Church plans Quran-burning event

[panzerfaust]

Source: CNN

(CNN) -- In protest of what it calls a religion "of the devil," a nondenominational church in Gainesville, Florida, plans to host an "International Burn a Quran Day" on the ninth anniversary of the September 11, 2001, attacks.

The Dove World Outreach Center says it is hosting the event to remember 9/11 victims and take a stand against Islam. With promotions on its website and Facebook page, it invites Christians to burn the Muslim holy book at the church from 6 p.m. to 9 p.m.

"We believe that Islam is of the devil, that it's causing billions of people to go to hell, it is a deceptive religion, it is a violent religion and that is proven many, many times," Pastor Terry Jones told CNN's Rick Sanchez earlier this week.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/07/29/florida.burn.quran.day/index.html?hpt=C2

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This goes interestingly with another story from the Guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2010/jul/30/anne-rice-quits-being-christian">Anne Rice 'quits being a Christian':

"In the name of Christ, I refuse to be anti-gay. I refuse to be anti-feminist. I refuse to be anti-artificial birth control. I refuse to be anti-Democrat. I refuse to be anti-secular humanism. I refuse to be anti-science. I refuse to be anti-life. In the name of Christ, I quit Christianity and being Christian. Amen,...

...No wonder people despise us, Christians, and think we are an ignorant and violent lot. I don't blame them. This kind of thing makes me weep. Maybe commitment to Christ means not being a Christian," she said.

[truthisfreedom]

1. Back to witch-burning.

"People of peace" versus "people of peace." Burn, baby, burn.

[era veteran]

2. Religious fundamentalism sucks, That is ALL religious

fundamentalism sucks. Pull their tax free status.

[Turborama]

3. What 1st jumped to mind was that they are doing their utmost to provoke a terrorist attack

An attack that would doubtlessly be blamed on President Obama for "not keeping the country safe, blargle blargle, whoop whoop".

[miscsoc]

59. Maybe they want to be martyred or something

[Ken Burch]

4. There WILL be a counter-demonstration, won't there?

n/t.

[miscsoc]

60. Yup, and there will be a few noisy islamic extremists at it

Who will get all the attention and camera time. There will be more people who are just protesting the bigotry, but who wants to film them?

[Mac1949]

5. How ironic that it's called a "World Outreach Center".

:crazy:

[Kolesar]

16. "Dove", the symbol of peace ... eom

[Mopar151]

6. A new low in thinking and reason

we could call it "Drunk with Stupid?".....

[superconnected]

7. Somehow I bet they'ed be pissed if Islamics burned the Bible.

[freebrew]

43. My thoughts exactly.

Although the muslems I know would never stoop to such low behaviour.

Maybe these morans would be happier in another world.

I hear Bikini Island has some room...

[No Elephants]

8. Oh, that'll work. I can just picture Muslims lining up to be led to Jesus.

[Kolesar]

15. ^best response on this thread

I would LOL if it was not so tragic.

[Mariana]

47. That's not what this is for.

Tuborama has it right, I think, they want to provoke a terrorist attack. These assholes are trying to bring on the Apocalypse.

[droidamus2]

9. What's next the new crusades? Idiots!!! nt

[OmahaBlueDog]

36. What do you mean "next"?

In the mind of many fundies, 9-11 was the start of a war against Islam and, more importantly, the start of the fulfillment of the prophecy from the book of Revelation. Islam must be defeated so that the mosque on the third temple site can be torn down; so the third temple can be built; so Jesus can return; so the believers leave earth in the Rapture; and the rest of us all get the swim in the lake of fire that we deserve. That's why the fundies love the Middle East wars so much.

I've seen Freepers refer to Bush as a "king" (in the biblical sense). Someone here had a great post a couple of days ago that cited stats the other day showing just under half of self professed Christians believe the earth is < 10,000 years old. I'm surprised they're not also burning "Origin of Species" -- or, for that matter, "Inherit The Wind."

Where I'm currently confused is who is the anti-Christ at this point; for many years, I was told it was Bill Clinton, but now I guess it's Barack Obama. Hillary, maybe? Barney Frank? Nancy Pelosi? Bono? Angie Jolie? Chloe Kardashian? The possibilities are endless....

[superconnected]

66. I've seen freepers say this crap too, but they're crazy and 911 was to get the

military industrial complex going to create war contracts. Haliburton being one of the biggest recipient of the war funds and dick Cheney being their former CEO.

[Turbineguy]

10. Violation of

Clean Air Act?

