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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 11:34 PM
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Feinstein opposes pot legalization measure
(07-12) 17:03 PDT Sacramento, Calif. (AP) --

California's senior U.S. senator has agreed to participate in the campaign opposing a ballot initiative that would legalize the recreational use of marijuana and tax commercial pot sales.

Public Safety First, the committee working to defeat Proposition 19 on the November ballot, said Monday that Senator Dianne Feinstein would be listed among the measure's official opponents in the election information guide the state mails to registered voters.

Feinstein is not the only prominent Democrat speaking out against the initiative. Senator Barbara Boxer and Attorney General Jerry Brown, the party's nominee for governor, also have said they are against it.

The California Democratic Party's executive committee is scheduled to vote on its endorsements this weekend.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/07/12/state/n170342D09.DTL&type=politics#ixzz0tX9g2BqL

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/07/12/state/n170342D09.DTL&type=politics


Yet another reason not to support Feinstein. Why am I not suprised?
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 11:36 PM
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1. Might help her win though.
Politics, man. I wonder if it was ever pure.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 11:41 PM
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4. Yeah, but when Politics destroy a country a little more each day...
it's kind of suicidal to refuse to even consider if the pure thingy could be the cure.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 11:42 PM
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6. Might help her lose as well.
We're ahead, and the real campaign hasn't even begun. We're registering people to vote daily.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 11:50 PM
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7. she's not running for anything this year
i wish she would retire :(
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 12:09 AM
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8. She'll get money from the 'law and order' corwd.
It's just another way for the party that I've supported all my life to throw me under the bus.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 11:38 PM
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2. caging americans over thier favorite plant, meanwhile alcohol kills people everyday
disgusting
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knownothing Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 11:38 PM
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3. Well
I would actually love to see all drugs legalized. Then we could focus our energy on rehabilitating drug users rather than punishing them, and maybe allowing people to actually go through places like the Daniel Boone national forest without fear that they'll stumble upon somebody's pot plot and get killed by a booby trap.

Besides, it would end all the drug turf wars that get people shot in cities. How many crimes are drug related somehow?
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 12:13 AM
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9. Re: drug related crime; If you include alcohol, maybe 80-90% of all crime
has some drug related aspect.

Keeping drugs illegal keeps a lot of cops and judges employed, and keeps a lot of bankers and law enforcement types rich from bribe money and money laundering.

mark
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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 11:42 PM
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5. I'm sure her and/or her hubby own tons of big pharm stock...
...which would be affected negatively by legalizing pot. She's never taken a principled stand on anything before.... why start now?
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 12:22 AM
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10. How many of the prominent Democrats against this bill
have weed in their home right now either legally as medecine in California, or illegally as a recreational drug? How many of them have possessed cannabis at some time in the past??? why the hell do they want to continue punishing growers and sellers of a plant that people can have 28 grams of and risk a fine of no more than 100 dollars???? why do they want to keep losing out on tax money? does our weed really help us to think outside of the box?
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 12:25 AM
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12. So true.
Jorge Cervantes spoke at the Spring Cup at Okersterdam U and the first thing he said was, "In Spain, zero of my friends are in prison for cannabis."

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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 12:46 AM
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14. because in spain it is legal to grow all you want
it is legal to circulate with 50 grams on you, thats right 50 grams or less and the cops cant take it, you can also grow all you want at your own home and possess all you want at home. if you sell 50 grams or less to all your clients you never have anything to worry about as no one can get shaken down and you need only hide the actual money changing hands
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 12:50 AM
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15. In Ca there is no limit-
if you are a medical cannabis user that is. Less than an ounce is basically a traffic ticket for those that don't have a medical recommendation.

With a little work, this year all of that will change for the better here, and then the rest of the country will follow.
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LawnKorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 05:45 AM
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19. Marijuana is the largest cash crop in California

    Marijuana is both untaxed and unregulated. We have California, cash strapped and begging for money, while they continue to spend vast sums of money on enforcement.

    Legalize pot, tax it to the limit, and stop throwing good money down the rat hole of enforcement. The prison system is for real criminals like child molesters, not somebody selling a pound of grass on their kitchen table.

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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 12:23 AM
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11. DiFi lost my vote long ago.
Last time she ran, I voted for a Democrat primary challenger, then voted for the Green Party candidate in the general.

She sucks! Too bad she isn't sucking on a joint. :smoke:
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 12:28 AM
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13. I can't wait to vote her out in a few years. Never liked her. Sorry. Hope they run a progressive ro
Edited on Tue Jul-13-10 12:28 AM by krabigirl
against her.
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 01:35 AM
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16. Isn't it time...
... that "mainstream" Democrats found the courage to oppose the War on Drugs?

It's not as if the polls don't support getting rid of it, as well as history, common sense, economics, etc. etc. etc.

Hell, Obama has his "look at me I'm smoking pot and I'm cool" pictures from his youth... Bill Clinton half-admitted being a toker... if pot smokers can end up as President of the United States, it's obviously not as bad as would be necessary to justify the police state.

So where's the courage to lead on this issue?
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 01:58 AM
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18. Yeah well they don't have the courage for health care, nor keeping banks from using your deposits
Edited on Tue Jul-13-10 02:13 AM by kenny blankenship
as play money in hyper leveraged hedge fund style trading desks and derivatives schemes, nor the courage to end persecution of gay people in the military, nor the courage to restore your 4th amendment rights, nor to investigate how they were shredded by the previous admin, who should literally be in jail for what they did, nor the courage to end the dumbest fucking war in history, nor - well - you name it they don't have the courage for it. So you can see how ending a perpetual state of internal, domestic warfare that pits the legal system and police powers of society against the poor, and which terrorizes the middle classes to drive them away from making any political alliances with the poor, and thus serving to drive them into the arms of the ruling class, would be something they don't quite have the nuts to take on.

Oh, except for cutting your social security benefits. They are clearly screwing their courage up for that one, and I hope they all end up on stakes along I-95 as a warning to their replacements.
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 01:42 AM
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17. Unfortunately, this is the kind of BS that helps to get people elected.
If she actually came out FOR the legalization of pot, it would destroy her and potentially other democrats in California. It's a ballot initiative -- the people of CA can pull this off without Feinstein. The legalization of pot in CA makes sense. It's their number one cash crop and it's not even being taxed!!! They can't afford to keep it illegal anymore.

Still, I don't like Feinstein. Just for the record.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 10:25 AM
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21. Many Dems have already come out for it.
Sometimes I really think DiFi forgets what state she serves as Senator.

Take a look-
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/08/california-dems-endorse-p_n_639933.html
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ThomThom Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 07:12 AM
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20. Come on Jerry get on board!!!!!!!!!!!!
I thought you were cool. Did being Attorney General fuck your head up? Smoke a fat one and chill if you want to be governor.
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