Kathy Griffin to Elisabeth Hasselbeck "Suck It"

[earth mom]

Kathy Griffin isn't backing down from her feud with "View" co-host Elisabeth Hasselbeck.

After the two sparred on-air last month on "The View," Hasselbeck called Griffin "scum" this week for her joke that Scott Brown's daughters are prostitutes.

Griffin's response? Hasselbeck can "suck it."

"Now I have to send Elisabeth Hasselbeck two muffin baskets because she confronted me when I was a guest on the show two weeks ago and then this morning she called me 'scum,'" Griffin told E!. "I have to send two baskets because as a comedian, I'm loving it."

"Suck it!" she added. "As the great Bette Midler said, 'F--k 'em if they can't take a joke.'"


Go Kathy! :applause:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/21/kathy-griffin-to-elisabet_n_654181.html

[lpbk2713]

1. Hasselbeck is a horse's ass.

She's only on that show for an occasional token RW Nutjob point of view.

She's The View's own Pat Buchanan.

[KansDem]

5. I heard her once say that Bush didn't do anything on 9/11 when told of the attacks...

...by Andrew Card, because "he didn't want to scare the children." :spray:

And this was recently!

[chemenger]

57. One look at Bush's face should be enough for anyone to know

that he was scared when informed of the attack.

[kskiska]

92. But after he finished reading The Pet Goat

he went into the school library to face the cameras and stood with the schoolchildren behind him addressing the nation about the 9/11 attacks. Here's the picture from the Booker Elementary School website:



So much for scaring the children.

[KansDem]

93. Thanks for the photo...

I had forgotton about this one.

I'm still amazed that he was able to ascertain what was going on, even though the video of Andrew Card telling him "we're under attack" shows that Bush did not say anything to him. There was no communication between him and Card save the initial message given to Bush by Card.

No communication...

And yet, Bush continues to read the book to the children, then addresses the nation? With what information?

I mean, wouldn't you think that if a POTUS is told "we're under attack," he might want to confer with his Chief of Staff? We would see them talking between themselves? He might want to instantly get as much information as possible by conferring with other members of his administration before addressing the nation?

How could Bush address the nation without getting any information whatsoever?

Amazing...

[virgogal]

2. Does anyone really care about this feud?

[gratuitous]

3. Kathy Griffin's agent, for one

And anyone who enjoys a good one-sided cat fight. Other than that, canny folks of a certain manual aptitude might want to use the "hide thread" feature.

[earth mom]

4. You should be aware of how evil Hasselbeck is and how her daily rethug talking points

are as poisonous as those that Limblah and O'Lielly spew.

Maybe you should think again about what a great thing Kathy Griffin is doing by exposing that piece of shit Hasselbeck for what she is!

[HillbillyBob]

6. I used to watch The View but when blondienazi kept up with her

rightwing bs, I wrote to the producer and said I was tuning out.
I occasionally watch if there is someone I want to see ..which is maybe 2x a month.

[earth mom]

7. I haven't watched since they humiliated Rosie O'Donnell and she left.

I only check out clips when something controversial happens.

I would love to see Hasselbeck go down, be humiliated and fired. :evilgrin:

[LostinVA]

42. She should have been fired after the Erin Andrews thing n/t

[blue_onyx]

44. Same here

Rosie was the only reason to watch the show. I'm looking forward to Rosie's next show.

[whathehell]

8. Can't stand Hasselbeck...but not crazy about Griffin either

I'm not sure how calling Scott Brown's daughters "prostitutes" is either classy or fair.:eyes:

[earth mom]

12. Hmm, you don't like Kathy? Why? Because she's honest?

And who gives a damn about being classy in this country anymore?

Do the greedy bastards in charge care who have robbed us all blind and fed us bullshit and lies for years?

Sorry, to break it to ya, but they could give a shit about any of us as long as they've got theirs!

And do you think Limblah or O'Lielly give a damn about being classy?

C'mon now.

Kathy Griffin is HONEST.

The TRUE LEFT needs people like Kathy who have a voice now more than ever.

Trying to shut up someone like Kathy is a crime.

I'm surprised that you or anyone on the TRUE LEFT can't see that.

[whathehell]

27. Who's classy in American society now?.... Rachel Maddow.

Kathy Griffin is a comedian not some big time political operative, which might explain to you why my opinion of her has zilch do with my opinions on O'Liely, Rush, etc.

