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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 12:45 PM
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FYI, Will Marshall (Progressive Policy Institute) says he a centrist. Are NEOCONS centrist?
Madfloridian kindly posted an informative thread entitled "As Netroots Nation starts this week, some Democrats warn the liberals". "some Democrats" includes Will Marshall, head of the Progressive Policy Institute. Sounds like a progressive group doesn't it? Makes you think they're fighting for the people and progressive values. You make the call. Please read:



Will Marshall, the head of PPI signed PNAC letters.
(Called "Bill Clinton's idea mill," the Progressive Policy Institute was responsible for many of the Clinton administration's initiatives...)
Starting right after 9/11.
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Along with such neocon stalwarts as Robert Kagan, Bruce Jackson, Joshua Muravchik, James Woolsey, and Eliot Cohen, a half-dozen Democrats were among the 23 individuals who signed PNAC's first letter on post-war Iraq. Among the Democrats were Ivo Daalder of the Brookings Institution and a member of Clinton's National Security Council staff; Martin Indyk, Clinton's ambassador to Israel; Will Marshall of the Progressive Policy Institute and Democratic Leadership Council; Dennis Ross, Clinton's top adviser on the Israel-Palestinian negotiations; and James Steinberg, Clinton's deputy national security adviser and head of foreign policy studies at Brookings.

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0522-10.htm


"We're all populists now," says the DLC's Will Marshall, but the organization still scorns the populist economics that was central to Democratic election victories across the county last year.

http://commonsense.ourfuture.org/wrong_right?tx=3


In the introduction to the 2006 book With All Our Might: A Progressive Strategy for Defeating Jihadism and Defending Liberty, editor Will Marshall, president of the Progressive Policy Institute (PPI), promotes what he calls “progressive internationalism” as opposed to the “conservative unilateralism” of the George W. Bush administration. He argues that the Iraq War is part of a larger strategy for “building a world safe for individual liberty and democracy,” and that the “Bush Republicans have been tough but they have not been smart” in directing the course of the war in Iraq. Part of being smart is “using our strengths,” says Marshall. “Democrats must be committed to preserving America's military predominance, because a strong military undergirds U.S. global leadership.”

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A core member of a neoconservative-like vanguard within the Democratic Party establishment, Marshall has been instrumental in creating organizations that have worked to move the party to the right on everything from foreign to economic policies. With Al From, in 1985 Marshall cofounded the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC), an important bastion of center-right Democrats that was once chaired by Sen. Joseph Lieberman (D-CT). In 1989, Marshall founded the PPI, a think tank that is affiliated with the DLC. Marshall and From were both staffers for Rep. Gillis Long (D-LA), who was the chairman of the House Democratic Party Caucus in the early 1980s. Marshall served as Long's speechwriter and policy analyst and was also senior editor of the 1984 House Democratic Caucus policy blueprint, “Renewing America's Promise.”

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Marshall was one of 15 analysts who co-wrote the PPI's October 2003 foreign policy blueprint, “Progressive Internationalism: A Democratic National Security Strategy.” Using language that closely mirrors that of the neoconservative-led Project for the New American Century (PNAC), the PPI hailed the “tough-minded internationalism” of past Democratic presidents such as Harry Truman. Like PNAC, which in its founding statement warned of grave present dangers confronting America, the PPI strategy declared that, “Today America is threatened once again” and is in need of assertive individuals committed to strong leadership. The authors' observation that, “like the Cold War, the struggle we face today is likely to last not years but decades,” echoes both neoconservative and Bush administration national security assessments. As the “Progressive Internationalism” authors explain, the PPI endorsed the invasion of Iraq “because the previous policy of containment was failing, because Saddam posed a grave danger to America as well as to his own brutalized people, and because his blatant defiance of more than a decade's worth of UN Security Council resolutions was undermining both collective security and international law.”



http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1295

The DLC and the Neo-Cons the ties that bind
by Genf
Thu Dec 09, 2004 at 03:40:25 AM PST

Did you vote for this man?

Will Marshall founded the closely affiliated Progressive Policy Institute (PPI), a think tank that shares offices with the DLC.
Genf's diary :: ::

Marshall was one of 15 analysts who wrote the Progressive Policy Institute's foreign policy blueprint, "Progressive Internationalism: A Democratic National Security Strategy". Using language that mirrors that of the neoconservative Project for the New American Century (PNAC), in October 2003 PPI hailed the "tough-minded internationalism" of past Democratic presidents such as Harry Truman. Like PNAC, which warned of the present danger in its founding documents, the Progressive Policy Institute declared that "America is threatened once again" and needs

This is a well used tactic of the PPI/DLC they come up with the exact same proposals as the Neo-cons but written in Progressive-speak. Listed at the think (stink)-tank) you will find the EXACT proposal the Neo-Cons have for such policies as dismantling Head Start etc.

