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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 12:40 PM
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Ben Stein: Unemployed People are Lazy, Unpleasant and Unable to Add and Subtract
Ben Stein: Unemployed People are Lazy, Unpleasant and Unable to Add and Subtract
Ben Stein has some nasty things to say about this country's 15 million unemployed in his latest column in the American Spectator. He writes, "The people who have been laid off and cannot find work are generally people with poor work habits and poor personalities."
by Lauren Kelley July 22, 2010 06:26 PM (PT)
http://uspoverty.change.org/blog/view/ben_stein_unemployed_people_are_lazy_unpleasant_and_unable_to_add_and_subtract

Poor Ben Stein. According to his latest column in the American Spectator, he and his wealthy friends are having a terrible time lately. It seems that the down economy has started to affect them in negative ways and — you're not going to believe this, folks — they don't like it. Aww! Someone give those rich people a hug.

Stein writes:

"Until now, I never had a friend who was truly in financial extremis from a recession. When recessions happened, they happened to people in Ohio or Illinois or Michigan. Now, they have hit hard in California and in the law field where so many of my friends work and in Washington, D.C. (yes, even in D.C.) where I am from. I never had a friend lose his house until this recession and now I am sad to say I have many pals who have either lost their homes or are in process of losing their homes."

Right, bad economic stuff is supposed to affect people who are poorer, and more Midwestern, than Stein. Folks in California and Washington don't lose their houses! (He might want to tell that to the 18.9 percent of Washingtonians who live in poverty every day.) Demand that the American Spectator retract Stein's ignorant and offensive column.

But that's only the beginning. The column gets really rich (pun intended) when Stein imparts the Lessons He Has Learned. Here's a good one about the unemployed — of which there are almost 15 million in the United States right now:

"The people who have been laid off and cannot find work are generally people with poor work habits and poor personalities. I say 'generally' because there are exceptions. But in general, as I survey the ranks of those who are unemployed, I see people who have overbearing and unpleasant personalities and/or who do not know how to do a day's work."

Here's another wise lesson:

"People who have meaningful savings, insured retirement plans, diversification of assets, people who do not buy what they cannot afford, people who do not simply assume the money will materialize out of thin air for their next purchase, people who add and subtract and see life plain, these people rarely get in desperate trouble."

Okay, look. I know there are plenty of financially irresponsible people in this world. But to suggest that most unemployed people are lazy and "unpleasant" and that people get into financial trouble because they can't "add and subtract and see life plain" — well, frankly, that's insane. Also, didn't he say earlier that his friends are now getting into financial trouble? His friends must not be very smart then, eh?

I'll stop there, because seriously, I could go on all day. However, I urge you to read the entire column for yourself http://spectator.org/archives/2010/07/19/the-end-of-wishful-thinking so you too can learn about Stein's theory on how employees should take classes to learn how to smell good on the job. That Ben Stein, he's such a genius!

Tell the editor of the American Spectator that the 15 million unemployed aren't lazy or unpleasant.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 12:42 PM
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1. He also avoids blaming anyone for recession.
I think he's smart enough to know who and what caused it.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 12:43 PM
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2. "Smirk." - Republicon Homelanders
Edited on Mon Jul-26-10 12:44 PM by SpiralHawk
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 01:00 PM
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6. Excellent!
Thanks.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 04:32 PM
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26. de nada
That's what America gets in the way of useful contributions from republicon homelanders: nada.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 12:47 PM
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3. Has Mr Stein ever been anything other than an individual contributor?
Has he written performance reviews? Has he hired and fired people as a middle manager? These are actually honest, nonsnarky questions. I'd really like to know.
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 12:51 PM
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4. Funny, considering that most of the people I've known with poor work habits and disagreeable
personalities have been co-workers.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 01:21 PM
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13. Lol!
Ditto!
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 01:31 PM
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15. actually I've noted these people get promoted to management (nt)
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 01:34 PM
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16. Exactly. Right now I am sitting in a place where this is obvious.
And it is ruining the business, yet management seems not to be able to get a handle on it.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 01:47 PM
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20. capitalism is a clever way for vicious, socially dysfunctional to ruin other people's lives
Who says it has anything to do with efficiency?
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 01:49 PM
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21. Mine have been in management!
:hi:
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 12:59 PM
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5. I invested in Stein's movie "Expelled" and now I'm broke
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 01:02 PM
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7. Um....Ben Stein is pointing fingers at people with "poor personalities"???
Hello pot, meet kettle.