Sorry, but I didn't think her comment on Brown's daughters was particularly funny, relevant or possessed of that "honesty" you think she embodies....If you can tell me what attacking a politician's kids contributes to intelligent political discourse, I'd be interested in hearing it.

I find gratuitous attacks on the FAMILIES of politicians to be sleazy -- REGARDLESS of whose side of the aisle they are on.....But then again, I haven't given up on the idea of character and "class" in our society...You, apparently, have.

[earth mom]

46. Browns daughters are not children-they are over 18.

Frankly, I don't know why you want to defend that disgusting rethug and his kids and pick on Kathy Griffin who is a full on leftie, but whatever.

As to what I consider classy or the importance I place on it-you don't know me in real life so maybe YOU should "stay classy" and keep your innuendo about me to yourself.

But just an FYI as to why I'm here and why I post like I do-this is a "message board" after all where most of us come to cuss, brawl and vent-things most us can't and won't do in real life.

[whathehell]

50. They're not political players..

and I'm not defending Brown, just the concept of keeping families out of it...but never mind -- You don't seem sensitive to nuance.

Your description of this message board sounds more like a description of the lounge....but again, never mind.

I really have nothing to say to you, dear...So I'll just say "buh-bye" :hi:

[Hannah Bell]

54. they were political players in their father's campaign.

[whathehell]

66. Chelsea Clinton was a political player in her mother's campaign..

and I didn't think that gave anyone (like David Schuster) carte blanche to slime her either.

My values are consistent..I don't make exceptions for cheap shots coming from "our side".

[Hannah Bell]

76. clinton didn't offer her daughter up to the nation for dates, and griffin isn't a political

player or commentator, but a comedian.

but knock yourself out with your outrage.

[whathehell]

80. Tell Schuster that...He claimed that her parents were "pimping her out:"

"Outrage"?...Honey, the only one "outraged" here is you and your fellow Griffinites...I simply said I didn't like it or her..Deal with it.

[Hannah Bell]

85. well, let's get the video, compare the two, & take a poll of someone other than a former

fox news host, shall we?

question could be: who seems to be pimping their daughter(s)?

& btw, i'm not outraged at all. you're the one who seems to be outraged & morally offended.

i think brown behaved stupidly, but i don't care, he's a right wing hack, what else is new?

i think griffin's 3-second comment was funny, & brown was stupid (again) to make a big deal out of it.

now here, you get the last word____________________________________________.

[whathehell]

90. What's with the "lets" and "we"?

You go right ahead and take your little poll...At this point, I couldn't care less!

I don't know whether to laugh or feel sorry for you...You're so pathetically intent on "being right" .....I'm leaving due to "lack of interest"...Buh bye!

[leftynyc]

70. Is Kathy being honest

when she calls the Brown daughters prostitutes? Even performers who I normally would like fuck up sometimes. This is one of those times.

[whathehell]

75. No, she's not...

and you deserve credit for defending something called "principle".:thumbsup:

[verges]

74. Who said anything avout shutting her up?

I don't care much for her either. That's because I don't find her funny. That should be okay. I feel it's okay that you do feel she's funny. No one has even hinted that her freedom to perform should be taken away; that she should be shut up.

[Bluebear]

14. Yes, it's important for comediennes to be "classy".

:eyes:

[whathehell]

29. Not for you, apparently.

[Hannah Bell]

39. maybe you should talk to the girls' dad about class. he needs some lessons.

in his acceptance speech:

"and just in case anybody who's watching throughout the country, yes, they're both available..." (interrupted by groans from family & audience)...

no, no only kidding...arianna definitely is not available, but ayala is...

(wife: stop!)...

this is arianna, this is ayala...i can see i'm going to get in trouble when i get home..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SdzSw96soM

tasteless.


he's a politician, griffin's a comedian. you got the wrong target. his remarks were tasteless & a bit creepy.

& his family didn't look that comfortable with it, either.

[PVnRT]

53. If she had called Bwon a pimp, you would have a point

That's basically what Brown was doing, pimping out his daughters. I have no problem with targeting the right people, but I guess thinking that families who basically stay out of the fray should be out of bounds is now somehow the doubleplusbad view around here.

[Hannah Bell]

55. tell it to brown, he's the one who brought them into it, both in his ads & his acceptance speech.

he's an adult, they're adults, he's the one who offered them to the nation & he's the one giving griffin's offhand remark, about 3 seconds in a little-watched cable show, national prominence.

if you've seen the footage, griffin's joke is funny & on target.

