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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 03:36 PM
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no, it's not the onion....Senate Votes to Double Fines, Jail Time for Pot Brownies
Edited on Fri Jul-30-10 03:56 PM by spanone
what a fucked up nation we live in...that's right the SENATE....of the UNITED STATES....a UNANIMOUS VOTE....BIPARTISAN...FINALLY



Last night the United States Senate voted to double the penalties for the nation’s newest existential threat: brownies made with marijuana!

The Senate unanimously passed Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)’s “Saving Kids from Dangerous Drugs Act of 2009″ (S. 258) that targets pot brownies and other marijuana edibles preferred by some medical marijuana patients. The bill next moves to the House; if it passes that chamber, anyone making pot brownies or similar products could be subject to double the fines and jail time for regular marijuana.

This bill’s passage marks a step backwards for Congress, which this week also passed the Fair Sentencing Act that reduced the sentencing disparities between cocaine and crack from 100:1 to 18:1. Now we have a new disparity: pot brownies and other marijuana edibles are now treated as something twice as bad as just distributing marijuana.


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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 03:39 PM
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1. Does this apply to peeps w pot license??? Its not fair to those who do not smoke but ingest for pain
relief
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 03:41 PM
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2. you'll have to ask our democratic congress. i'm at a loss.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 03:50 PM
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6. Why would a state license affect federal law?
My *guess* is probably not. I bet even VA patients, whose are told they are no longer penalized by the VA for cannabis, will be subject to this
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BakedAtAMileHigh Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 05:05 PM
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31. it certainly might affect MMJ patients!
Federal law is still clear no matter what happens with the states. All it will take is for Obama or his replacement to repeal the Holder Memo and every caregiver, dispensary, medical marijuana center and patient who chooses to make safe, effective medicine by cooking cannabis into food could be attacked under this law.

We simply cannot allow this to pass the House.
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 03:42 PM
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3. This is why it's irrelevant if California legalizes pot sales this November.
Congress will continue to push for more and tighter, and kookier regulation of what is essentially a harmless substance. States may decriminalize, but the DEA will continue to enforce. And woe betide anyone who applies for a federal job and admits to marijuana use!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 03:45 PM
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4. it's big money
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 03:47 PM
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5. Yep. Corporate-run prisons.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 03:51 PM
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7. Then if they get popped for pot brownies, they should take the federal government to court
for violating the VIII Amendment.

"Excessive bail should not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 03:30 PM
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45. It will be California's illegal immigrant law. The feds will fight it in court.
If legalization passes in November, of course.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 03:51 PM
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8. damn you nader!!!1
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 03:52 PM
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9. This is so insane I'd love to be able to haul Feinstein into
a court to find out just what provoked her into submitting it.

This is the stupidest thing ever.

Instead of wigging out over loaded brownies, just legalize it, already.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 03:53 PM
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10. We just need a few more Dems and it'll all be different, dontcha know?
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:32 PM
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23. 60! 60! 60! 60! 60!
That must be the explanation for this crap: We just couldn't do a damned thing to stop Di-Fi without 60 progressive senators.

:banghead:
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snake in the grass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 01:48 AM
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42. These fuckers could have 90 seats in the Senate...
...and they'd still be like the Keystone Cops. Almost every single one of them is worthless.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 03:54 PM
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11. so out of touch with reality. When will we ever rid ourselves of these idiots.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 03:54 PM
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12. i've known cancer patients who've preferred brownies over smoking. this is mean.
Edited on Fri Jul-30-10 03:57 PM by spanone
why the fuck should they get twice the penalty? this is so absurd.

if only eli lilly held the patent.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:02 PM
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16. This is the ENTIRE problem; the wrong people are making money on pot -
If it were "owned" by the Pharma companies, it would have been legal...and, IMO, it won't ever be legalized because the cops and politicians and banks are making too much money in bribes and money laundering from the BIG TIME importers and growers to want to lose it...only the little guys get busted, ever since the 1960's.


mark
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 03:55 PM
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13. Let's double the jail sentence of rapists who drive white vans
As long as we're rubber-stamping the pure insanity.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:00 PM
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14. Diane Feinstein is a COWARD to hide behind children in passing this nonsense
kids don't eat pot brownies - you know who eats pot brownies - AIDS patients, CANCER patients. Damnit this proves we MUST legalize marijuana and end this insanity!
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:15 PM
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19. No, she's a politician
Rule Number One in politics: there is no law so tyrannical you can't get it passed by putting the words "Save Our Children From" in the title of it.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:58 PM
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30. Not to mention the very worst sort of elitist and a thief to boot.
Yet, she is all but certain to be re-elected.

