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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 05:57 PM
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New health law may bring pricier premiums
Victoria Colliver, Chronicle Staff Writer

Monday, August 9, 2010


Employers and consumers sorting through their health insurance options may see a bump in their rates next year to account for the potential impact of some of the early elements of the federal health overhaul law, according to some health experts.

Jeff Sher, an independent health insurance agent and consultant in San Francisco, said he's anticipating employee coverage at mid-size companies to go up 13 percent to 15 percent. "Then we're supposed to tack on several percentage points for health reform," he said.

August is a key month for employers to start making decisions about their health benefits because most open-enrollment periods, during which employees select their health insurance plans, begin in the fall for coverage starting Jan. 1, 2011.

While most major pieces of the new health law don't go into effect until 2014, some reforms affecting health insurance carriers take effect this year.

These include provisions that require health plans to cover adult children until age 26, extend coverage to children with pre-existing conditions, end maximum lifetime spending limits and end the practice of retroactively canceling a member's coverage for any reason other than fraud.



Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/08/09/BAR91EPHDJ.DTL
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Barack2theFuture Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 05:58 PM
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1. and now we are *required* to buy more expensive products
from predatory criminals. Yippee!
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 05:59 PM
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2. Recommend
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 06:01 PM
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3. No one gets something for noting
and those of us who tried to get this across when the deliberation was going on, were told to STFU, because this would be great..even if it was not single-payer..

The emphasis is ALWAYS on the "payer" part.

Our "friends" at BigPharma/Medical Insurance,Inc will gladly OFFER us anything we want, BUT there is a price attached..

If it's offered, we cannot complain...It;s not THEIR fault we are broke and cannot afford it.

It's like car shopping.. Who wouldn't want a brand new Jaguar or a Chevy Volt or even a Prius.. The car dealer will OFFER these to you, but if all you can afford is a beat up 1994 Corolla, you won't be going home in that Jag...
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burnsei sensei Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 06:19 PM
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9. There is no comparison between
the sale of automobiles and the provision of necessary care for life and limb.
If health care is a commodity, then it's certainly not a right.
You have no right to thrive.
You have no right to live.
Your money contains all your rights concerning life and limb.
You, in yourself, have no worth. You are a thing. Your body, risks and benefits, has already been bought.
And your insurance is an attempt to buy your right to life and health back from those who stole them from you.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 06:21 PM
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12. That's the crux of the matter.
Do we really want to be a society that considers health care a commodity?

Really?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 09:03 PM
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15. "We" don't, but unfortunately our government DOES
:(

Until we have universal/single-payer, we will always be at the mercy (hah!) of so-called insurance companies.

They lobbied hard & bought enough legislators to make sure that we never have a fair chance...and yes they have made medicine on par with buying a car:(
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 06:02 PM
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4. Or shittier insurance.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 06:04 PM
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Many of us here on DU warned that this was going to happen.
:argh:
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 06:12 PM
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6. Totally predictable (and, predicted)
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 06:20 PM
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10. Yes, and were met with condescending, snarky, dismissive replies.
I'm sure the retractions and regret are forthcoming.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 09:18 PM
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18. Generally by those whose knowledge of health policy was limited to press releases and talking points
Next year will see a repeat of this one- and every dollar that's sucked up and wasted by the parasites is one less dollar to get Main street's economy moving again.

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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 06:04 PM
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5. 'Oh, don't worry, we'll fix it later.'
Edited on Mon Aug-09-10 06:04 PM by havocmom
I would like to take everyone who uttered that bs out to the wood shed. We got screwed by a DEM congress and a DEM POTUS and they are NOT fixing anything in our favor. WE have no representatives. The people we worked hard for, gave money to, voted for are not serving us, they are serving the corporations who continue to cause harm to the American people


edited for typo
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 06:22 PM
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13. Seriously, they really will fix it
trust them. They wouldn't lie. Hey look its almost election time. Vote and shut up.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 02:58 PM
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26. I'd like to echo your woodshed comment
How could so many people have been so naive?
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burnsei sensei Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 06:16 PM
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7. The corporations are cared for.
The people are betrayed.
That was the game all along.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 06:19 PM
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8. Yes, this was the plan all along.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 06:21 PM
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11. I suspected this was why my premiums jumped
so high this year. To pay for the parts of the health insurance reform that are kicking in. I wonder what I'll be paying by 2014?
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 06:38 PM
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14. B-b-b-b-b-ut we can put "Passed Health Care Reform" on the List O'Accomplishments!!!
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 09:04 PM
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16. If we put the Democrats in charge, they would end this Corporate Extortion!!
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My Bad.
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burnsei sensei Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 09:15 AM
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19. Corporate extortion is an excellent description
of the health care system, and much of the resource management of this country.
In no way is the public good considered in the matters of resources and people.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 09:12 PM
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17. ...up 13% to 15%. "Then we're supposed to tack on several percentage points for health reform"
Edited on Mon Aug-09-10 09:13 PM by depakid
No surprise to most of us who followed this sorry escapade- but likely a BIG surprise to the vast majority who hasn't.

And Democrats now own it.

Heck of a job.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 09:17 AM
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20. Nooo waaaay.
:eyes:
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 09:23 AM
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21. Were premiums going to be reduced this year without healthcare reform?
Oh my, no.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 09:32 AM
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22. That was my thought, hasn't health insurance premiums
gone up every year anyway? Now they have an excuse, blame it on the Democrats.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 09:40 AM
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23. What's the point of health insurance reform that doesn't address the spiraling costs?
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 09:43 AM
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24. Healthcare reform did address costs
Especially to those with pre-existing conditions, who have been the most vulnerable to being screwed over wholesale by insurance companies.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 03:01 PM
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27. Yes, it did "address" costs, it said...
"Costs, we aren't going to place any meaningful restrictions on you."
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 03:05 PM
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28. As a person with a pre-existing condition, if the premiums in 2014
are anything even remotely close to the pre-existing condition pool currently available, people will not be able to afford them . . . even with a subsidy. Heck, the average healthy person will not be able to afford them. We need single payer. Everybody gets their health access card - rich and poor alike - and it's paid for out of our common funds . . . just like trillion dollar wars.
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AlabamaLibrul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 09:45 AM
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25. It was "cost control" after the "right to HC" idea was killed. Blogga Please. n/t
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