[lib_wit_it]

69. Exactly, Hannah--I took griffin's comments to be a clear comment/reaction to Brown's own sleazy

remarks about his daughters. She was, in fact, making a point about Brown's comments and, if he had any self awareness, he'd maybe take a lesson about his own lack of class for saying what he did.

And, Kathy Griffin is not a politician nor an official representative of any political party.

[whathehell]

65. Maybe Griffin should "talk to the girls' father about class"...

instead of attacking the girls.

That's the point...if you have a problem with that, I'm sorry.:shrug:

[Hannah Bell]

77. she *did* "talk to the girls' father about class"; if you didn't get it, i'm sorry.

[whathehell]

82. I believe YOU are not "getting" it.......I'm sorry if you can't take others not sharing your views,

but I don't think Griffin OR Brown are the BIGGEST issues we're facing, so you might want to turn your attention elsewhere...I certainly am.

You can continue with your obsession about Griffin....Some of us have lives.:eyes:

[Hannah Bell]

84. lol. says the person who keeps talking about it.

[whathehell]

88. lol...says the pot calling the kettle black.

..I'm sure that getting that "last word", however petty, is important to you...Buh Bye:hi:

[backwoodsbob]

41. when O'liely calls the presidents daughters prostitutes

remember this day

[Bluebear]

43. Is O'Liely a comedienne?

[WinkyDink]

15. Would it help to know that Ayla Brown was on "American Idol"? ;-)

Not joking.

[KamaAina]

21. Or that Code Brown mentioned they were "available" during his acceptance speech?

That's where Griffin's joke came from.

[whathehell]

30. No, It wouldn't help.

I don't think being on "American Idol" equals "prostitution"...Unless you're a member of the American Taliban, or something...Give me a break.

[Hannah Bell]

34. idol has nothing to do with the joke -- which you probably knew.

"On the night Scott Brown was elected to the U.S. Senate, he told the world that his daughters, Ayla, 22, a former contestant on American Idol and correspondent for "The Early Show" on CBS, and Arianna, 19, a college student and model, were "available" (though he obviously didn't mean for money). Both women appeared in television ads for their dad during his campaign."

http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_news/106692/scott_brown_his_daughters_are


their father doesn't have much class, either. his acceptance speech about his daughters:

"and just in case anybody who's watching throughout the country, yes, they're both available..."

(interrupted by groans from his family & the audience)...

no, no only kidding...arianna definitely is not available, but ayala is...

(his wife: stop!)...

this is arianna, this is ayala...i can see i'm going to get in trouble when i get home..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SdzSw96soM


tasteless. you don't want comedians to make fun of your stupidity, don't act stupid.



both his daughters are adults, & both are in the public eye as regards his campaign & their own careers.

fair game. if he hadn't made an issue of it, far fewer people would have even been aware of a 1-second comment griffin made on her cable show, whose audience is not especially big.

i actually think griffin is fairly classy.

[whathehell]

58. "he told the world that his daughters were available (though obviously not for money)"

That last part is key...duh.

Griffin's comment was, imo, was a typically cheap shot.

You like her -- I don't. Sue me.:shrug:

[Hannah Bell]

59. if you saw the video, it wasn't all that obvious. he was creepy.

griffin's jab was on-target, & it was at him, not his daughters.

they're adults, they were on the campaign trail for him & in his ads, & he was the one offering them to the nation.

if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

or quit making stupid creepy remarks about your daughters.

[whathehell]

68. I didn't have to see the video...I saw it live.

and I found it more awkward than "creepy"...Sorry, but to me it sounded like a father's old-fashioned joke about getting his daughters married.

Perhaps prurience is in the eyes and ears of the beholder...Knock yourselves out.:shrug:

[Hannah Bell]

78. the reason it felt awkward is because it was sleazy & in poor taste.

if it had been merely an old-fashioned father's joke about getting his daughters married it wouldn't have felt awkward.

so you were live at brown's acceptance speech?

interesting.

[whathehell]

79. I'm sorry, but no, that's NOT why it felt awkward to me..

It felt "awkward" because the girls and their mom felt that way.

An example: I'm a heterosexual woman who stayed single for a long time and my dad, on rare occassion, would tease me about it when people were around..There was nothing "sleazy" about it..I was just slightly embarrassed at the issue being brought up in public...No Big Whoop.

I think you are REALLY pushing this meme that simply doesn't ring true for a lot of people.

