Kucinich: ‘We are losing our nation to lies about the necessity of war’

[tekisui]

Source: The Raw Story

In Afghanistan, corruption is rife. It is so abundant, in fact, that a senior US lawmaker declared on Monday that she'd be freezing $3.9 billion in Afghan aid dollars until the situation is addressed.

Rep. Nita Lowey's declaration of principle was made in response to a Wall Street Journal report that claimed over $3 billion has been legally shipped through the airport in Kabul over just the last three years, leading investigators to believe much of it comes from U.S. aid dollars being diverted by corrupt officials.

Rep. Dennis Kucinich, making a speech to the House of Representatives on Monday, had a few choice words to describe the situation.

"We are losing our nation to lies about the necessity of war," the iconoclastic Democrat opined.

(snip)

"Where they allegedly get the money is one of the questions under investigation."

Speaking before Congress, Kucinich raised the specter of the $12 billion shipped in pallets from the United States to Iraq just after the Bush administration's "shock and awe" bombing campaign.

"Vanity Fair reported in 2004 that 'at least $9 billion' of the cash had 'gone missing, unaccounted for,'" he noted. "$9 billion."

Kucinich continued: "

Last week, the BBC reported that 'the US military has been giving tens of millions of dollars to Afghan security firms who are funneling the money to warlords.' Add to that a corrupt Afghan government underwritten by the lives of our troops
 ... And now reports indicate that Congress is preparing to attach $10 billion in state education funding to a $33 billion spending bill to keep the war going.

 Back home, millions of Americans are out of work, losing their homes, losing their savings, their pensions and their retirement security.

"We are losing our nation to lies about the necessity of war. Bring our troops home. End the war. Secure our economy."

more: http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0629/kucinich-we-losing-nation-lies-necessity-war/

[mdmc]

1. losing, no

lost yes..

[YOY]

9. George Carlin was right...

And the proof is in the puddin'.

[mdmc]

39. The proof of the pudding is in the eating

-g. harrison..

[WinkyDink]

106. I believe the adage is older than the "g. harrison" I'm familiar with.

[mdmc]

114. i did not know that

[Hissyspit]

13. VIDEO Here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x480154

[Rosa Luxemburg]

88. Can someone explain why this is happening?

[cwydro]

109. yes. nt

[Vinnie From Indy]

2. +1000

The reasons stated for fighting the war in Afghanistan are so over the top ridiculous that it can only be described as madness. The war in Afghanistan lays bare many of the cancers that are working to weaken and kill this nation. One such cancer is the wholesale complicity of our corporate media.

[chimpymustgo]

4. Madness. Cancer. Complicity. Killing this nation.

[midnight]

3. Nothing more important than the national security of our

country. Bring them home-now.

[Mimosa]

5. This is part of why I'm not happy with the administration.

Why must our people in Afghanistan keep getting killed and injured? This is as much a lost cause as was Vietnam. Itwas bad when it was bush's war, it's bad as Obama's war. Kucinich is right.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

92. Somebody has a lot of 'splaining to do

[ixion]

6. and to the notion of 'wars' on abstractions, e.g. 'drugs' and 'terror'

Spot on as usual, Dennis. :applause:

[malaise]

7. Apparently war does not run up deficits

and not taxing the rich is good for the economy.

Go Dennis!

[kenny blankenship]

12. The war will pay for itself. There's a trillion dollars in batteries in the hills of Afghanistan!

They also have a lottery! Don't you liberal purist leftbaggers understand anything about political realities or finance or military strategy? With that trillion dollars in hand we could pay for our war onmilitary assistance mission to Afghanistan, and have seed capital for 5 more wars.

[malaise]

30. Yah think

:D

[pattmarty]

110. PLEASE............ don't use that ass hole term "leftbagger". It not only........

........sounds dumb, but makes a "liberal" that uses it look like a dumbfuck and gives credence to those crazy teabaggers by co-opting one of their words.

[Bandit]

8. He saw something in the sky he could not explain so he is obviously a nut job.

At least according to so many smug know everything people I have seen post here.

[gratuitous]

22. And the heresy! The heresy . . .

Imagine, dissing war in the land of the High Church of Redemptive Violence! Unthinkable! Absurd!

[donco6]

10. $3 billion. And I'm fighting for a grant for $25,000 for a playground.

A grant that I have to match.

Disgusting.

[madrchsod]

21. 15.5 billion is the amount your state has given to the wars since 2001.......

what minuscule amount is 25,000 of 15.5 billion for the public good?