[ejpoeta]

11. imagine how they would react if we had a bible burning. they'd friggin go ballistic.

they are no christians.

[AlbertCat]

24. they are no christians.

Sure they are! Christians have been doing this kind of thing for centuries.

[ejpoeta]

33. there are "Christians" and then there are christians.... charletons who go around

telling everyone how christian they are. they are two different groups. real Christians ACT like it and don't have to tell everyone what they are because they actually act like it. see the difference. you don't hear about the real ones because they don't make good tv.

[msanthrope]

44. The No True Scotsman claim really doesn't hold water. n/t

[Moonwalk]

40. Islamics follow the Bible, so they wouldn't burn it...but there's always crosses.

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[Cirque du So-What]

13. What is the attraction of these 'nondenominational' churches anyway?

Are humans so susceptible to charismatic figures that they willingly check their brains at the church doors and defer to the 'wisdom' of a certifiable nutjob? That's a rhetorical question, BTW; history is rife with examples that prove this statement.

[AlbertCat]

25. What is the attraction of these 'nondenominational' churches anyway?

What is the attraction of churches anyway?

[jmowreader]

54. Nondenominational means...

they're so religiously insane they've been kicked out of every religious body there is.

When your church is such a bunch of fucking whackjobs the Church of God won't give you a charter, you should know something's wrong.

[Mariana]

48. What makes you think they check their brains?

The congregation are in control here. They fill the pews and the collection plates. This "pastor" is just telling them exactly what they already believe. That's his job, to say what they want him to say, to tell them they're right (about God and everything else) and validate and reinforce their idiotic beliefs. If he didn't do that, they'd toss his ass out and hire someone that would.

[madrchsod]

14. how many hundreds of millions has been murdered in christ`s name

[Historic NY]

17. Its starts with Korans and next thing its Bibles & law books.

[bertman]

41. That about sums it up for me too, Historic NY. Which books are next?

Rec.

[McCamy Taylor]

18. Burn the devil, become the devil. Ain't dualism great?

[liberal N proud]

19. Do unto others?

Nothing like pissing off those that already don't like you.

[DFW]

20. Tiny grammatical mistake

If this is what religion is to them, then the issue is not "religion of the devil," but "religion IS the devil."

Their religion is the devil, anyway. They'd be burning people at the stake in their god's name if they could.

[tomg]

21. Want to burn a book ?

How about "The Pet Goat"? ( with apologies to authors Siegfried Engelmann and Elaine C. Bruner since no book should burned). And great for Anne Rice.

[AlbertCat]

28. And great for Anne Rice.

I'd be more impressed if she rejected religion altogether. I mean, this is standard practice for just about all religions, not just Christianity. Maybe Buddhism or Jainism is different..... but I bet you could find similar instances in their long pasts.

[tanyev]

22. Ah, the ancient Christian tradition of book burning.

I'm still horrified that they torched the library of Alexandria.

[daleo]

55. And murdered Hypatia. n/t

[tanyev]

65. I just read about a movie starring Rachel Weisz as Hypatia.

Gotta Netflix it.

http://movies.nytimes.com/2010/05/28/movies/28agora.html

[daleo]

72. It sounds good

Those were dark times and she was an extraordinary person, from the reading that I have done.

[mwooldri]

23. I wonder if the pastor of that church has read the Koran.

Might as well pile on the Bibles as kindling to burn all those Korans with... cos there's a fair chunk of Jewish and Christian scripture in the Koran.

A "radical Iman" could equally say the same thing that Pastor is saying about Christianity, or Judaism.

Regrettably these days I am finding myself in the same boat as Anne Rice. The Anglican tradition (esp Church of England) is the best fit but alas the Episcopal Church of the USA doesn't seem to follow in step with the CofE. I can understand where Anne is coming from - in that we certainly believe in Christ, but that His church has gone astray from His message and completely distorting what Christ stands for. Similar thing can be said about Islam: the prophet Muhammed stood for particular things, but his followers have distorted his message too.

[Frisbee]

27. I wonder if the pastor of that church has read the Bible. n/t

[Joe Bacon]

34. I bet the pastor gets off on the dirty parts!

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/sex/long.htm

[Manifestor_of_Light]

51. All the Abrahamic religions are superstitious and violent. Big deal.

The followers of Mohammed have NOT distorted his message. Neither have the followers of Jesus. They both said lots of hateful things like "infidels must be killed" in the case of Mohammed.

In the case of Jesus, "I come not in peace but with a sword..." etc. etc. etc. "Most people will go to hell and be cast into the lake of unquenchable fire" etc. It goes on and on and is totally psychotic, ratifying all the psychotic stuff in the O.T.