[Hannah Bell]

83. you know what the girls & their mom "felt"? did you talk to them?

no, it felt awkward to viewers because it's in poor taste for a father to offer up his daughters to the entire nation for dates on television. which is what he did.

i have no idea what the girls or their mother "felt". i know that they "looked" uncomfortable & embarrassed, & dad just went on & on.

poor taste.

we could do a poll on it & see what people think. perhaps you're the one who's in the minority.

[whathehell]

87. Oh, I see...Having failed to score any major points you're now correcting me on "word usage"?

What's next....Typos?


Good night and good luck:hi:

[WinkyDink]

72. (Delete.)

[WinkyDink]

73. You miss my point. DU, as a whole, abominates "Idol." Thus, a nod in KG's favor.

It's called snark. Hence, the "wink" emoticon.

I happen to be one of the few AI fans here.

[Bluebear]

13. Or..

you could talk to a potted plant and get the same response :)

[Cid_B]

52. Meh,...

Griffin just comes off as an attention whore.... Doesn't "expose" diddly squat.

[Missy Vixen]

18. Anyone who's utterly weary of the bleatings of a brain-dead RW

"talk show host" is loving it. After all, she's not only stupid, she's stupid enough to tangle with someone like Kathy Griffin, who makes her look even more stupid than she already is.

I might also mention that every time EH shoots off her mouth, she brings more attention to Griffin, who's done things like lobby for the repeal of DADT, and on last night's episode, had a Pap smear on-camera to illustrate to the high percentage of women who don't have them how easy and quick a crucial diagnostic test to spot and prevent cervical cancer is.

All Elisabeth Hasselbeck does is waste oxygen.

[Cirque du So-What]

19. Does anyone really care about whether or not you care about this feud?

ad nauseam

If you don't care about this feud, you always have the option to ignore it & any mention of it - including this thread altogether.

It seems the height of superciliousness to drop in on a thread with nothing more to contribute than 'tut tut' for all those held in haughty disdain.

[fascisthunter]

37. lol

[emilyg]

24. I don't.

[LostinVA]

31. Yes -- Kathy is a HUGE GLBT ally

She gives alot of her time to related causes. I also think she is fucking funny as hell. LOVE "D-List."

[Dr.Phool]

9. Elizabeth is entering a battle of wits, unarmed.

[KamaAina]

20. Ahem...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=8776582&mesg_id=8776582

:-)

[JVS]

10. LOL. You gotta love Kathy's antics!

[zippy890]

23. yes, she is funny

[xchrom]

11. Kathy is Teh Awesome!!! Nt

[ThatsMyBarack]

25. Hasslebitch is teh douche!

[xchrom]

26. Good one! Nt

[WinkyDink]

16. EH doesn't get it; KG's act DEPENDS on the outrage of others!

[Ross K]

17. Dissenting

Kathy Griffin is the most annoying person in the country! This is the 0.5% of the time when I take Hassebeck's side.

[Name removed]

22. Deleted message

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[bigwillq]

28. I think that's part of Kathy's gig

I find her to be hysterical. Plus, she fights for good causes. I like her a lot.

[LostinVA]

32. -1

[fascisthunter]

38. lol... dissenting? Wuh?

you are free to say what you want according to the rules. You are also free to defend your post if asked, or you can choose to ignore the people asking.

[Fleshdancer]

47. Your loss

When you actually listen to her, she's freakin' hilarious.

[HEyHEY]

49. Seconded

[MiniMe]

33. On this one, I sort of side with Hasselbeck, kids should be off limits

Of course, Brown started this one himself when he said something like his daughters are available. DU totally gave Brown shit on DU for saying that, as we should, however, we stopped short of calling his daughters prostitutes. And believe me, I really hate siding with Hasselbeck.

[Hannah Bell]

36. they're adults. adults with public careers, to boot.

their father doesn't have much class, either. in his acceptance speech:

"and just in case anybody who's watching throughout the country, yes, they're both available..." (interrupted by groans from family & audience)...

no, no only kidding...arianna definitely is not available, but ayala is...

(wife: stop!)...

this is arianna, this is ayala...i can see i'm going to get in trouble when i get home..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SdzSw96soM

tasteless.

and griffin's a comedian; anyone familiar with her schtick knows better than to take it seriously.

i think she's funny, & part of the funny is the things she says are so over-the-top but not in a prurient sleazy way.

& imo, more honest than maddow, who's a political operative, not an honest broker, however much some may like her show, persona, or tv politics.

