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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 08:22 AM
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If YOU were in the House, how would YOU vote in today's $33B Afghan War funding?
The question simple. It is "yes", "no", or "present".

Explanations for votes, of course, can be considerably more involved.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 08:23 AM
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1. No fucking way.
You can take that as a 'no'.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 08:24 AM
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2. NO
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 08:25 AM
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3. Big no from me! /nt
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 08:26 AM
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4. I would vote against additional funding of this phony war!
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 08:32 AM
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5. No
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 08:32 AM
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6. The big "N."
:thumbsdown:
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prairierose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 08:32 AM
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7. NO............
It is past time for this disaster to end. Leave now before it get worse and destroys the army as that country has destroyed every army before ours.

It is and has been all about enriching war profiteers and not about security or any other "noble cause".
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 08:36 AM
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8. No.
The High Church of Redemptive Violence can go elsewhere looking for acolytes.
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Prism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 08:39 AM
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9. Nope. n/t
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 08:39 AM
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10. No.
40 years of involvement in Afghanistan is probably enough. If the day hasn't been carried in that amount of time, it appears to be more a stituation of throwing good money after bad.
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 08:42 AM
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11. Hell No. We won't go!
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 08:46 AM
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12. No.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 08:46 AM
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13. not only no but HELL NO!!
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 08:58 AM
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14. No.
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 08:59 AM
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15. No..war is unnecessary and uncivilized..nt
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 09:01 AM
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16. I would vote NO. But that's just me.
A DU profile in courage.

--imm
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deminwi Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 09:02 AM
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17. Absolutely not!!!
I would vote no. I wish we would bring a close to both wars and bring our people back home.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 09:05 AM
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18. NO! and it's simply stunning on this website that people went from
anti-war under Bush to pro-war under Obama.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 09:08 AM
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19. No
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bluethruandthru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 09:10 AM
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20. NO!!! n/t
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 09:10 AM
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21. No. nt
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 09:13 AM
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22. I would only vote for enough money to bring the troops home. n/t
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 09:16 AM
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23. Yes. Get the job done. This is where the focus should have been all along.
There are some seriously bad guys that need to be eliminated and the US/Coalition Forces need whatever back-up they need to get the job done.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 09:25 AM
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24. I actually agree with that.
I just don't think it is possible to do any good anymore, or at least to do more good than harm.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 09:32 AM
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27. Let's talk about that. You call them "bad guys". I assume you see it as I do, a rather small but . .
. . . deeply committed coterie of true believers. What good does a standing army do against a group like that? Might it not be better to do some good police and intelligence work and get them that way? What advantage does an army have over a concentrated surgical mission?

That question is not rhetorical. I hope we can have a discussion about it.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 10:38 AM
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41. Good question. Can't the funding be used for both though?
I think that is sort of the overall plan isn't it? Have our guys train their guys how to do the job whilst at the same timne keep looking for the bad guys.

There is no "win" here, but "Lose" is definitely on the table if we simply up sticks and walk out..
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 11:51 AM
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45. That theory would hold water were it not for the sheer numbers
How many seriously dangerous AQ are there?

10?

100?

1000?

10000?

How many? Probably in the 1000 range, but I don't know. The rest that make up the larger organization are, as in almost any such organization, not committed true believers and will fade away at the end.

So that leaves a very few. Our agents can use good police tactics to bring them down surgically.

The last thing we need is one and a half hundred thousand heavy boots under heavily armed and armored troops pounding *their* ground.

The numbers are one point (of several) that belies the need for an invading/occupying army.