[Mimosa]

57. Madrchsod, that's shocking

Madrchsod, where can I find a state by state graph of war spending? Imagine that combined with a state by state graph of casualties. *sad*

[Rosa Luxemburg]

91. yet the GOP cry that funding healthcare is too expensive?

[donco6]

93. That did not make me feel better.

:)

The truth hurts, I guess. Chee-rist. What we could have done with that kinda money.

[stray cat]

11. we are losing alot of other things he should pay attention to

[tekisui]

14. I don't expect you'll clarify that? Nonsense post-and-run.

[rhett o rick]

99. Put this in your pipe Jack. Obama is waging war, just like Bush.

Obama has embraced the horrible Bush DOJ. Obama loves the Patriot Act and domestic spying just like Bush. Obama is using rendition just like Bush. Obama is kissing the corporate asses just like Bush. Obama seems to think that the war crimes of Bush/Cheney are just fine.

Answer me one of the following:
Why doesnt the Pres dump DADT? Why?
Why doesnt the Pres fix the corrupt DOJ?
Why did the Pres go with Bernanke and Summers? Why?
Why continue the wars?
Why keep Guantanamo open?
Why let BP dictate the actions for the recovery, when they were guilty of negligence?

[Amonester]

101. Obama has watched movies/clips of JFK's last moments in the evil empire.

That's the only rationale I can imagine, because I profoundly believe he's a GOOD man, but he loves his wonderful family and wants to minimize the risks of being JFKed by the Al-CIA-da evil empire traitors.

If someone single, progressive, and extremely brave could be elected POTUS, perhaps these things would end. The only other way would be to launch a country-wide hunger strike of 95% of the U.S. population for a month or two, but that's unrealistic: too many distractions...

[rhett o rick]

116. I agree that I believe that Pres Obama is a good man. So the answer to my questions must be that he

is incapable of change. Do to forces stronger than himself.

[pattmarty]

111. Ooooh boy, you're getting very close to being "deleted" my friend.

[rhett o rick]

115. Thanks for the warning. But I ask that you dont dismiss my questions just because they

are aimed at our Pres. I worked hard to get him elected and literally cried when he was inaugurated. And of course he is better than Bush by a long way. But to survive we must stop the momentum of our democracy crashing. The questions I asked are honest questions. I would like some one to answer the questions honestly instead of narking at me (not you). We cant make the mistake of blindly following Pres Obama just because he is a Democrat.

We are in a war vs. greed. Pres Obama has to take more action if we are to succeed. Time is running out.

[pattmarty]

124. I totally agree, it was sarcasm. I think most of us at that famous place.....

...."The Loony Left" all want and wanted Obama to succeed on his very moderate campaign promises. A lot of us were hoping for another FDR or LBJ, but hey, I would have just been fine with the promises of his campaign. It is really fucking funny that now "we" are being labeled "leftbaggers" (a truly fucked up rip of a fucked "group") or even things I've seen like racist. What the fuck? All I want is a President that at the very least tries to keep his promises (not just "some"). I really and others were hoping for an FDR, but what we got is a black Bill Clinton.

[Larry Ogg]

37. When societies are taken over and controlled by predators they loose a sense wright and wrong...

in things like objective reality and the essence of conscience, this lose coincides with a rise in things like pathological narcissism, greed, self-centeredness, nationalism, jingoism, xenophobia, chauvinism and hysteria etc. Along with this, the general population will see a loss of human rights and social services, except the penal system will flourish because of stricter laws and heavy handed enforcement will ensure a loss of freedom.

And while all of this and much more is going on, the predators are driving the drumbeat of war while simultaneously looting the national treasure, i.e. money, gold, resources, personal property etc. Of course all of this insane mayhem is quite legal because the predators over time have built up enough stolen capital to buy off and stack the law in their favor, eventually immoral acts that are illegal for most become legal for a few; this is a sign that predators have taken over and control society. And they care not for the life, liberty or the pursuit of happiness of anyone who has a conscience, except for the fact that you may plow and plant the field that feeds them or be capable of weaving the rope they will use to hang you and your neighbor with, your value is that of an inanimate pawn. And when you are no longer capable of slaving for them or killing for them you will be nothing more than a worthless consumer of valuable resources, and they will ensure that you loose everything legally.

