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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 02:17 PM Original message |
Poll question: Are ethics charges against Rangel & Waters purge of progressives? |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
1. We are slowly being taken over. |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
2. If they worked at the republican altar, (Wall Street) we would be |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
3. The longer a pol stays in office the more entitled they feel |
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Andy823 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 02:42 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. I totally agree! |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 04:30 PM Response to Reply #3 |
25. term limits empower lobbyists & staffers |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 10:30 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Its is indeed a trade off, but at this point I think we should try term limits |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 01:05 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. you're kidding, right? California's legislature is paralyzed by the Republican minority |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 02:01 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. The paralysis has nothing to do with term limits, the repukes term out just as fast |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 01:11 AM Response to Reply #31 |
38. term limits encourage corruption by making pols audition for their after elected office job |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 03:24 AM Response to Reply #31 |
44. wotta surprise, the progressive professor endorsing term limits |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 11:33 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Its been a long time coming to that point. We as a race or people can not seem to avoid the |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 03:55 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. not that long since the "contract on america," prof. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 10:37 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. The term limits argument has raged well before then and goes back to colonial times in the US |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 03:23 AM Response to Reply #25 |
43. +100 |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
4. I don't have enough info yet. But it's hard to believe |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
5. I see your "purge" and raise you a "racially motivated" |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 02:41 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I'm so behind. So, who is driving this stuff? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
8. For folks looking for info (like me) here's a WaHo article that might be helpful: |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 02:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. That is an improper defense in a court of law. However in the court of public opinion it often works |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 02:59 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Charlie is not going to roll over and I'm glad he's not. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 03:36 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. I hope he has better to fight with than what has been proffered to date |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 03:51 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. He doesn't seem to have violated any franking rules. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 03:21 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. not entirely |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 03:35 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. That would be a racial bias defense, not one of "others are doing it too" |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
11. And here's a WaHo article about Maxine's case: |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
12. Perhaps these are cases of politicians gone awry, thinking they are |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 03:08 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Or perhaps these are smears against liberal black representatives. n/t |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. I think they are "smears" only if they are concocted. nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 03:18 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. My understainding of Maxine's case is that she steered federal funds |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 02:25 AM Response to Reply #15 |
41. There's a difference between what you and I might call unethical and how the rules are written |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 03:16 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Too bad that their rules don't cover having your spouse or other |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 03:53 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. It goes far deeper than that |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 04:30 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Yes, I know and have said that if Charlie Rangel had left |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 04:47 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Certainly from an overall fairness standpoint, there is no case to be made |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 05:21 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Can't disagree with anything you said. He is a survivor though |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 10:50 AM Response to Reply #14 |
55. They can be "smears" if they are SOP |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
16. I don't know enough to vote, BUT |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 03:29 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. I generally trust CREW. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
19. I don't usually reply to DU Polls but this one is worth the reply... |
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crazyjoe (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
23. do you think black progessives should be allowed to break |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 04:32 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Excuse me. Please link to the finding that shows Rangel broke the law. |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 06:00 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Use search engine 'rangel tax evasion' - there are a lot of links, here's one |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 10:59 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. That's an opinion piece that gives opinions and quotes some |
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crazyjoe (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 07:48 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Obamanaut beat me to it. Anything to say now EFerrar? i didn't think so. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 11:01 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. There is no finding. But thanks anyway. n/t |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 10:28 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. These are house ethics charges, not Fed/State/Local criminal or civil issues |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 11:02 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Given the way Congress does business |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 11:36 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Its because of the way Congress does business that this is a slam dunk |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 01:07 AM Response to Reply #23 |
37. don't you think it's odd that corporatists aren't going after their own if they really wanted to |
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backwoodsbob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
24. I voted other |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
29. Elections in 3 months. Campaign promises should be kept. |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 01:27 AM Response to Original message |
39. Corporate Dems and all Republicans are the same |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
50. Is Nancy Pelosi DLC now too? |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
54. That was what I first thought right after |
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