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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 06:03 PM
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OH NO! OH GOD, NO! "Fiorina says she would limit herself to 2 terms"...OH NO, OH GOD! NO! NO, GOD!
Fiorina says she would limit herself to 2 terms

http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_15525138?nclick_check=1

By JUDY LIN Associated Press writer
Posted: 07/15/2010 02:26:22 PM PDT
Updated: 07/15/2010 02:26:23 PM PDT

SACRAMENTO, Calif.—Republican U.S. Senate candidate Carly Fiorina says she would be willing to limit her tenure in the Senate to two, six-year terms if she succeeds in unseating Democrat Barbara Boxer this fall.

The former chief executive of Hewlett-Packard Co. said Thursday that 12 years is long enough to make a difference in Washington, D.C.

In offering a contrast to Boxer, Fiorina says she considers herself a citizen-politician who happens to have business experience. This is her first run for public office.

Boxer, who is 69, is seeking her fourth term in the Senate after serving a decade in the House.

Fiorina, who is 55, made her comments to reporters after speaking to a group of small-business owners during a campaign stop in Sacramento.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 06:06 PM
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1. I wish they all were limited to two terms.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 06:08 PM
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2. I don't
Had Paul Wellstone lived, I surely wanted him to have a third term.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 06:10 PM
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5. I'd make that trade.
One or two good ones every few decades aren't worth entrenching the 50-60 horrible ones that are willing to sell themselves in order to get re-elected.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 06:13 PM
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8. Yeah, but let's not assume that their replacements would be better
Newt and the Contract-on-America gang showed up in '94 as a bunch of fresh faces...

...and began systematically destroying America.

The monied interests who bribe members of both parties into screwing up our country for their benefit are the ones we need to get rid of.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 06:18 PM
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12. If they are limited in the number of terms they can serve...
... they won't have the same drive to grovel at the feet of corporate interests for campaign donations. The more opportunity they have to be bought and the more opportunity to cement ties with lobbyists the worse off we all are. Cut them all off after 2 terms.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 06:20 PM
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14. You really think it takes these guys and gals twelve years to become corrupt?
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 06:31 PM
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20. I think their desperation to be reelected until they die makes them corrupt.
Senators love the lifestyle. Public service is secondary. They will anything to maintain that lifestyle, which means bowing to lobbyists and big money donors. Take away their ability to maintain that lifestyle ad infinitum and they would be a lot less likely to debase themselves.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 06:15 PM
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10. Term limits are the road to rule by perpetual lobby.
When you swap out Reps that frequently the only people in Washington with true power will be the lobbyists who never leave.

Which is kind of what you have no anyway, I'll admit, but it would be far worse with term limits.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 06:26 PM
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18. I see it differently.
The reelection rates for senators and congressmen usually hovers over 90%. Relying on name recognition and big campaign donations to get reelected it is very hard to oust an incumbent. Take away their name recognition and their ability to return favors for decades to lobbyists and suddenly elections and politics get a lot more fair.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 08:33 PM
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25. Look at Sacramento
there are TERM LIMITS there, and things have gotten that much worst.

Now I'd like to see them limited to a civil service career (20 years)... which I think would get you the best of both worlds. 12, rule by lobbyists.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 08:24 PM
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23. I wish there was no senate
representation based on logical constructs of parceled land rather than population leaves million in the country vastly under represented in the government. It may have made since when the country formed and Americans thought of themselves as a series of city-states, but in modern America it's horrible.

As for Florina I'd settle for zero and only zero terms. She sucks.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 06:08 PM
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3. I'd prefer we limit Ms. Fiorina to obscurity; the sooner, the better.
Edited on Thu Jul-15-10 06:10 PM by blondeatlast
What other employment opportunities exist for her?
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 06:09 PM
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4. Just like Sue Colins promised. (Sen-ME)
She's planning on her 4th term now. They lie.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 06:10 PM
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6. So the seniority concept is just lost on her.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 06:12 PM
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7. Wants to run for President. n/t
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Dr Morbius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 06:15 PM
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9. I wouldn't count Barbara Boxer out just yet.
She's a feisty one. Fiorina has money but otherwise can't stand against a great woman like Senator Boxer.
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 06:21 PM
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17. In a normal year, Fiorina wouldn't have a shot.
Heck... she wouldn't have even considered the race.

No... Boxer is far from "out" at this point... but that race is at best a tossup now, when anyone who thought there was even a 5% chance of losing it a year or so ago would have been considered nuts.
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activa8tr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 06:17 PM
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11. she considers herself a citizen-politician who happens to have business experience????
Edited on Thu Jul-15-10 06:19 PM by activa8tr
Like throwing HP into the tank???

This woman is much like GWB.. making her failures look like successes! Republicanspeak... newspeak.....LYING!!!!
Dangerous!
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 07:01 PM
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22. Almost makes you want to check the link to see if it came from "The Onion," eh?
I read that line and just couldn't bring myself to react. If she can "consider herself" to be that woman with a straight face, I pity her more than I want to ridicule her...and I say that as someone who worked as a contractor for a month and a half during her "reign," at a time where I was surrounded by more miserable, depressed, bitter S.O.B.s than in all of my previous jobs.

She's got business experience, all right.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 06:20 PM
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13. How about 0 terms, just to be on the safe side.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 06:20 PM
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15. Do you know how much damage that harpy would do in 12 years?
I really, really hope she fails miserably. California deserves better than a failed executive who wants to do the same to the country.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 06:20 PM
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16. what an angel....bwhahahahahaaa
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 06:29 PM
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19. I've got a better number for her - Zero nt
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 06:32 PM
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21. Arrogant, egotistical, incompetent fool
First she is assuming she will win, secondly assuming the voters would want her back for a second term! I hope this is a landslide on Boxer's side. Wish I was back in CA just so I could vote against Fiorina.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 08:30 PM
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24. I saw that today and had to smile.
Hopefully all the voters will have the last laugh and limit her to 0 terms.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 09:01 PM
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26. Let's limit her to 0 instead
:P
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