Like PNAC and the Bush administration, the Progressive Policy Institute has a vision of national security that extends to fostering democracy and freedom around the world in "the belief that America can best defend itself by building a world safe for individual liberty and democracy." It's likely that PNAC itself would heartily agree with PPI's criticism of those who complain that "the Bush administration has been too radical in recasting America's national security strategy." In fact, in assessing the Bush administration's foreign policy agenda, the institute stated, "we believe it has not been ambitious enough or imaginative enough
So what are the chances of the DLCers being against the Draft???

Although Marshall calls himself a "centrist," he has associated himself with neoconservative organizations and their radical foreign policy agendas. At the onset of the Iraq invasion,Marshall signed statements issued by the Project for the New American Centurycalling for the removal of Saddam Hussein, advocating that NATO help "secure and destroy all of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction," and arguing that the invasion "can contribute decisively to the democratization of the Middle East."
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/12/9/64026/6705


Opps.... almost forgot Madfloridians thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=8772847&mesg_id=8772847
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 12:56 PM
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1. Will Marshall is a PNAC signator, and therefore a war criminal.
And there is nothing "centrist" about that.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 12:58 PM
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2. The answer in the end, is yes (though they would say neo-liberal).
The thing is, they are essentially the same.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 12:59 PM
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3. Centrist is one of the labels DLC hides behind
In actuality, they're neocon enablers.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 01:16 PM
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4. It's like they've hired Frank Luntz to write their scripts. Centrist & DLC/PPI is a joke.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 02:11 PM
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8. Correct. They use it to imply that they are simply being reasonable...
...and anyone who differs from their line are the ones being "radical".
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 01:17 PM
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5. They share one great point of agreement...

Liberals, progressives, neocons, neolibs and libertarians all agree that Capitalism is hunky dory.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 01:46 PM
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6. Who listens to this guy now?
Obama, Biden--how much? As much as Clinton did? Judging from the results, it would appear the Liberal hawks are very influential. :thumbsdown:

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 02:02 PM
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7. Probably.. The whole axis has shifted so far right, that the "center"
is so far right, we hardly recognize it:(
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 02:29 PM
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9. This is exactly why I won't call myself a progressive.
It's why the term "centrist" is also tainted.

So now I call myself a leftist; not totally accurate, but without the baggage and ambiguity that "liberal" or "progressive" come with.

It's also why I'll stick to calling those to the right of me, but still within the scale of reasonable Democrats, "moderate" rather than "centrist." At least until I can think of something better.

For a couple of years, I've been referring to them as "dlc/centrist/corporatist/3rd way Democrats."

I don't do that any more. These days, I simply call them neo-liberals. How long before they spin "neoliberal" into something vague, ambiguous, and acceptable?
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 02:38 PM
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10. you're not a progressive. You've always taken the corporatist candidate's POV.
BTW Neo-Libs like Wolfowitz & Perle = NEO Cons
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 02:54 PM
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12. When, exactly, have I EVER taken a corporate candidate's POV?
The only candidate I've ever supported here at DU is Dennis Kucinich.

Are you calling him a corporatist?

Let's take a look at my positions, which have stayed consistent no matter what candidate was running or party was in power:

1. 100% opposition to war. All the wars we've engaged in during my lifetime.

2. Universal, single-payer, not-for-profit health care. Or national health care.

3. Universal fully PUBLIC pre-school - trade school or college.

4. End of NAFTA, withdrawal from WTO.

5. Election reform: hand counted, paper ballots; 100% publicly-funded campaigns, debates giving all candidates equal talk time, answering the same questions, some version of IRV.

6. Re-regulation, and de-privatization, of everything that's been privatized, or semi-privatized, or de-regulated, since Ronald Reagan's tenure.

7. Stronger, and better-enforced, anti-trust laws.

8. A living wage. Stronger support for labor.

9. Stronger, broader, and better enforced environmental protections.

Corporatist? Really?

:rofl:
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PufPuf23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 02:47 PM
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11. Neo-liberals and Neo-conservatives
are the Good Cop Bad Cop of 21st century fascism.

Their policies are similar are far as global military empire, privatization, and globalization.

Both are anti-New Deal, social safety net, and public education.

The elite are by family, crony, and pathological social Darwinism.

They have co-opted the Democratic Party and the GOP and use voting blocks as tools for power.
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Roselma Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 03:15 PM
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13. ....eh...not so fast there...not a whole lot of progressive:
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Progressive_Policy_Institute

(yup...Lieberman was listed there) Oh...and more important, look at the write up of one of their primary funders:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Lynde_and_Harry_Bradley_Foundation

so...the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation helped to fund Reagan, Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Insititute...

follow the money


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