The end of the story is that there are a lot more things to pay attention too then meet’s the eye…

[Solly Mack]

15. k/r

[Vattel]

16. I have an Afghan friend who, like Obama's national security team,

believes that if the US left Afghanistan now Afghanistan would descend into chaos. He cares about his nation and hopes that the U.S. will not leave in the near future. But even he concedes that it's not clear that we will succeed or that our remaining there is in the national interest of the US. Kucinich is right. There are alternative uses of the resources we are expending on this war that would be a far better investment.

[Vinnie From Indy]

18. Your friend is wrong

He is wrong because the history of Afghanistan has never really been one that could be described as stable. That is only true, of course, if you believe constantly shifting alliances between the tribal peoples of Afghanistan manifested in regional warlords and groups like the Taliban is NOT an example of national stability. It is simply incorrect to describe the withdrawal of US troops as a prelude to "chaos" because that implies that there was "stability" in the region in the first place. The most likely scenario after a US withdrawal is a return to the status quo of regional warlords and the Taliban.

If the threat from Al Queda was real, which I doubt, then there are many ways that the US could deal with them without having to resort to these fruitless nation-building military exercises.

The brutal, unpleasant fact of the Afghanistan War is that the Obama Admin. is willing to perpetuate it using the same lies and deception that was used by the GW Bush Admin. Quite simply, they are more afraid of right wing attacks about being soft on national defense and terrorism than they are of average Americans rising up to demand an end to the war. Sadly, they are right about the average American not having the general will to vote them out of office. To sharpen that point a bit further, the Obama Admin. knows that they have a very powerful ally in their corner in regard to perpetuating this war - the US media. The mainstream media has become merely a high-tech, very refined, 24/7, pervasive propaganda platform whose primary goal now seems to be protecting the status quo and the very tiny elite that benefit from that condition. The same skills used to sell disposable diapers are now used to protect and defend these wars of empire.

In the end, your friend is putting forth an idea that has as it's fundamental underpinning the falsehood that Afghanistan was at one time a functioning, stable country . One can easily argue that not only has the country never been a stable, functioning state by Western standards, it isn't stable now even with our massive military presence.

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[Vinnie From Indy]

28. Are you asking the fair-minded readers to guess why you feel that way ?

Or, do you have something other than snark to offer to support your comment?

I find it mildly amusing that posters like yourself appear to believe that one-liners and snark pass for intelligent debate.

[pundaint]

32. I'm thinking it will be difficult to refute your accurate statement.

[Robb]

34. Intelligent debate starts from a premise both parties are well-informed.

You appear to have cribbed your Afghanistan history notes from a cracker jacks box. And don't believe Al Qaeda exists, and countless other dubious starting points.

No, no.

[Vinnie From Indy]

36. Well I think our little exchange has proved, to me at least, that you are

completely unprepared or unwilling to debate beyond the level of the sixth grade. I guess that until you decide to actually address the specifics of my post with counter-points we should leave it to the fair-minded DU readers to conclude for themselves which post carries the day.

Cheers!

[arcadian]

41. DU's self proclaimed Afghanistan scholar!

[Robb]

81. You'll have to remind me which one you are.

[G_j]

50. 1000 US soldiers per one Al Qaeda

yea, they exist.

[Vattel]

33. Well, stability and order are matters of degree.

My friend believes that the levels of order and stability in Afghanistan would decline precipitously if the US were to leave. He thinks that the key to increase those levels is to reduce the corruption in the federal govt., but he admits that that is not at all easy to do. Is he right? I don't know enough about the situation in Afghanistan to hazard a guess.

[Mimosa]

60. Think how much money 'we've' been investing in Afghanistan

'We're' building schools, roads and clinics there while neglecting our own. :(

[flyarm]

102. ahh and as recently reported on my local news..we are protecting the" poppy fields!"

yes our local Fla news showed our soldiers sitting just outside a huge poppy field protecting it!!

gave you the warm fuzzy kind of feeling..ya know..

[YOY]

40. If he truly cared about his nation he'd understand that after 8+ years they'd better be ready.

If they cannot stand on their own by now...then they are truly screwed for all of eternity.

[Vattel]

48. The sad thing is that when Bush was in offcie

there was a real possibility for improving things in Afghanistan. Obama was right during the campaign when he said that Bush took his eyes off the ball in Afghanistan by invading Iraq. Now things have deteriorated to the point where success is much less likely than it could have been.

[KansasVoter]

44. Big deal. He is wrong!

[Vattel]

47. I didn't say that he is right.

I would be interested in evidence that he is wrong, though.

[Enthusiast]

56. Better to have chaos there

than here.

