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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 03:12 PM
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Gonzales: ‘I Haven’t Really Thought About’ Habeas Corpus
Gonzales: ‘I Haven’t Really Thought About’ Habeas Corpus

Under the Bush administration, U.S. citizens can be detained as enemy combatants and arrested without being charged of any crime.

At today’s House Judiciary Committee hearing, Rep. Brad Sherman (D-CA) asked Attorney General Alberto Gonzales whether any U.S. citizens are “being held today, for over a month, who have been denied habeas corpus or access to an attorney.” Instead of giving an answer, Gonzales replied, “You’re asking me a question I hadn’t really thought about.”

Sherman then followed up and asked whether there any “U.S. citizens being held now by foreign governments or foreign organizations, without access to attorneys, as a result of rendition.” Gonzales again said, “It’s just — quite frankly, I hadn’t thought about this.”

VIDEO AND TRANSCRIPT:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/10/gonzales-habeas-2/
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 03:13 PM
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1. You go Brad - my rep finally getting off his ass and holding someone
accountable.

I might actually cough up some $$ for you next time around.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 03:14 PM
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2. Just what the hell has he thought about?
:puke: :wtf: :nuke:
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 03:14 PM
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3. He's been too busy serving pleasu..er...at the pleasure..to think period.
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 03:16 PM
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4. The Attorney General hasnt thought about habeas corpus????
mind boggle
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 03:17 PM
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5. This Administration is looking more like Rufus T. Firefly's every day
Hail Freedonia!
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 03:41 PM
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6. "No one ever could have anticipated. . ."
having the highest law enforcement official in the land who was so utterly clueless about the importance of the rule of law.

Who would never really think of doing his job, instead of covering *'s butt, and legalizing sadism.

Egads this guy is so unbelievably creepy and totally unqualified.

Ughhh
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 03:52 PM
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9.  Habeas Corpus is so pre 911.
It is one of those quaint, irrelevant concepts that is no longer needed in the Busholini Regime of the "War On Terror".
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 03:47 PM
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7. In his defense, he did say before that habeus is not a right guaranteed
by the Constitution. So, it might not be something he ever worries about if it doesn't exist in his bizarro-mind.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 07:59 PM
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13. Gonzales says the Constitution doesn't guarantee habeas corpus
Attorney general's remarks on citizens' right astound the chair of Senate judiciary panel
Bob Egelko, Chronicle Staff Writer
Wednesday, January 24, 2007

One of the Bush administration's most far-reaching assertions of government power was revealed quietly last week when Attorney General Alberto Gonzales testified that habeas corpus -- the right to go to federal court and challenge one's imprisonment -- is not protected by the Constitution.

"The Constitution doesn't say every individual in the United States or every citizen is hereby granted or assured the right of habeas,'' Gonzales told Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing Jan. 17.

Gonzales acknowledged that the Constitution declares "habeas corpus shall not be suspended unless ... in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it.'' But he insisted that "there is no express grant of habeas in the Constitution.'' ~snip~

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/01/24/MNGDONO11O1.DTL
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 03:48 PM
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8. So, let me get this straight
The nation's highest law enforcement official hasn't considered the role of habeus corpus?

Gonzo, WHAT THE FRACK HAVE YOU BEEN DOING WITH YOUR TIME?
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 04:00 PM
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10. Sweet Jesus.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:47 AM
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17. Say it again. Sad days for our Nation. n/t
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 04:02 PM
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11. Incredible. Heckuva job.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 07:33 PM
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12. Why do republicons HATE America?
Why are republicons lacking in honor?
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bonzotex Donating Member (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 09:20 PM
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14. I heard that one and was struck dumb....
Hadn't hought about it?
The Attorney General of the United States?
Habeas Corpus?
My fucking God!

How mind numbingly stupid, obtuse, unqualified and pure-wet-shit-for-brains do you have to be to get impeached in this Country?
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:31 AM
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15. So why is this guy still AG???
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:38 AM
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16. Probably true in that he obviously doesn't think about much of any fucking thing.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 11:30 AM
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18. Gonzales is saying too much.
He should just answer everything "I haven't really thought" and leave it at that since it's evident that's what is really going on.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 12:00 PM
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19. My eyes hurt now, after bulging out their sockets...
The rule of haebeus corpus is the very basis of our entire judicial system. Gonzo never read the Constitution, nor its Amendments apparently.

Article I Sect 9, 2nd pargraph spells it out quite nicely, only "Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it."

We are not in Rebellion, (yet), nor have we been Invaded, (yet). TYhose are the only two instances where H. Corpus can be induced, and only for the public Safety at the time of insurrection or invasion.

He's an asshole, and needs to go.

I'm sure gladf he wasn't a lawyer that was actually used by anyone before he became the worst AG this nation has seen, (makes me wish Ashcroft was back, at least he had some principles!). By the time you were done being defended by this asshole, you'd be on Death Row for 10 unpaid parking tickets!
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 12:40 PM
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20. Hell, I'd do a better job then Gonzo
And I'd really suck, as I'm totally unqualified to be the A.G. Then again, evidently, so is he. :eyes:
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