:wtf:
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 01:02 PM
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8. I'm thinking "American Spectator" is a pretty shitty publication
if they publish stupid garbage from dickhead Ben Stein.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 01:04 PM
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9. Fuck you Ben Stein.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 07:00 AM
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27. Ditto n/t
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 01:04 PM
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10. Memo to Ben Stein:
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 01:05 PM
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11. Ben Stein will always be remembered as the Bueller Bueller guy.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 01:08 PM
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12. I think he's angling to get Andy Rooney's slot on 60 Minutes when
ole Andy retires. Someone's got to fill the crusty curmudgeon role. But Andy is somewhat likable - Ben not so much.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 01:27 PM
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14. And he'll still be the Bueller Bueller guy.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 01:36 PM
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17. And Stephen Root will always be...
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 07:17 AM
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30. Yep.
Even though he was Gordon in Dodgeball, and the voice of Bill Dauterive on "King of the Hill", the role he will always be remembered for is Milton Milton.
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 07:38 AM
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34. What?
The man that played Milton was the voice of Bill Dauterive? I never knew that!

Very cool. :thumbsup:
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 01:38 PM
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18. Suffer, Ben. I hope you suffer thoroughly.
Soulless bastard.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 01:39 PM
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19. Ben Stein, that Calvinist!
"For centuries, or at least since the Protestant Reformation, Western economic elites have flattered themselves with that idea that poverty is a voluntary condition. The Calvinist saw it as a result of sloth and other bad habits; the positive thinker blamed it on a willful failure to embrace abundance. This victim-blaming approach meshed neatly with the prevailing economic conservatism of the last two decades."

BRIGHT-SIDED: HOW THE RELENTLESS PROMOTION OF POSITIVE THINKING HAS UNDERMINED AMERICA
by Barbara Ehrenreich
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 02:55 PM
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22. The unemployed are poorly connected. And that's really the only thing they all have in common. (nt)
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 02:57 PM
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23. Since when did he pass Advanced Differential Equasions?
When?

Integral Calculus? 40 semester hours of college math? Huh? When?


:wtf:

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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 03:30 PM
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24. In His Column, Ben Is Almost Begging for the Guillotine
Marie Antoinette looks like monk compared to Ben.
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AlabamaLibrul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 03:31 PM
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25. Funny, I find Ben Stein unfunny, unpleasant, and unable to use the brain he allegedly has. (eom)
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 07:03 AM
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28. Anyone willing to do a freecreditreport commercial shouldn't say anything about antbody.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 07:16 AM
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29. Arkana, Unemployed Person: Ben Stein is a boring, worthless hack
who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 07:17 AM
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31. My wife is unemployed and is smarter and better educated than Ben Stein
Ben Stein is another silver spoon asshole who never had to work for anything.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 07:28 AM
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32. So who's the "elitist" again?
Stein writes:

"Until now, I never had a friend who was truly in financial extremis from a recession. When recessions happened, they happened to people in Ohio or Illinois or Michigan. Now, they have hit hard in California and in the law field where so many of my friends work and in Washington, D.C. (yes, even in D.C.) where I am from. I never had a friend lose his house until this recession and now I am sad to say I have many pals who have either lost their homes or are in process of losing their homes."


"Ohio or Illinois or Michigan"! What's the elitist term for those places? oh yeah, "Rust Belt", "flyover country". Guess it's only the "heartland" when it's convenient.


"I never had..."! Well welcome to Reaganomics, Beuler. All that stuff you've been promoting for years? That's what caused this. But don't let that pop the bubble you live in.

Yikes! Isn't this exactly the attitude that us "elitist Democrats" are said to have?
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 07:35 AM
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33. What a hard hearted little pig.
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