[Vattel]

84. Whatever that means.

I think people are misreading my post. My point is that even if my friend is correct about the consequences of withdrawal (I don't know if he is) we should still withdraw because the benefits of staying are highly uncertain and the costs are substantial. There are better ways to invest billions of dollars.

[rhett o rick]

117. Sorry but that's a very ignorant view. First of all there is chaos now.

Second, when we leave the chaos may increase. But that will happen if we leave now or in a decade. History hasnt proven that an occupying arm can ever be successful.

Third, when we leave, we will be removing a huge target for the insurgents. Maybe the chaos will be less.

Fourth, this war is killing our country. It wont help anyone if our country crumbles.

[hi there]

125. I love these people...I would like to know who paid them to say that.

Probably of some elite class, like some of the Iraqis. What a load...

[liberation]

17. When has the US not been involved directly or indirectly in military action for more than a decade

during the past century (at least)?


In fact, given our pattern, track record, and penchant as a country to wage warfare... I would be worried for the future of this country the other way around: if we had peace.

[KonaKane]

78. I researched that once. I was horrified to find that

not only has there been one senseless military campaign after another, but that it is virtually UNBROKEN in the timeline. I'm serious, I couldn't even find a year period that we were not screwing around militarily somewhere.

There is something incredibly wrong with that. It is NOT a normal state, as the right wing would have you believe.

[LWolf]

19. He's right, as usual. nt

[lonestarnot]

20. Dennis!

[G_j]

23. lost

not losing, the only thing I disagree with. We lost it.

[redqueen]

24. K&R

[slipslidingaway]

26. knr n/t

[Vinca]

27. If it's true we must stay in Afghanistan to keep it from becoming

a terrorist haven again (to paraphrase Petreus), does that mean terrorists are not organizing in Somalia or dozens of other countries around the world? And, if they are, must we invade those countries and stay forever? The fact 9/11 was planned in Afghanistan is not a reason to stay there for an eternity, especially since it's now being reported there are 50 Al Qaeda members there. 50! We must be spending about a billion per terrorist plus American lives lost. Ridiculous.

[sabrina 1]

31. Starting a war to stop terrorism was one of the stupidest ideas

ever. No sane nation has ever done that. Assuming anyone supported the idea, they would know that stateless terrorists will simply move to safer territory once threatened. I'm sure that Al Queda were out of Afghanistan as soon as they knew it would be invaded. And now more have created as a result of the slaughter from these two wars.

But since neither war was about stopping terror, it's hardly worth contemplating the idiocy of such a strategy.

I couldn't agree more with you 'ridiculous'. I guess I was one of the 20% who opposed this war from the beginning.

[Greyhound]

29. K&R. Correct as usual.

[earcandle]

35. Please.... somebody hear this man! Stop these ugly affairs. Stop these wars and mercenaries. Just

Stop!

for the childrens sake if nothing else

[amborin]

38. K&R

[Catherina]

42. Rec'd. To the Hague with the war criminals

and give their enablers the French treatment for their "collaboration horizontale".

[matt819]

43. We have lost our nation for this and so much more

What's worse is that there is no light at the end of the tunnel. No one event that, if accomplished, will allow us to say that we've turned the proverbial corner. Two wars, tens of millions unemployed. Tens of millions more underpaid (seller's market), and all scraping by. Courts allowing, endorsing corporate control of just about everything, including - especially - Congress. When a quarter of the nation believes that the president is not an American citizen, you know we're lost. When the RWers support political agendas designed explicitly to exclude them, you know we're lost. When you have a democratic party splintered and democrats/liberals/progressives despairing of the work taken (or not) by a Democratic-controlled Congress, you know we're lost

[Zorra]

45. I really wish DK was President of the US. nt

[NorthCarolina]

70. +1,000,000,000

[nightrain]

46. knr. sadly, one of the only sectors doing "well" in this economy is weaponry. Dare Obama do the

right thing and get out of this quagmire?

Dennis K is correct, as he often is.

[Mimosa]

59. 'non-arms' jobs largely were outsourced to China and India

If they end these wars what are all the troops going to do for work? Work in Wal-marts for next to nothing? Deliver pizzas?

[nightrain]

86. infrastructure repair? health care? tutoring?

[unapatriciated]

118. real funding of green technology

[Greyhound]

49. ..

:kick:

[Name removed]

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[MissDeeds]

52. This post is offensive on so many levels

:thumbsdown:

[Enthusiast]

58. I believe he is portraying

the level of bias and propaganda we face in regard to Dennis.

