
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53. No Colonel for me...
Even though I love their biscuits, the chicken gives me really bad indigestion and farts that have been proven by the State of California to cause cancer.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 09:21 PM
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57. They need to get rid of fried chicken altogether, and change their name to KGC.
People will protest, generating free publicity. Then they can re-introduce fried chicken as "Classic KFC chicken" and also sell some grilled chicken as "New KGC chicken."
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BlackHoleSon Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 09:49 PM
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58. Recipe changed
I'm convinced that the recipe changed when the Colonel died. Kentucky Fried Chicken was the first fast food joint in town when I was a kid early 70's in Virginia. You would order and then wait about 15 minutes for your chicken to come out to you in the big bucket withe the cardboard top. The chicken itself was of better quality then, none of these Frankenchickens that are so common now. But the spices were the key to it all. I seem to remember a distinct peppery bit to it, mixed with the deep fried - true heaven. It would be great cold for 2-3 days afterward!
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 03:08 PM
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62. it was a horrible marketing strategy
People don't got to KFC to get healthy food...

A better idea would have been to spin-off a mostly grilled fast food eatery carrying nearly the same bradning.
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