[ejbr]

26. I'm a Christian...

what a bunch of assholes.

[AspenRose]

46. I mentioned the Anne Rice thing to some of my other christian friends

We ALL understood JUST how she felt, and don't really blame her. We also happen to be of a liberal bent politically. Some of them have gone so far to not call themselves "christian" anymore, but "christ-follower" or "christ-seeker" so as not to be affiliated with the crazies.

[NOLALady]

29. A step back into the

dark ages.

[MilesColtrane]

30. WTWJT

What Tome Would Jesus Torch?

[Aslanspal]

31. Could you please use Leviticus to keep it hot

Yeah ripe out the old Testament while your at it and throw it on the flames ...I have heard Leviticus a 1000 more times than I have ever heard a Beatitude.

A pox on both their houses of hard religion....but book burning?

[Chipper Chat]

32. Wonder if it's the same "pastor" ?

[COLGATE4]

35. Heinrich Heine said it more than a hundred years ago

Where books are being burned soon thereafter there will be people being burned

[Kurska]

37. It is protected speech, even if it is a massively dick move. n/t

[Poll_Blind]

38. Every one of 'em, a Mrs. Carmody from The Mist.

Expiation!

PB

[Moonwalk]

39. To burn a Quran one has to buy a Quran. Sales will go up...

Do they know that they're funding whoever publishes those Qurans? Burning Bibles is easier. You can steal 'em from hotels or from someone's house.

[Solly Mack]

42. "Dove World Outreach"

Snort

[SoapBox]

45. New Bumper Sticker for the GOBPers/TeaTerrorBaggers! "We Burn BOOKS!"

...don't need no stinking edumacating with them damned BOOKS!

And burn the witches too...and them Lib types...oh ya, and the homos.

This will all work out very nicely when Crazy Shelly Bachmann, holds her endless
Inquisition Trials in the House...them Dem types will be tried, verdict rendered (already
know that the verdict will be guilty), and then send them to the Gallows or Guillotine
which will be right there on the floor of the House.

...and I'm think'n that it almost could happen if these Terrorists get control in D.C.

Creepy.

[alp227]

49. Pssh...just furthers my belief that religion sucks

You've got all these inter-denominational and inter-faith conflicts to the level of "who the bleep cares". You've got the Jewish Anti-Defamation League opposing the proposed Islamic cultural center near Ground Zero and opposition to building mosques in Temecula, Calif. and Tennessee. Seriously, all this "I'm holier than thou" nonsense is just annoying.

[AsahinaKimi]

50. This is

Right wing Christian ethics at its best.. They will probably be shouting Hooray and smiling for the Fox News cameras who will cover it.

ばかやろう!

[TheKentuckian]

52. The Dark Age: Don't call it a come back. It was just a hiatus

[classysassy]

53. There is too much hate in the world

" What the world need now is love,love for everyone" love that song,too bad all Christians don't feel that way.

[Historic NY]

56. I hate Gainesville NAZI's isn't it the home of serial killers too.

[MadMaddie]

64. Yes!

[Manifestor_of_Light]

57. Heinrich Heine is red-lining the marble tachometer.

"Where first they burn books, eventually they burn people".

He wrote that as lines, said by a character in one of his plays who was burning a Koran, 110 years before the Nazis burned books.

[spanone]

58. i declare their god a fraud if they can't tolerate other religions

[treestar]

61. Ironic name for their church

They seem to be hoping for war or fighting more than outreach.

[Fuzz]

62. Fuck, I hate religion.

[Fuzz]

63. Reverse the religions. Imagine the uproar.

Fuck I hate religion.

[RagAss]

67. I hope this isn't broadcast world wide.

[northernlights]

68. maybe somebody should hold a bible burning party

right next door.

Arseholes.

[upi402]

69. Wait for winter

We'll need to keep warm somehow

[Manifestor_of_Light]

70. Oh, the road they're going down!!!

http://fcit.coedu.usf.edu/holocaust/gallery/01622.htm

Heine predicted it all so many years before, as part of the German national character!! He must have been such a visionary.

"German thunder ...rumbles along ponderously. Yet it will come and when you hear such a crashing as has never before been heard, in the world's history then you will know that the German thunderbolt has fallen at last. At that uproar eagles in the air will drop dead, and the lions in the remotest deserts of African will hide in their royal dens. A play will be performed in Germany which will make the French Revolution look like an innocent idyll."


Written in 1834, NOT 1934!!!

[Dorian Gray]

71. Nice.