[Swamp Rat]

62. Ta da!

:toast:

[unapatriciated]

119. lol love Blackadder

[Swamp Rat]

61. Best. Compliment. Ever.

Thank you, you made my day.

I strive VERY hard to achieve such success... I cannot thank you enough.

I am going to print your reply and show my whole family. :)






Edit: PS. THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! :hug:

[ima_sinnic]

68. lol!

:crazy:

[Enthusiast]

53. The United States is FULL

of heroin. It is ruining thousands of lives. The heroin trade ramped up by hundreds of percent since we invaded. What does this tell us? It tells us that much of the corruption is on our side.

I advocate leaving Afghanistan this very moment with no measures to protect the government. I could care less what happens to the thieving Afghani government. Get out now!

[KonaKane]

54. Dennis is right on the money.

This nation is long overdue for a knock down drag out public dialogue on our appetite for military aggression and imperialistic foreign policy.

Let it begin.

[slay]

63. Indeed

The so called "war" has to end sometime - why not now? The sooner the better.

[h9socialist]

55. I recall that Eugene V. Debs made similar observations in 1918 . . .

. . . I'd say we lost a lot of our country back then . . . anyone remember Vietnam? If Afghanistan is "losing our country to the necessities of war" then it's only a mopping-up operation!

[slay]

64. Yeah

from a socialist perspective we lost a long time ago. :( Wish we had more like Debs.

[certainot]

65. the lies start at your local limbaugh hannity megastations

and we wouldn't be in iraq or have this econ disaster (and we'd have public optionr) if those protests had happened at the 1000 rw stations that are still getting a free speech free ride to blast 50MIL people with think tank lies all day long.

[polichick]

66. Glad to see somebody in DC speaks the TRUTH - shame on those invested in lies. nt

[RoccoR5955]

67. K & R... Kucinich/Sanders 2012!

They have both been ahead of the curve for a long time. It's high time that they were our nation's leaders!

[NorthCarolina]

73. Do you really think America has the collective intelligence to support such a ticket?

The DLC New Dems and MSM would join forces to ridicule such a ticket to death. I wish it were not true, but the conservatives seem to be able to control everything to their advantage...including DU now.

[valerief]

75. Only in our dreams, alas! nt

[KG]

69. the worlds largest military, the PATRIOT act, HSA, and wars in iraq and afghanistan.

and some guy was still able to park a SUV of (faulty) explosives in time square.

the idea that the occupation of afghanistan is keeping america safe from 'terrorist' is totally ludicrous.

[Swamp Rat]

71. yep

[KansDem]

72. The United States hasn't won a war since 1945...

Korea was a stalemate (54,246 Americans killed);
Vietnam we lost (58,219 Americans killed);
Oil War I was a joke, perpetuated by Bush Sr's lies (363 Americans killed);
Oil War II and Afghanistan were lies and we are losing them (4,408 Americans killed in Iraq, 1,114 Americans killed in Afghanistan).
http://www.americanwarlibrary.com/allwars.htm

All to enrich the MIC and connected leeches...

[Pubslayer]

77. And now they want SS

So Boner wants me to put my Social Security on a pallet and ship it to Afghani warlords.


No.

[KansDem]

79. Well said!

And welcome to DU! :hi:

[valerief]

74. Wouldn't it be cheaper to ship the "good" Afghans to America to live? nt

[Rosa Luxemburg]

89. send them to Arizona?

[valerief]

120. Ha!!!!! No, those Afghans have suffered enough already. nt

[me b zola]

76. K&R

[GoddessOfGuinness]

80. Somebody help me off the fence...

On the one hand, it seems ridiculous to stay in a place where billions of dollars seem to have little effect on the current situation.

On the other hand, I wonder what happens to my Aghan sisters when we pull out. Back to the burqas? Back to being treated as basic livestock? Not allowed to earn a living, even when widowed?
And will music be banned again? Soccer?

Couldn't we leave and offer anyone there the opportunity to leave with us?

[Robb]

82. I've always liked the idea

...Although even if it were logistically possible, it would leave those who, for whatever reason, couldn't/didn't get on the plane out of there in even worse conditions.

You can't evacuate countries, really. Even small ones. It would be like saying, yeah, we could probably fly every living soul out of Haiti and drop them off in San Diego, but it wouldn't do a lot for the stability of the country left empty of anyone with a strong sense of self-preservation.

[Swamp Rat]

83. "Couldn't we leave and offer anyone there the opportunity to leave with us?"