[MrSlayer]

35. Who is Cathy Griffin?

I've never heard of her before this. Unfortunately, I do know who Hasselbeck is.

[TheManInTheMac]

40. "Suck it"? Well, at least Kathy is original. I've never heard that come back before. n/t

[UTUSN]

45. My Kathy!1 n/t

[HEyHEY]

48. A fight to the death with the winner recieving death sounds fine tome

[CBGLuthier]

51. Joke? Joke?

wikipedia defines joke as

A joke is a short story or ironic depiction of a situation communicated with the intent of being humorous. These jokes will normally have a punchline that will end the sentence to make it humorous. A joke can also be a single phrase or statement that employs sarcasm. ...


What the fuck does Kathy Griffin know about jokes? She can't even be funny when insulting someone.

[Hannah Bell]

56. if you saw brown pimping his daughters, griffin's remark was both funny & on-target.

[LostinVA]

60. I find Kathy Griffin funny 90% fo the time

Her show on Bravo is hysterical.

[Hannah Bell]

61. i do as well. she's the only comedian i've ever been able to tolerate rank

profanity & gross humor from -- because for some reason, it doesn't come off very gross. she doesn't seem lascivious or mean-spirited i think is the reason. more goofy or so over the top you can't take it seriously.

i thought brown's slavering over his daughters was way more creepy than anything griffin said.

[LostinVA]

62. I think that's a good way to put it

And, everyone who saw last week's episode of "D-List" saw the context in which she said it, which is funny.

Brown's daughters are adults, and he basically was "pimping them out" when he made that comment. If you watch the video if that incident, quite a few people were uncomfortable with him saying it, including family members.

I also recommend reading her autobiography. VERY interesting.

[LostinVA]

63. The remark was also aimed at HIM, not his daughters

I saw the episode where she said this. It was obvious it was a jab at Brown.

[Mad_Dem_X]

64. I love Kathy; Elisabeth is an idiot. n/t

[aikoaiko]

67. And both sides score big with their constituencies.

Normally, I don't like it when people call women who merely are pretty and in summer beach wear prostitutes, but it was a joke. Ok. Kathy's joke can be criticized, but Kathy is not scum for making joke.

Ultimately, I side with Kathy on this one.

[eilen]

71. Kathy Griffin is the shit

EH can suck it. KG is a comedienne and an actress. She will say things that are shocking and offensive. It is her job. Remember Joan Rivers? Phyllis Diller? Margaret Cho.. And how about Sarah Silverman? It's okay for comedian and non comedian Men to say offensive things publicly and have a little brouha over it but not comediennes? How many odes to Carlin and other outspoken male comedians do I see here -- EH is known to be a sexist little RW asshole and I would hardly support her double standard. I'd like to see her criticize Anne Coulter who is so over the top she should call herself a comedian as her facts are so stretched and twisted to be called a pundit and she uses shock tactics to make RWingers laugh. If her book lauding Sen. McCarthy wasn't supposed to be a satire on the idiocy and brainwash of the right.....

Since when was comedy classy? It's supposed to make fun of people who think they are classy. Points the finger at the emperor with no clothes. From a Sarah Palin acolyte I can understand EH's lack of a sense of humor.

EH takes herself too seriously. Kathy should do a show just on her and her tarnished purity ring running around scantily clad in Survivor where she probably did her best work as an "actress." I mean that is her bonafides other than marrying some wealthy athlete and plagiarizing another author's book.

Fuck them if they can't take a joke. (Particularly media-made no talents who have had every job handed to them).

[Missy Vixen]

81. "Wealthy athlete"?

Elisabeth Hasselbeck's husband, Tim, is most likely still picking the splinters out of his ass; I don't think he started a game in his entire NFL career. He wasn't one of the big wage-earners. He's now a talking head on ESPN, and I can guarantee he's not hauling down the big bucks. She most likely outearns him.

It is somewhat ironic that a woman who touts the "conservative" line is still working outside their home.

In the meantime, re: that purity ring - Hasselbeck has been asked if she engaged in premarital intercourse with her husband. She refused to answer the question.

I will enjoy watching what happens next; Kathy Griffin will most likely damage EH's "career" at the least.

[mikeSchmuckabee]

86. Why doesn't she call h'beck a whore?

Isn't that how she got where she is?

[EmeraldCityGrl]

89. Griffin has a no joke apology rule...

and she ain't going to back down...you go Kathy.

:toast: :bounce:

[AtomicKitten]

91. I'm with Kathy on this one. nt