''Hippies''......on History Channel. 8PM CST

[Gabi Hayes]

interesting so far....narrated by Peter Coyote

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[Deja Q]

1. Thanks!

More interesting than what's on FOX... :D

[Dogmudgeon]

5. Family Guy (with Keith Olbermann) was on FOX

Worth watching.

--p!

[Gabi Hayes]

2. Focusing on communes in first segment.....coming up, anti WAR comsymps!

sociologist who wrote "the hippie trip" talking about 'acid imposed on children'

sounds like he had an interesing 'slant' on his 'research'

[Deja Q]

3. i loved the commercial cliffhanger...

Discussing 1968; saying how the people wanted law and order... and the man who would bring it to them was Richard Nixon...

Complete with the accompanying music, the emotion 'fear' went through my spine. Mostly because of the music; which in any production is used to engender a specific effect.

Still, Nixon had his problems... and gave the key to our eventual demise to China. Or made us universal friends, we still don't quite know which way it is. I'll be an optimist and say it's the latter. They could have kept their mouths shut on the whole grain wheat poisoning problem... but didn't.

[Gabi Hayes]

4. Amen...Nixon and J. Walter Thompson have wrought almost EVERYTHING

bad that has followed in his wake

those who haven't read "The Selling of the President" will find that the groundwork for Reagan/Bush I/Bush II is all laid out very clearly, and that they've only 'improved' their marketing methods since then, as well as bringing mass media into the fold, mostly via concentration into a very SMALL handful of fascist corporations

[Deja Q]

9. Logical. Examine history and adapt. Or ignore history and repeat it.

What bothers me more is the ending; the big tie-ins to technology -- which uses energy which in turn pollutes the planet faster, yadda yadda... I was sold on the program until the end.

[jwirr]

25. I only saw the end, am tivoing it now, but I thought that the move

into pc and internet was a reasonable link to the way it was. We here on DU are a part of that personal freedom that they were talking about. And it has given us power to change things. I do not know what is going to happen to the computer age when we have to face up to the consequences of global warming and oil peak but it does seem to me that it is stimulating the kind of change we need to work on these problems.

[H2O Man]

6. It's a good film.

Last week, I bought "Hippie," by Barry Miles, who is one of the people being interviewed.

[Gabi Hayes]

7. Electric Kool Aid Acid Test remains one of the best things I've read on the time.

It's even better the second time around, given the time and perspective gained

Tom Wolfe USED to be a genius

used to be

poor man

''My happiness did indeed arise from the same secret as the happiness in dreams; it arose from the freedom to experience everything imaginable simultaneously, to exchange outward and inward easily...as we conquered the war-shattered world by our faith and transformed it into paradise, we creatively brought the past, the future and the fictitious into the present moment. The present moment! Now! ''

BE HERE NOW!

btw, H20. continual thanks for your participation here.

[Gabi Hayes]

10. one of many many sites, this one is particularly interesting

http://www.intrepidtrips.com/

[H2O Man]

11. It's interesting

for me, in part because the house I call "home" today used to house a small but dedicated group of young men, women, and children who were kind of a "commune." I had been thinking about them earlier today, when I was watching my sons working on a new rose garden for me. Many years ago, a lady who lived and died here had planted some massive flower gardens, and the "hippies" who lived here more recently had used a lot of them in a landscaping business.

I used to visit the commune folks here from time to time, and always thought highly of them.

[UTUSN]

8. Bottomline Hippie wisdom: " Don't eat fried foods." n/t

[Gabi Hayes]

12. heh...then, there's always this: "Hey hippie! Where you goin' with that afro? Gimme a dollar!"

then, BAM!

smack in the face, robbery from a moving vehicle

[Wiley50]

13. I don't have a TV, are they still trashing us old Hippies?

Slanted journalism is what it is

What we did was way cool
no matter what the corp media has to say

Co-opted and trashed
really sucks

But Goddamnit, We was right
even way back when

[Gabi Hayes]

14. not real bad, actually. fair and balanced, hah! and CHECK THIS out Acid Test Graduation!

with Neal Cassidy!

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1947747663

[blues90]

15. Just as long as you don't bring up the word boomer

I made that mistake yesterday . I guess hippy is acceptable , perhaps there is a fine line between the two words .

[Gabi Hayes]

16. Zane Kesey site

http://www.key-z.com/

[GreenPartyVoter]

17. Very cool. My conservative XN hubby watched it. He wasn't impressed with the

drugs and free-flowing-get-with-everybody sex, but the idea of a commune struck a chord with him. (And me.)

[Gabi Hayes]

18. Kesey clips. well worth watching. 7 others on this page.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=2011872636

maybe you had to be there.....personally, I don't think so, but.....

Favorite snip from Electric Kool Aid Acid Test: as the Pranksters drove across America in 1964, with a continuously filled/filling jug of acid laced OJ, they drove through Arizona, displaying a sign that pronounced, "A vote for Barry is a vote for FUN!"

or something very close to that

[Gabi Hayes]

19. advice to yute: read On the Road, read Electric KoolAid Acid Test if

you want to beging to understand how "hippie" evolved.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=89514002

EDIT....this is better: the child is father to the man...from Zane to dad's myspace:


http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=69238566

[Gabi Hayes]

20. wow! actually in a good mood!

[Gabi Hayes]

21. Cassady vid

''......This video contains the original film footage shot in 1965 by the Merry Pranksters. We recommend this video tape to the Cassady aficionados; it is raw and we offer no explanations. It is Neal Cassady as you have never seen him. Listen to his raps, watch his moves and absorb the energy of the fastestmanalive. ''

http://www.key-z.com/video.html

lots of vids there...scroll more than halfway down for Cassady

Dean Moriarty, for those who know what I'm talking about

[Monk06]

23. Cassady was one wack mofo. His last months spent on speed ...

compulsively tossing a two pound ball peen
hamper in the air and catching it.

He never went anywhere without that hammer.

And he definitely didn't look like any HA
love child !!!!

[Gabi Hayes]

24. your descriptions are sort of true, but need to be taken in context. e.g.: he did speed MUCH

of the time.... when he wasn't doing other drugs, or along with them

why concentrate on those three aspects of his life, when there are other, more interesting/instructive ways of seeing him

here's a very very superficial primer

http://www.litkicks.com/People/NealCassady.html

''The real genius behind the Beat movement in literature never published a book during his life. He appeared as a main character in many books, though, from 'Go' by John Clellon Holmes to 'On The Road' by Jack Kerouac to 'The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test' by Tom Wolfe. His free-flowing letter writing style inspired the young Kerouac to break his ties to the sentimental style he'd picked up from Thomas Wolfe and invent his notion of 'spontaneous prose.' Without Neal Cassady, the Beat Generation would never have happened.''

let readers be the judge of which characterization is more apt

[Monk06]

26. Not meant as a criticism. I think Cassady could have ended up as

Burroughs equal. Kesey and Kerouac I think was overrated

As an aside I studies with an artist who hung
out with the Ferlinghetti crowd who were strong
supporters of the Vancouver beat scene.

[Gabi Hayes]

27. didn't mean to seem as if I took it that way. Just thought other aspects of

his character, which was very seedy, to say the least, are of more interest

interesting scene at North Beach back then. I'd love to hear some stories about that

and, get this....

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0337692/

[Monk06]

29. Interesting link. I wonder if Walter is related to John Sayles?

[Blue_In_AK]

22. Well, I guess I'll have to check this one out

and see if they do us justice. :hippie:

[Rex]

28. Very interesting show so far, love how the narrator tactically uses

the word 'hate' a lot. So far 50/50 on the bullshit scale.