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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 08:56 AM
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"Muslim New Yorkers are every bit as innocent of the crimes of 9/11 as are all other New Yorkers."
Edited on Tue Aug-03-10 09:28 AM by kpete
It's time to get this right
by Laurence Lewis

Mon Aug 02, 2010 at 07:30:05 PM PDT

Perhaps it doesn't matter to bigots like Sarah Palin and Newt Gingrich, and it should matter to the no longer credible Anti-Defamation League, but the victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks included innocent Muslims, some of whom were killed in the attacks. But when considering the pain and suffering of those who survived 9/11, or who were traumatized by it, it's worth considering that there are more than half a million Muslims living in New York City. They saw what other New Yorkers saw. They smelled what other New Yorkers smelled. They experienced the same devastating horror and sorrow. They were New Yorkers like any other New Yorkers. They were no more responsible for the attacks than were any other New Yorkers.

more:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/8/2/889346/-Its-time-to-get-this-right


updated to add: Thanks DUers/Mods for cleaning up my thread, kp
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 09:00 AM
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1. k&r
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 09:10 AM
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3. The overgeneralization of blaming all Muslim New Yorkers and even Muslims en masse
Edited on Tue Aug-03-10 09:11 AM by no_hypocrisy
is intolerable. My brother practices Islam and to extend the blame of 9-11 to him is ridiculous. He grieves for the victims and is saddened by the words and actions of the fundamentalists of his religion. His Islam is peace, love, and hope for a better world. While I'm not converting to join him, I strongly respect his faith and would defend him against anyone, including family.
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miscsoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 09:12 AM
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4. I'm surprised that the ADL would sink so low
as to issue such a statement. Maybe I'm naive and have been taken in by their own propaganda, but despite their obvious Jewish chauvinism I thought they retained a sufficient committment to liberal values to shy away from at least overt promotion of religious discrimination.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 09:25 AM
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5. I've only known the ADL under its current leadership
and he's nothing to write home about. When a temple was vandalized and robbed in Caracas, Foxman immediately started defaming Chavez all over the world as an anti-Semite. And of course it turned out to be an inside job that the government had nothing, nada, to do with.
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 09:34 AM
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7. I lost a lot of respect for the ADL after they actually opposed a hate crimes bill for the homeless
This was after a trio of punks here in Florida beat to death a homeless man just because he was homeless.

The Anti-Defamation League actually sent a representative to Tallahassee to vocally oppose the measure (which I believe passed in the end) because they thought it would "dilute" hate crimes. In other words, because it didn't deal with bigotry directed towards their own interests, it doesn't matter.

The story:

http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/04/21/1589541/homeless-could-be-added-to-floridas.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+StatelineorgRss-CrimeCourts+(Stateline.org+RSS+-+Crime+%26+Courts)

"During a committee hearing on the bill, the Anti-Defamation League spoke against the bill, arguing that adding more categories to the hate crimes law would dilute its effect. But lawmakers were swayed by arguments in favor of protecting the homeless."

Jeez, you think they'd never have heard of Pastor Martin Niemöller's poem, "First they came..."


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miscsoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 09:42 AM
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8. there was also the armenian genocide
they fired some members who quite reasonably thought an organisation ostensibly devoted to tolerance should acknowledge this historical atrocity. the leadership didn't want to annoy the turks. i don't know if they've started talking about it now that israeli-turkish relations are strained.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 09:29 AM
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6. I hope Giuliani is not on that list
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 09:54 AM
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9. kick and recommend!!
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 10:30 AM
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10. The right are treating Muslims like the Germans (Nazis) treated the Jews were in WW2
same kind of thing. The right tortured Muslims in the middle east and at Gitmo. YOu can imagine Palin asking them to be rounded up into camps.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 11:19 AM
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11. K & R
:thumbsup:
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 11:08 PM
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12. Most of the people offended by the idea of a mosque near the site
would never even wish to visit NYC to begin with.
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