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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 11:48 AM
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New Theory: Every black hole holds a hidden universe.
Edited on Fri Jul-23-10 11:49 AM by alfredo
If you ever wondered what it is like inside a black hole, look around you. Maybe not, but it is fun to contemplate.


http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20727703.000-every-black-hole-may-hold-a-hidden-universe.html

WE COULD be living inside a black hole. This head-spinning idea is one cosmologist's conclusion based on a modification of Einstein's equations of general relativity that changes our picture of what happens at the core of a black hole.


In an analysis of the motion of particles entering a black hole, published in March, Nikodem Poplawski of Indiana University in Bloomington showed that inside each black hole there could exist another universe (Physics Letters B, DOI: 10.1016/j.physletb.2010.03.029). "Maybe the huge black holes at the centre of the Milky Way and other galaxies are bridges to different universes," Poplawski says. If that is correct - and it's a big "if" - there is nothing to rule out our universe itself being inside a black hole.


It's turtles all the way down.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 11:52 AM
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1. I think I learned that theory in elementary school
Well, maybe not that far back, but Ive heard it well over 15 yeas ago.
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mike r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 11:53 AM
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2. Well, not everything mathematical is science
Edited on Fri Jul-23-10 11:55 AM by mike r
or even reality. Every viable theory in physics has a _testable_ prediction, otherwise it's mere idle mathematical masturbation.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 12:21 PM
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6. This theory and/or masturbation are a nice way to pass time.
Edited on Fri Jul-23-10 12:22 PM by alfredo
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 11:53 AM
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3. I remember a quote
From Einstein, or perhaps Carl Sagan or some other famous scientist, that says that the universe is not only stranger than we imagine, it's stranger than we can imagine.

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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 12:21 PM
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7. That could apply to Palin
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 12:23 PM
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8. J. B. S. Haldane
Who actually said: "The Universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose."

In modern times, "queerer" got changed to "stranger".
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 11:55 AM
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4. Rec for the "turtles all the way down" reference
:kick:
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 12:19 PM
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5. Thank you for noticing!
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 06:32 PM
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19. +1
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 12:25 PM
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9. Okay. That means that...our whole solar system...
could be, like...one tiny atom in the fingernail of some other giant being.

Could I buy some pot from you?

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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 01:15 PM
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11. Hey, I did this thread for the dopers out there.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 12:49 PM
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10. Well if our universe is in a Black Hole, then I suppose other things
can be sucked in to our universe?

Thanks for the thread, alfredo.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 01:16 PM
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12. The whole universe sucks.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 01:39 PM
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13. Except when the Big Bang happens, that's when it blows.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 05:18 PM
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16. Blow is just a figure of speech.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 05:20 PM
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17. bazinga!
:evilgrin:
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 05:55 PM
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18. There is no gravity. The Earth sucks. But a Black Hole sucks
everything in until the universe turns inside out.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 01:41 PM
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14. Good pot will produce the same theories. nt
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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 03:49 PM
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15. Shrooms too. n/t
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 06:36 PM
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20. Somewhat out of topic... anybody plays 40K?
If you know the fluff... that is the warp... well partially. That is wild...

And there is so much potential for some fiction too.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 09:10 PM
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21. No me. I get blown away playing tetris.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 09:15 PM
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22. It is a miniature game
but if you only want to read, and like science fiction, I highly recommend the Ravenor Omnibus by Dan Abnett. Unlike most game companies, these guys pay their authors. He is good, and there is enough on the warp and chaos that I went... damn I wonder if these guys have played the game, or read the fiction. It is wild.

Dan Abnett has gone a few awards to boot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Abnett
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 11:39 PM
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24. I don't have the attention span to do anything for very long.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 09:23 PM
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23. And all of it together being pondered by a precocious 10 year old
looking into his "My Big Universarium" (on the shelf right next to the "Complete Far Side" book).
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 11:41 PM
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25. Then the Mountain Dew wore off and he crashed out on the couch.
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