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miscsoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 02:56 AM
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Pornography regulation
Edited on Fri Jul-09-10 03:00 AM by miscsoc
Is there any? And why not?

From what I've read, professional pornography is rife with exploitation. A good proportion of porn "stars" have been abused in their pasts and have been exploited in their pornographic careers.

In many countries prostitution is regulated - e.g. prostitution is accepted in regulated brothels run by the prostitutes.

The needs of the horny public could be fully fulfilled with amateur porn.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 02:57 AM
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1. ....
:popcorn:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 03:03 AM
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3. Anyone remember the scene from Victor/Victoria where James Garner goes into a bar
and orders milk?

Scoot over. :popcorn:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 11:51 AM
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19. Scoot over, but I'm gonna bring my own popcorn bowl...
Edited on Fri Jul-09-10 12:12 PM by blondeatlast
:rofl:
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 03:02 AM
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2. From what you've read?
Wy don't you let us read it too? Give us a link. Don't bogart it all yourself!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 03:05 AM
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 03:11 AM
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5. IBTL
:popcorn:
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costahawk1987 Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 03:14 AM
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6. I would have argued about this 1 year ago!
But you're absolutely correct. If any of the girls in my family were treated in such a manner, Freddy Kruger would have nightmares of me.
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 03:18 AM
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7. Yes they are regulated to an extent - 2257 records must be kept for each performer
Age and consent documents. That's all that is required by law.
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 04:33 AM
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8. "Amateur" porn is filled with abuse and exploitation as well.
A good share of it is simply rape on film. Sometimes you see the violence and coercion and sometimes you don't, but it's often there.
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Regret My New Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 06:30 AM
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9. O'rly? A good share?
Where do you see this at? It must be something you have to seek out, because I rarely ever see anything like that... I'm sure if I searched for "rape porn", I'd find it, but I'd rather not.. That, to me, means that a 'good share' of the porn is not of that type.
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uncommon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 08:48 AM
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15. Just because something isn't labeled "rape" doesn't mean
it isn't rape.
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Regret My New Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 09:19 AM
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17. Of course, but how is it identified?
If there are no obvious markers, such as it be labeled as such or there being violence or obvious signs of coercion, are we to just assume that it is rape? To say that a good portion of homemade amateur porn is rape, must mean there are ways to discover this, right? Or is it just assumptions based on some peoples' personal views of porn and sex?
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uncommon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 11:07 AM
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18. I actually don't feel the need to label it...
since regardless of the level or coercion required, it is still oppressive and contributes heavily to relegating women to the sex class.

I adore sex - but I don't get off on other people's oppression and degradation, no matter how voluntary it appears to be.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 11:59 AM
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22. The whole of XTube refutes your argument n/t
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Regret My New Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 12:25 PM
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28. The problem I have with that is...
Edited on Fri Jul-09-10 12:25 PM by Regret My New Name
I cannot find how it explains female initiated amateur porn, or in the cases in which the female is clearly the one who is command of the situation.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 08:17 PM
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35. Please consider joining
our political action committee, the Organization of Religious Groups Against Smutty Material (ORGASM). We seek to wipe out pornography.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 08:39 PM
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37. Sorry. I already have my plate full with my creationist lobby group.
The Religious Institute for Making Jesus the Omega of Biology.

RIMJOB.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 07:05 AM
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10. 'amateur porn' just means they're not getting paid for it.
Doesn't that sounds like "exploitation" to you? I say fuck the prudes and leaves Uncle Sam's hands off of porn. Legalizing and regulating prostitution? Absolutely. Should have been done long ago.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 12:17 AM
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45. Lance says "fuck the prudes"!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:




Sounds like the title for a porn flick.


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Brewman_Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 08:11 AM
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11. IBTL
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Fla_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 08:27 AM
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12. This is useless w/o pictures. X-)
But, it is an interesting topic. I'll volunteer to do some research, and will get back to you with my findings. Let's see, professional vs. amateur porn.... :evilgrin:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 08:36 AM
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14. agreed. need to see the well packaged and hung of pro vs amatuer. let us know. nt
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Fla_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 08:56 AM
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16. Well.....
as an amateur... :hi:

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uncommon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 08:31 AM
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13. "The needs of the horny public"
Puke. My arousal does not depend on the exploitation of others.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 11:54 AM
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20. "Hobby: being awesome."
Uh-huh.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 11:59 AM
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21. "Gender: undeclared"
:D
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Dogtown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 12:11 PM
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24. Xin Loi,
but I don't find your outrage believable.
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Regret My New Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 12:27 PM
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29. I'm thinking the same.
but ya never know. I do know that there is a small minority of people who have such feelings that go to such extremes.
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Dogtown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 01:03 PM
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31. Yes, some folks have personal issues.
This 1 just feels thin, though.
Scripted, even.
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miscsoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 12:02 AM
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41. speak for yourself buddy
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 12:12 AM
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44. i think the poster did exactly that. nt
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 12:05 PM
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23. If there are problems with exploitation and abuse
then pass laws and prosecute the exploitation and abuse. I don't think that's a reason to shut down all porn.

But in general, I'm all for democratic user-generated porn.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 12:18 PM
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25. Keep the kids out of it and make sure contracts are honored seems about right
What did you have in mind to control the behavior of consenting adults.

Clearly, if people are some how being forced then that should be dealt with accordingly but overall, how is it any of our business?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 12:21 PM
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26. Could there be a better industry to show the power of unions?
Yes, I'm making a double entendre, but I'm serious as well.

Decent working conditions?
Contracts?
Consent?
Collective bargaining?

Perfect.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 12:36 PM
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30. the countries that have legalized prostitution have created greater problems with the legalization
Edited on Fri Jul-09-10 12:37 PM by seabeyond
the criminal element and abuse continues to exist and they found in greater force because the legalized part of the business makes it harder to address the criminal element. it worked wonders for the criminal. sweden or switzerland have decided to adjust their laws accordingly by legalizing the womens part yet criminalizing the john.

the porn industry has the abusive element and no amount of unionizing or laws past will element the abuse. it is an environment rife with vulnerability to abuse.

imo

that being said.... i am not much into this argument. porn is what it is. people participate for whatever reason they have. their choice.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 08:13 PM
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33. Absolutely. All workers should unionize.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 12:21 PM
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27. Turns me on. Tighter!
just kidding :rofl:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 02:10 PM
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32. What is it you want to regulate, and how?
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miscsoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 12:00 AM
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40. i suppose, regulation to guard against exploitation
in the worker/employer relationship etc
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 08:14 PM
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34. Maybe a stern looking woman in heels and glasses could do the job
but very soon her mood softens remarkably and.... well I don't want to spoil how it ends
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 08:34 PM
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36. Damn dude! For a minute that sounded like an incipient Sarah Palin fantasy!
I thought I was going to have to head south for an emergency intervention!
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 09:37 PM
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38. Didn't Larry Flynt put out a Sarah Palin porno parody a while back
Called Who's Nailin' Palin or something?
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miscsoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 11:59 PM
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39. yeah, it's not that good
it is compromised by an unnecessary scene involving "todd" fucking some campaign assistant character...

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miscsoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 12:06 AM
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42. and the palin impression is uselless
never thought i'd dislike a porno on the basis of the acting quality but there you go
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 12:35 PM
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47. There's acting in pornos?
This is news to me.
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SunnySong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 12:08 AM
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43. This thread is useless without pictures.
:hide:
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 12:40 AM
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46. no one seems to be in charge
from what i have seen
a lot of people with issues working them out
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