Now, if one were using AG as a ruse to protect some other interests, then the more boots the better.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 12:13 PM
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51. Let me hop into my time machine and go back to late 2001 so I can agree with you.
Now? Not so much.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 09:27 AM
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25. No. We lost. Get out. Get over it.
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PADemD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 09:28 AM
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26. NO
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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 09:32 AM
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28. No - War is bleeding the treasury dry.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 09:40 AM
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29. No! Isn't that about the same as the unemployment extension
cost? Does that mean this has to be paid for?
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 09:42 AM
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30. NO!
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 09:44 AM
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31. I would vote "yes", then begin referring to myself as a "progressive"
whenever possible. Then I could say (with a straight face), "See? Progressives (like me!) support wars of aggression all the time."
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 09:53 AM
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34. No!
Now just stop that! lol


and NO to the Bush/Obama war.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 09:44 AM
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32. Let me see if I can do this right...
NO!
Do I get the Ted Stevens award for being emphatic??
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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 09:50 AM
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33. No!
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 09:55 AM
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35. NO!!!
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Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 09:58 AM
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36. No!
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 09:59 AM
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37. no n/t
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 10:20 AM
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38. No, I do not want to be complicit in war crimes.
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 10:23 AM
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39. No
and may the noes have it
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 10:32 AM
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40. nay
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 10:41 AM
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42. bleed it dry
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 10:42 AM
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43. No. nt
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 10:42 AM
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44. FUCK NO.
The war has to be declared a loss, and I'm still wondering why the hell we're over there.

Both were countries with oil/oil pipelines. If those oil companies want their shit, hire mercenaries, not the US Government.

Therefore, the taxpayers of the United States would like to bill the entire defense budget to the private companies who profiteered. It's called windfall profit tax, set at 99.99%.

They can keep the penny.

Hawkeye-X
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 11:52 AM
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46. thumbs down
Edited on Tue Jul-27-10 11:52 AM by AngryAmish
Bring them home. Who gives a shit?
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 11:55 AM
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47.  NO!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 11:55 AM
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48. Rep. Bluebear of New Hampshire votes nay.
Edited on Tue Jul-27-10 11:55 AM by Bluebear
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 12:00 PM
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49. No!
I cannot in good conscience look people in the eye, complain we don't have money to fix our unemployment problem, our health care problem, our infrastructure problems etc and then turn around and say we ought to fund this immoral war.
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 12:03 PM
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50. Yes! My corporate ma$$$ter$$$ would love me more & if it looked like I might lose my seat,
Edited on Tue Jul-27-10 12:09 PM by Karmadillo
I'd chant "Palin! Supreme Court! Support the Troops! Hurt the Poor! Teabaggers!" and magically, more than enough liberals would fall into line so I'd win. What a deal!
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 12:17 PM
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52. No
Not just NO, but Fuck NO,
AND, I demand the return of all the other money wasted,
AND, I demand a full audit,
AND, I demand the prosecution of War Profiteers.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 12:44 PM
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53. Negatory, good buddy.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 12:46 PM
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54. Not one more goddamn penny for this shit.
No more funding ever for any war that is not in the direct and actual defense of the United States of America, from an enemy that actually exists.
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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 02:50 PM
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55. NO NO NO
bout time.
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 07:13 PM
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56. NO!
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 07:15 PM
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57. Not a fucking chance in hell.
No.

Ain't gonna happen.

Are you fucking kidding me?
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 07:17 PM
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58. no
nothing else needs to be said.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 07:20 PM
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59. N. O. - NO!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 10:49 PM
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60. No fucking way!
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 11:04 PM
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61. Hell no!!!
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Eyerish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 11:18 PM
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62. Not just no,
but HELL NO!!
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kiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 11:25 PM
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63. No. n/t
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 11:26 PM
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64. Yes
We went in, we fucked that place up extra well and we have to stay and clean it up. It's our responsiblity.
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LostinRed Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 12:09 AM
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65. NO!
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 07:44 PM
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66. No, it's time to start packing to go home
.
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Prometheus Bound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 07:50 PM
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67. No. Only 100 Al-qaeda left. We won the war. Time to go home.
I would keep repeating that in TV soundbites, rearranging the words slightly each time to make it sound different. Then I would call my fiends in the media and pay them to repeat that unrelentingly in headlines, bombarding the country and world with that meme until everyone started nodding in unison.

You know, the same thing I would do if I wanted to start a war, but in reverse.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 10:22 PM
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68. No way in hell. And I'm not voting for anyone who supported this. Ever again. n/t
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 12:02 AM
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69. NO.
And don't ever ask again.
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Ross K Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 12:06 AM
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70. Uh wood b petreeotick
and say FUCK NO!!!
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