Best solution I have heard in 9 years, ever since Rep. Barbara Lee suggested we not go there in the first place.

[Vattel]

87. It's important to keep in mind that there is little prospect of

any group enforcing any paricular way of life on the whole country. Even with the current central government in power, women are treated much worse in certain areas than others, and the government has limited control of that. The level of religious extremism can vary from one valley to the next, and it varies a lot from one ethnic group to another. I don't think our leaving would change that, although the worry is that oppression of, and acts of violence against, women might increase overall. I've been at least close to the fence if not on it for some time because the "experts" seem to disagree on what impact our presence is having. Those like Hoh say that we are fueling the violence because people are becoming insurgents and working with the Taliban specifically to fight us. Others, including Obama, seem to believe that we are a stabilizing influence and that at the very least we are needed to provide security until the Afghan security forces are up to speed and the government is able to provide the sorts of security and economic benefits to Afghans that will truly win hearts and minds. I wish I knew where the truth lies.

[rhett o rick]

100. We stuck our noses in. There is no way for us to suceed. In war you must be able to recognize

when you need to withdraw, even if it looks like a loss. There will be disastrous consequences when we leave. But staying only postpones that. But the corporatists are making billions for us to stay. That is why we are staying.

[pleah]

85. K&R

[Dinger]

90. K & R (nt)

[JournalistKev87]

94. Bush/Cheney really screwed us

2001-2009 was the beginning of the end. Why can't we shake the shadows of these asswipes? Are we really so forgone that we can't find redemption? I was hoping and changing but that fell through too bloody fast.

Maybe aliens need to help us. ;-)

[flvegan]

95. "Bring our troops home. End the war. Secure our economy."

You tell 'em, Dennis.

[Raster]

96. The war machine -- the military industrial complex -- will NOT allow peace.

Peace is not profitable. The war machine has insinuated itself into just about every industry and every state.

[Jackpine Radical]

97. As long as we keep the wars going, at such unspeakable cost

in blood, money, and destruction of the biosphere, the other side (whoever the hell they are; do we even know who we're fighting?) is winning. Just imagine--some small gangs of local insurgents are spending a few thousand dollars on roadside bombs and succeeding in causing us to waste the resources that could provide healthcare for every American (and Afghan and Iraqi, for that matter) and put every able-bodied and willing American to work building an infrastructure for the new century.

[AnArmyVeteran]

98. Dennis Kucinich is one of the FEW in Washington with any GUTS at all !

If every democrat in office was like Dennis Kucinich the democrats would be mopping the floor with the republicans. So why are all the rest so damed timid, terrified and weak? Why do they keep giving-in to the corrupt republicans when they KNOW they aren't going to get any votes from them? I'm beginning to think everything is being rigged.

[krabigirl]

103. go Dennis!

[democrank]

104. Want to see a change in public attention to Afghanistan?

Reinstate the draft.

[waronbanks]

105. Only massive protests stand a chance

of stopping this insanity.

Our soldiers are dying and getting maimed for what? A blatantly corrupt regime and drug/war lords. Thats it folks.

Meanwhile our nation is dying...literally dying around us.

[The Wizard]

107. We found, and are using,

the Roman Empire's road map to extinction.

[pattmarty]

108. I take it that Dennis Kucinich is back to "hero status" again at DU........

......Funny how that "hero to zero" shit works, ain't it? I like to compare it to a favorite sports team: When they win, their the greatest, but when they lose their bums. Just remember folks, he's one of the good guys AND you can't agree with someone 100% of the time. There are way to few of his kind in the House and Senate, MAYBE 100 total between both Houses.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

112. K&R

[Swamp Rat]

113. hey

This pic was deleted from #51. Some lady complained and it was deleted. I have posted this pic a hundred times on DU.

[1776Forever]

121. Sounds like Iraq money gone missing - Remember that? It took a woman to say "no" to this lunacy!

Here is the reminder if you forgot about Iraq money gone missing:

Audit: U.S. lost track of $9 billion in Iraq funds
Pentagon, Bremer dispute inspector general's report
Monday, January 31, 2005 Posted: 0412 GMT (1212 HKT)

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/01/30/iraq.audit/

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Nearly $9 billion of money spent on Iraqi reconstruction is unaccounted for because of inefficiencies and bad management, according to a watchdog report published Sunday.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

122. the people responsible for losing the money should be held accountable

why has this never been attended to?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

123. Who is actually responsible for this

who is doing this?