Here are my predictions

[Monique1]

The Dems will lose the house and senate in 2010 and will lose the presidency in 2012. Dems are so busy throwing each other under the bus that the issues are being lost. One example is Harry Reid throwing Obama under the bus, all Reid needs to do is take a good look in the mirror at himself. We have an attorney general in my state throwing Dems under the bus, we have Dems who won't unify. Dems are not supporting each other. I could go on and on. We have no progressive radio - again, Dems don't support. We have Dems tearing the party apart. You look at the republican party - they are having their internal problems but when push comes to shove - they are like fly paper.

[Warpy]

1. Huh?

[JoePhilly]

2. I hope you are wrong ... but we Dems do seem to love failure.

[Monique1]

4. Don't we though

that is what bothers me.

[meegbear]

3. Now let's ask a real expert ...

[Monique1]

5. That is why I get ticked

when people don't want to vote. The decision is ours, do you want republicans or democrats in charge. I know that many are having problems right now, I am too but too stay home on election day is just plain lazy. There are issues to vote on -

[Bluebear]

6. 'I am too but too stay home on election day is just plain lazy' - who told you to stay home?

[shraby]

7. I personally don't like fly-paper..one always gets their hair

stuck to it.
It will be a miracle if Dems lose any seats this fall. The republican party is nuts beyond belief..also the less nutty ones tend to put party before country...bad shit.

[Monique1]

9. Come to my state

It will be a miracle if any Dem wins in this state in the Fall. 1070 has the state for all republicans where before that there was a fighting chance.

[Bluebear]

8. "Call me now!"

Just reminiscing.

[racaulk]

10. "With An Authentic Shaman!"

I think the only accurate word in that phrase was "an." :rofl:

I loved her TV commericals, though. Funny stuff!

[Monique1]

11. Actually I am watching what is happening in other states

the repukes own the issues and the Dems are not fighting back.

[eleny]

32. lol!

[Freddie Stubbs]

12. The House is possible, the Senate is unlikely, and the Presidential election is too far off to

predict.

[kenny blankenship]

13. I make no predictions but I say look at the ledger

What are Democratic issues? What are traditional Democratic principles and constituencies? Put those in columns A and B. Now in column C put down what Democratic politicians are actually doing.

Do A and B get you to C? Anywhere even close?
Does what the party actually pursues when in power match up at all with whom it asks for support and what they need and what the party has long said it believes in?

The fuck it does.

And so a political party divided against itself falls apart. Just like you would expect a party to do if it persisted in screwing its faithful. The Republicans' policies screw their base over, but they all are brainwashed to believe that these are actually good policies for them, and the Republicans do, as a Party, basically what they promise to do, as damaging and hateful as that may be, instead of basically the opposite of what they promise to do. And when they are the opposition party they actually OPPOSE us. It may look simple to the point of being simpleminded but in its way it works. Its downfall is that when they implement their policies in full, disaster is never far behind.

The Democrats' strategy is this: Take the suckers' votes in November, and come January sell them out to the same interests that fund the Republican Party. When election time draws nigh, talk about how the Republicans are evil and how Democratic constituencies have nowhere else to turn to for protection.

Meanwhile things get worse and worse. The difference is mainly one of speed, not direction.

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[Fire Walk With Me]

15. So long as Americans expect the President to do everything for them

there will be trouble.

Obama has been attempting to get us to unify in positive directions, but we still sit around expecting others to take responsibility for us. Our world is our resonsibility.

[MerryBlooms]

16. My 'go to' progressive radio page

http://radiotime.com/channel/c_57925/Progressive.aspx

[racaulk]

17. I'm not sure.

Considering the seats that are "for grabs" and the large majority that already exists for our caucus, I have a hard time seeing a scenario, mathematically speaking, where Republicans retake the Senate in 2010.

A change in control of the House is certainly possible.

The Presidency? 2 1/2 years is a lifetime in politics, and ANYTHING can happen to change the dynamics in that upcoming race. I think it's waaaaaay too early to make a confident prediction on that one, but for the record, I hope your prediction is wrong. :)

[Monique1]

18. I'm also looking at the money

Sarah Palin and the teabagger party is also a front for the republican party. Also, the corporate money.

[LWolf]

19. "Throwing Obama under the bus."

:rofl:

That's funny. Obama's in the limo. The rest of us are under the bus, and he, and the neoliberal Democrats in Congress, put us there.

We may well lose everything in '12. If we do, it won't be the fault of those under the bus. It will be the fault of those neoliberal Democrats that put us there.

[Monique1]

21. Obama might be in a Limo

but there is a blue democrat driving it.

[LWolf]

23. Yes. One he appointed to do so. nt

[WingDinger]

20. All the repubs have is Obama agenda repeal.

Obama caused all the problem. Just cut all the dems have done including FDR, and we will live in lilly white splendor. If we cannot ruin that illogic in debate, we deserve to suffer and get sold into slavery in Babylon. There are no americans in rethugthink, there are us, and them. If we dont hit their stupidity square in the face, screw us.

[damntexdem]

22. Venezuela will successfully invade Florida in 2012.

They'll sell it to Honduras at fire-sale prices in 2015 -- too expensive to rehab.

And Bolivia will complete the conquest of Colorado in 2019.

And when Vermont surrenders to Finland, it will all be gone.

So what's your problem? ;-)

[Monique1]

24. My thing is

while we throw everyone under the bus on our side - what are we doing with the republicans? Don't tell me, they are a frail bunch of ignorant people who we don't dare oppose.

[Monique1]

25. I see all kinds of anti Obama and Dems threads and posts

but very seldom see anti Republicans, why is that?

[David__77]

26. It's possible. But in no way should that encourage defeatism.

You cannot view politics as a question principally of election cycles. We need to transform the country culturally and ideologically through a massive struggle. Elections is only one component of that. Time is on our side. We needn't be impatient.

[cali]

27. all are highly unlikely

[branders seine]

28. one and only one under-the-bus throwing matters enough to hurt the Dems at the polls.

The Obama administration threw everyone left of center and their entire agenda under the bus, beginning even before the Inaugural.

[Monique1]

29. Did you vote for Obama?

[branders seine]

31. I *volunteered* for Obama, canvassed for him,

voted for him, and cried uncontrollable tears of joy when he won.

He was not my first choice in the early primaries, but once he won the nomination, his signs went up in my windows and on my property.

[marions ghost]

30. whatever

:eyes:

[FrenchieCat]

33. Might end up that way.

Oh well, then folks can scream till they are blue in the face,
and no one will give a fuck.....and neither will I.

[grahamhgreen]

34. The pro-corporatist/pro-war dems are tearing us apart. Obama needs to get progressive. Period.

There is no room to move on being anti-torture, etc.