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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 09:54 PM
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We are asking Muslims to be tolerant people and not to join up with jihadists. Shouldn't
we be tolerant of them too? Otherwise we are hypocrites.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 10:20 PM
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1. Lol. Muslims aren't Jihadists because we ask them not to be?
I thought Islam was a religion of peace? Now we know they aren't bombing us because we asked them not to.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 10:31 PM
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4. You know my point. We ask all sorts of people around the world to be peaceloving. And it doesn't
Edited on Mon Aug-16-10 10:35 PM by applegrove
always work though closer relations between America and ______ seem to help.
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gerenimox Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 12:17 AM
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8. "We ask all sorts of people around the world to be peaceloving"
Edited on Tue Aug-17-10 12:18 AM by gerenimox
yet we don`t hesitate to genocide a few millions of muslims.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 10:30 PM
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2. I don't think the Republicans really believe all their spin
Edited on Mon Aug-16-10 10:32 PM by eleny
They're just using this situation for political gain.

Sanity and reason have nothing to do with it. It's about regaining power.

edited for spelling
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Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 10:35 PM
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5. Yeah, they'll spin whichever contradictory ways they need to...
... to make political hay. The short media attention span certainly helps.

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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 10:40 PM
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7. The calliope tactic - just keep pumping the gas
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sohndrsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 10:31 PM
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3. I would love to ask any thinking person with a pulse:

How does labeling all Muslims (who are American citizens) as being so unwelcome that we protest a building that includes a place of worship....

...be viewed as helpful in thwarting those extremists who distort and misuse Islamic faith to explain their violent, horrific, murderous hatred.

Pretend the thing "Americans" (geez) are against is not Islam or a mosque, but - say - sports fans. Protests bloom everywhere because there have been events where sports fans are violent, cause riots, even murder... and those events result in a national mindset of demonizing all sports fans - including those who have never and would never harm a fly, cause any disruption for any reason and are valuable members of their communities and provide meaningful contributions to their town, state and this country as a result.

But for some reason they find themselves labeled as "bad", "dangerous", "inferior", "different", "scary". Unfortunately, such a categorization will likely be the very thing that makes some sports fans angry enough that they end up being violent themselves... even if its just one person - the accusation and negative label very likely (right or wrong) would cause the very behaviour being protested in some being acted out by others who otherwise would have never even thought of such a thing.

Anyone who is wrongfully labeled negatively - or lumped together with bad acts, groups or people without reason (religious beliefs that seem the same but are NOT is a prime example, as any other thing that insanely assumes "they're all alike") is going to be royally pissed - and rightly so.

Any of us who has somehow convinced ourselves (clearly without thinking it through adequately) that

ALL:

Muslims
Christians
Blacks/African Americans
Whites
Men
Women
Democrats
Republicans
Vegans
Gun Owners
Atheists
College Students
Smokers
Alcoholics
Pet Owners
Scientists
Nuns
Soldiers
Lawyers
Terminally Ill
Artists
Children
(and so on)

ARE or ARE NOT "______" (fill in the blank). No matter what is filled in, it is WRONG and unfair.
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Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 10:40 PM
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6. Intriguing analogy. n/t
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