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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:01 PM
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15. We need to require drug tests for the Senate, they're on something fugly. nt
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:04 PM
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17. Taking pot shots at good times.
And after having eliminated the stupid distinction in sentencing for crack vs. cocaine, I guess the Senate just had to right the balance by doing something stupid.

;-)
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jtuck004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:14 PM
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18. 15 million unemployed and we pay these folks $170,000/yr to do...THIS? n/t
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:21 PM
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20. This fucking
Senate bugs the crap out of me. People w/ no jobs and they're worried about pot brownies. :wtf:

Legalize all the drugs, tax them, and maybe get a few new jobs while we're at it. No more turf wars over drugs. Police will get to concentrate on violent crimes instead of policing the war on drugs.

And coming from Di-Fi, the former mayor of San Francisco. Why doesn't she just become a Repugnant and get it over with.

:mad: :puke: :mad: :puke: :mad: :puke: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 05:08 PM
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32. Because when Republicans run as dems... The entire D machine works to elect them
Even against actual Democrats.
Running as a democrat is a cushy way for Republicans to get a Democratic President to endorse them so that they can fight against Democratic principles with the power of an elected office.

These types of Republicans in (D)rag are just cashing in on the gift to them that is the DLC infiltration machine.

You can't blame her for our Leaderships stupidity.

If it were smarter to run as the Republican she is, she would.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:46 PM
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36. +1,000 ^
Voters watch TV news and are easy to fool
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 07:20 PM
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40. I guess it's all just one happy party. nt
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:21 PM
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21. I've been saying for a long time now that the drug war is the most bipartisan of policies..
I think this pretty well proves my point.

We definitely need more Democrats in the Senate, eh?

Oh, wait.. Every single Dem in the Senate voted for this stupidity.

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:37 PM
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24. yep.....U N A N I M O U S......it makes me sick
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:24 PM
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22. Primary Di-Fi
But why bother? Hawks like her seem to fit right in with the New, Improved, Pro-War Democratic party.

:argh:
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:46 PM
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25. Ugh..cannot wait to vote her out next time around.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:47 PM
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26. What about cookies, are they okay? nt
doiiiii oooiii ng
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Ross K Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:49 PM
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27. Has the Senate ever really gotten into the contemplation of their HANDS, man?
:rofl:
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:53 PM
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28. please say that you're being funny ( ha ha ) ?
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:56 PM
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29. Feinstein proposed it so it has to a terrible idea.
Why you guys keep sending her back defies sanity.

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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 05:10 PM
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33. Who will protect them from the US Senate's STUPIDITY?
:nuke:

What fucking, clueless idiots.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:43 PM
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34. Yup...stuuupid and clueless
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:45 PM
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35. Senate must've sample the damn brownies
:hurts:
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 07:04 PM
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37. Senators recieve $170,000 for their 'work'.
That's alot of money for such little meaningful work.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 07:06 PM
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38. Idiotic. So sick people are to "smoke" their medicine rather than take it orally?
This is politicians acting like politicians.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 07:09 PM
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39. I weep for our "democracy".
Pathetic.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 07:23 PM
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41. As if we needed more proof that Washington is completly out of touch.
Ugh.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 05:55 AM
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43. While war crimes go unpunished. n/t
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 03:16 PM
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44. I LUV ME MY DEMOCRATIC PARTY!!@%$$%@@@!!!
I AM SO SOLIDARITY ALL OVER THEM WITH MY LUV!!!@$!!!!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 04:09 PM
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46. they are making it a challenge, i must admit
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 04:26 PM
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47. Once again, FDL totally misrepresents the facts.
From the portion of the bill quoted in FDL's article (emphasis added):

(1) UNLAWFUL ACTS- Except as authorized under this title, including paragraph (3), it shall be unlawful for any person at least 18 years of age to knowingly or intentionally manufacture or create, with intent to manufacture, create, distribute, or dispense, a controlled substance listed in schedule I or II that is–

‘(A) combined with a candy product;

(B) marketed or packaged to appear similar to a candy product; and

‘(C) modified by flavoring or coloring the controlled substance with the intent to distribute, dispense, or sell the controlled substance to a person under 18 years of age.


I emphasized the "and" because that means the first 2 sections are not prosecutable unless the 3rd part is proven. The 3rd deals with "intent" and specifically states "under 18 years of age". That renders FDL's argument as patently false.
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