Two people helping with Gulf response died

[malaise]

today in separate incidents. :cry:

From Thad Allen on CNN

Look at that fugging gusher without the cap.

[Soylent Brice]

1. that's awful.

[me b zola]

2. How did they die?

Incidents. Were they on the ships at the site of the gusher?

[Subdivisions]

3. Developing story...could be heat stress. n/t

[NightWatcher]

4. Boat captain working oil spill dead from gunshot wound, Coast Guard says

http://blog.al.com/live/2010/06/boat_captain_working_oil_spill.html

U.S. Coast Guard Commander Chuck Diorio, a spokesman for the joint information center at the Mobile command post, said a boat captain who was working in the oil spill response died from a gunshot wound this morning.

"I'm very sorry to announce the death this morning of a captain in the vessel of opportunity program at Fort Morgan, Alabama," said U.S. Coast Guard Commander Chuch Diorio. "Our hearts go out to his family and the Gulf Coast community. There are many facts that need to be determined surrounding this.

[Wickerman]

5. Gunshot!

Holy Christ, this is way, way out of control.

[malaise]

6. We definitely need details

on this one.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

21. SUICIDE? or another "suicide... "

Boat captain working oil spill dead from gunshot wound, Coast Guard says

FORT MORGAN, Ala. -- A boat captain working in the oil spill response died from a gunshot wound this morning.

William Allen Kruse, born 1955, was the captain of The Rookie, a charter fishing boat normally based in Orange Beach, said Deputy Baldwin County Coroner Rod Steade .

Steade said the deckhands were on the docks and heard a gunshot and went back on and found him dead on the "flying bridge."

The boat was docked at the Gulf Shores Yacht Club & Marina at Fort Morgan, which is on the north side of Ala. 180 about 1.5 miles east of Fort Morgan.

The marina manager confirmed that the shooting had taken place there.

"I'm very sorry to announce the death this morning of a captain in the vessel of opportunity program at Fort Morgan, Alabama," said U.S. Coast Guard Commander Chuck Diorio, a spokesman for the joint information center at the Mobile command post. "Our hearts go out to his family and the Gulf Coast community. There are many facts that need to be determined surrounding this."

[jberryhill]

27. How does an assassin get off the boat and down the dock

without passing the deckhands?

[eowyn_of_rohan]

29. Exactly

wonder if we'll ever know for sure

[malaise]

30. Turns out he did kill himself

Too sad :cry:

[jberryhill]

9. In a town of a few ten thousand people, during several weeks..

It is guaranteed that people will die from a variety of causes.

There are tens of thousands of response workers. How many people in a town that size die in a month?

[Wickerman]

18. how many are captains of boats in a recovery operation and die of, as one poster put it

"lead poisoning?"

[jberryhill]

19. This was part of the "vessels of opportunity" program

Here, have a superyacht captain:

http://www.dockwalk.com/Essentials/HotTopics.aspx?id=21064

I am simply saying that the conclusion jumping is impressive. The odds favor him being a crime victim.

[Wickerman]

24. Or, perhaps he was a nobel prize winner

Captain or Nobel prize winner, neither of which is germaine to our discussion. I do understand simple mortality data. The simple fact is he was there in support of the clean up effort - that is what makes it news and discussion worthy. Your idle speculation is as silly as any one else's, simply on the opposite end of the spectrum.

[jberryhill]

26. A Nobel prize winner probably has a livelihood

A deep sea fishing charter captain has just seen everything for which he's worked his entire life disappear.

[Wickerman]

28. Yes, and it appears the poor guy was a suicide

which means your agenda, on the back of his death, was trashed yet again.

[jberryhill]

32. My agenda?

and what, pray tell, would my "agenda" be?

The stats on gun deaths include people shot by others and themselves. Suicide is a leading cause of death.

[Wickerman]

33. You've been mocking posters all over this thread for their concern

that deaths were related to the oil spill. That was what the discussion most were trying to have.

[Junkdrawer]

10. Lead poisoning. n/t

[earth mom]

8. WTF! Gunshot wound?! Did someone shut him up because he knew too much?!

Sorry, but I'm putting my hat on for this one! :tinfoilhat:

[jberryhill]

12. In the US, there are about 13.4 gun deaths per 100,000 people per year

What that means is that in a collection of 100,000 people, you can expect a little over 1 per month.

With 50,000 people, you would expect a little over 1 every two months.

Were these workers moved to some country other than the US?

What is surprising about this?

[Junkdrawer]

14. So in the US, a gunshot wound is a natural cause of death...

What with there being so much lead flying around and all...

Nothing to see here. Move along...

[jberryhill]

16. No, that's not what I said

However, this workforce is not immune to statistics.

The reaction of "A gunshot death? In the US? Among a population of thousands? How is that possible?" is a wee bit credulous.

[earth mom]

15. If you can't connect the dots I can't help you. nt

[jberryhill]

17. Ah.. Okay... Only immortals were hired

and the other several ten thousand workers are keeping a secret.

Because nobody in the US is ever shot.

[earth mom]

20. Quit trying to stir shit up. Believe what you want to believe-I could care less. nt

[jberryhill]

25. I have no reason to believe anything at this point

You believe he was killed to cover up some secret he stumbled upon relative to the BP spill.

I beleive he died of a gunshot wound, and look forward to more information about the event, since people are shot in a wide variety of circumstances. To suggest that you know, for no reason, why this guy died is precisely "to stir shit".

[City Lights]

11. What. The. Fuck.

Seriously! :wtf:

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

7. Food poisoning?

sarcasm aimed at Hayward.

[librechik]

23. more like lead poisoning

apologies to the poor boat captain's family, may he RIP

[tranche]

13. That's a shame. I wish their families well.

[myrna minx]

22. .

:-(

[amborin]

31. K&R

[malaise]

34. How did the other person die?

:hi: