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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 11:17 AM
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Why did everyone cover up Sibel Edmonds' 911 warnings?
Edited on Thu May-10-07 11:19 AM by lukery
George Tenet's new book has renewed attention on what warnings the US Government had in advance of the 911 attacks. Robert Parry wrote about Tenet's "special trip" to the Crawford Estate in late August "to get George W. Bush to focus on an imminent threat of a spectacular al-Qaeda attack..."

In Mark Levey's enormously popular diary on Monday, he noted that "Tenet committed perjury before the 9/11 Commission when he denied meeting with Bush in the month before the attack."

A number of people have asked me whether this frenetic activity, and the August 6 Presidential Daily Briefing, was the result of the same, documented, information that FBI translator & whistleblower Sibel Edmonds reported to the 911 Commission. Actually, the information that Sibel saw was much more specific than the info in the famous "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S." PDB.

Apparently many people are unaware of the (documented, reported) details, so I'll tell you what I know downstairs - and I'll take a few potshots at the CIA, the US media, and the 911 Commission along the way.

In April 2001, a respected, long-term informant gave an interview to two FBI agents. The details of the interview are documented internally within the FBI (on so-called "302 forms"), and have been confirmed and reported in various respectable media outlets such as the Chicago Tribune.

Former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds, who has apparently seen the transcript of the interview, testified to the 911 Commission for more than 3 hours. When the 911 Commission report was released, Sibel was furious that significant, relevant information that she had provided had been excluded from the report, and she decided to share some of the details in an open letter to the Commission.

In the letter, among other things, she outlined some of the information that was provided by the informant in the April 2001 interview:
Through his contacts in Afghanistan, he received information that:
1) Osama bin Laden was planning a major terrorist attack in the United States targeting four or five major cities;
2) the attack was going to involve airplanes;
3) some of the individuals in charge of carrying out this attack were already in place in the United States;
4) the attack was going to be carried out soon, in a few months.


This information was given to Thomas Frields, the Special Agent in Charge of Counterterrorism in Washington.

In July 2004, the Chicago Tribune reported, as fact:
"Five months before Sept. 11, a longtime informant for the FBI reported that Al Qaeda was planning a devastating terrorist assault in which the weapons were to be commercial airliners."


For our current purposes, I'm not going to argue about how credible the informant was, or whether the FBI should have reacted in any particular way to the information. For our current purposes, the only relevant issue is that the information was, in retrospect, mostly accurate.

In comparison, the August 6 PDB which garnered so much attention was significantly less specific (despite the title: "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S."):
"Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.

The FBI is conducting approximately 70 investigations throughout the U.S. that it considers Bin Laden-related. CIA and the FBI are investigating a call to our embassy in the UAE in May saying that a group or Bin Laden supporters was in the U.S. planning attacks with explosives."



Further, the Chicago Times article specifically states that the information that Sibel mentions was not the source for the PDB. (I'll come back to this article later)

At this juncture, I want to emphasize that the information that Sibel mentions regarding the attacks is quite specific (if not actionable), it is (mostly) accurate, it is documented, and has been verified. The translator present at the interview (Behrooz Sarshar, not Sibel) testified to the facts to the 911 Commission, and provided the Commission with the relevant documents (the '302 forms').

Hopeless US Media
On March 26, 2004, Eric Boehlert first (?) reported in Salon that Sibel told the 911 Commission the details of the advance warning of the 911 attacks. He wrote:
"Edmonds testified before 9/11 commission staffers in February for more than three hours, providing detailed information about FBI investigations, documents and dates. This week Edmonds attended the commission hearings and plans to return in April when FBI Director Robert Mueller is scheduled to testify. "I'm hoping the commission asks him real questions -- like, in April 2001, did an FBI field office receive legitimate information indicating the use of airplanes for an attack on major cities? And is it true that through an FBI informant, who'd been used for 10 years, did you get information about specific terrorist plans and specific cells in this country? He couldn't say no," she insists."



Boehlert ended his article thusly:
"That's why she felt it was so important to appear before the 9/11 commission: "It's the only hope I have left to get this issue added to the public domain.""



A couple of days later, Paul Sperry (who has done some good work on Sibel's case) reported on Behrooz Sarshar's testimony in (wingnut) World Net Daily

On April 2, The UK's Independent, arguably the best paper in the English speaking world, recognizing the real story where the US media had missed it, put Sibel on the front page - with the headline "'I Saw Papers That Show US Knew al-Qa'ida Would Attack Cities With Airplanes'
Whistleblower the White House wants to silence speaks to The Independent"

Sperry at WND followed up on April 6, adding: "Grassley, moreover, has called Edmonds "very credible.""

On April 14 in the Village Voice, James Ridgeway wrote:
"Despite the best efforts of the Jersey Girls, leaders of the 9-11 Family Steering Committee, no member of the 9-11 commission this afternoon asked FBI chief Robert Mueller embarrassing questions about two former FBI translators who claim to have knowledge bearing on the attacks. One of them says she is being suppressed and can't talk because Attorney general John Ashcroft has placed a gag order on her."



I accept that I haven't done a "full" accounting of the US media's reporting on this element of the case, and I may have missed a bunch of reports - but the picture is fairly clear. The story about the most specific warnings, by far, of the 911 attacks got front page attention in the 'best paper in the world' (The Independent in the UK), and in the US there was an article in Salon, two in WingNut Daily, and a mention in the Village Voice. WTF?

Three months later, the aforementioned Chicago Tribune article said:
"In February, Sarshar spent several hours answering questions in a secure conference room with staff members of the Sept. 11 commission. FBI Director Robert Mueller, who expected to be asked about the case during an appearance before the commission in April, was surprised when the commissioners never raised the question, according to aides."


I'm not surprised that he was surprised. We've got an apparent media blackout, and a blackout from the 911 Commission as well - even Mueller couldn't believe it!
DCScripts
Of course, when the 911 Commission report was released, in the "missed opportunites" section (or anywhere else) of the report, there wasn't a single mention of the fact that
"Four months prior to the terrorist attacks, the Iranian asset provided the FBI with specific information regarding the "use of airplanes," "major U.S. cities as targets," and "Osama bin Laden issuing the order.""


It's a headscratcher.

You know, I could easily imagine that if a 'psychic' had said something like 'two (three, sic!) tall buildings in New York will disappear' they'd have got more attention than these particular claims.



As you hopefully know, we are trying to get Henry Waxman to fulfil a promise that he made to Sibel that he would hold hearings into her case when he became the majority leader (For the record, the 911 stuff is just a side issue in Sibel's case, see here and here for background of the key issues in her case.) For details of the campaign, see Let Sibel Edmonds Speak - in March we asked you to call Waxman's office and demand public, open hearings (and we'll be doing it again in the next few days) - and as part of that campaign, I did some radio interviews, and in a joint interview I did with Sibel on the Peter B Collins show, I mentioned the stuff that I've just outlined and said:
"I don't think that many Americans know that they had such a specific warning, and one of the reasons they don't know is because that particular piece of information didn't surface in the 911 Commission report in their "Missed Opportunities" section - which I think is outrageous. "



I was cringing for days after the interview because I had speculated, without evidence about what 'many Americans know' without really knowing the facts.

A few days later, Michael Scheuer was interviewed on Scott Horton's (awesome) show. Scheuer was the head of the Bin Laden unit, Alec Station, at the CIA. Scott asked Scheuer about the pre-911 warning that Sibel speaks of - and Scheuer said that he'd never heard of it... That made me feel a whole lot better about my "I don't think that many Americans know..." statement - but a whole lot worse for many other reasons. (some good folks have tried to console me by saying that the CIA and the FBI don't share information very well - dont even try it. a) Sibel scoffs at the notion, and b) ummmm, it's SIX years later, and even I know the facts, and they've been verified in the Chicago Trib and The Independent and elsewhere.)

Something is wrong with this picture.

I promised earlier that I'd get back to the Chicago Tribune article. The article deserves a good fisking, for a variety of reasons (and I have doubts about the motives behind the article) - and I'm not sure it's a good use of my time (or yours) right now - but this article was the first, and only (as far as I can tell), major US paper to print this:

"Five months before Sept. 11, a longtime informant for the FBI reported that Al Qaeda was planning a devastating terrorist assault in which the weapons were to be commercial airliners."


I'd argue that this should be relatively big news, given that it (apparently) hadn't been published before in a major outlet. For some reason, it is buried in the 33rd paragraph of an article called "As U.S. steps up investigation, Iran denies assisting Al Qaeda"

Given that I suspect that there are some not-entirely-honest motives behind the Tribune article ( read it for yourself and tell me if you have the same suspicions) - I'm not entirely convinced that this kinda-denial should be read at face value, which would raise a whole bunch of other questions
"Despite the coincidence of timing, none of the Asset's (informant's) statements appear to have formed the basis for a controversial CIA briefing paper given to President Bush on Aug. 6, 2001.

"There was other sourcing for that," the law enforcement official said."


Maybe Sibel's information was the source for the PDB after all. That might explain the apparent cover-up.

xposted http://wotisitgood4.blogspot.com/2007/05/why-did-everyone-cover-up-sibel-edmonds.html
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 11:31 AM
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1. Thanks much as usual.
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 12:04 PM
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7. another day, another dollar
let's knock em dead
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:38 PM
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11. I'm ready.
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 11:36 AM
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2. the orange version
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 11:36 AM
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3. Sibel Edmunds had access, as a translator, to compartmented reports
she quickly began to see the bigger picture of the crimes, not just 9-11 but networks that didn't communicate because of compartmentation and even worked counter to one another.

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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 11:39 AM
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4. Lukery: Do you know if Plame and Sibel have ever compared notes? And
once more your Sibel post points out the HUGE infrastructure (media, corporate, govt) that's in place to squash, distort, cover up any information about what's really going on including Sibel's revelations. She is really up against the world political and financial powerhouses that control events. We need her desperately but the three branches of govt, the fourth estate, and big money are building walls between her and us.
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 11:41 AM
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5. plame's brewster jennings was involved
in the same program that sibel was investigating
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 12:03 PM
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6. Right. I imagine both are prohibited from talking with one another. nt
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randyconspiracybuff Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 12:12 PM
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8. Sibel Didn't Know Plame...
...before she was outed, but she did know Brewster, Jennings was a CIA front company.
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 05:01 AM
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16. ATC
and that BJ was investigating the ATC and AQKhan
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 12:14 PM
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9. Sibel Edmonds and other Whistleblowers Group
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:04 PM
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10. Kick & Nominated
Obviously there are powerful people (including Democrats) who don't want this information out in public view.
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 03:16 AM
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15. we need to find a way to change that n/t
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 02:11 PM
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12. K&R Let Sibel speak.
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Chemical Bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 02:47 PM
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13. K&R
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 03:39 PM
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14. because we needed a catastrophic and catalyzing event..
like a new Pearl Harbor.
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 05:20 AM
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17. k+r
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 05:25 AM
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18. Giga k + r
Why do republicons want to hide the truth about 9/11?
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 07:48 AM
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19. When considering this evidence,
it is worthwhile to bear in mind that the historical record shows Western intelligence and military agencies have in the past seen fit to allow their own citizens to be attacked and even murdered in "terrorist" actions for what they see as the "greater good" i.e. the supposed counteracting of leftist and communist subversion.

NATO's Secret Army: Operation Gladio and Terrorism in Western Europe (Contemporary Security Studies) (Paperback)
by GANSER DANIELE (Author)

Editorial Reviews
Book Description

The CIA and the British secret service MI6, in collaboration with the military alliance NATO and European military secret services set up a network of clandestine anticommunist armies in Western Europe after World War II. The secret soldiers were trained on remote islands in the Mediterranean and in unorthodox warfare centers in England and in the United States by the Green Berets and SAS Special Forces. The network was armed with explosives, machine guns and high-tech communication equipment hidden in underground bunkers and secret arms caches in forests and mountain meadows. In some countries, the secret army linked up with right-wing terrorists who in a secret war engaged in political manipulation, harassment of left wing parties, massacres, coup d'etats and torture.

Codenamed "Gladio" ('the sword'), the Italian secret army was exposed in 1990 by Italian Prime Minister Giulio Andreotti to the Italian Senate, whereupon the press spoke of the "the best kept, and most damaging, political-military secret since World War II" (Observer, 18. November 1990) and observed that "The story seems straight from the pages of a political thriller." (The Times, November 19, 1990). Ever since, so-called 'stay-behind' armies of NATO have also been discovered in France, Spain, Portugal, Germany, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxemburg, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Switzerland, Austria, Greece and Turkey. They were internationally coordinated by the Pentagon and NATO and had their last known meeting in the NATO-linked Allied Clandestine Committee (ACC) in Brussels in October 1990.

SNIP

Brilliant study of state-sponsored terrorism, October 25, 2006
Reviewer: William Podmore (London United Kingdom) - See all my reviews
(TOP 500 REVIEWER) (REAL NAME)
This path-breaking work by Daniele Ganser, a Senior Researcher at the Center for Security Studies at Zurich's Federal Institute of Technology, exposes the secret anti-communist terrorist organisation set up across Europe by the US and British states after World War Two. They created the Gladio network in all 16 NATO member countries and in the neutral nations of Sweden, Finland, Austria and Switzerland. They recruited former SS members as part of Germany's network.

As Ganser writes, these networks "became activists in political causes as a rule and not as an exception." The US and British states used them "to manipulate and control the democracies of Western Europe from within, unknown to both European populations and parliaments. This strategy led to terror and fear, as well as to `humiliation and maltreatment of democratic institutions'." They created and manipulated a terrorist threat, developing a `strategy of tension' to strengthen Europe's ruling classes.

Ganser points out, "Sometimes these efforts involved violence, even terrorism, and sometimes the terrorists made use of the very equipment furnished to them for their Cold War function." He observes, "The secret armies ... were involved in a whole series of terrorist operations and human rights violations that they wrongly blamed on the Communists in order to discredit the left at the polls. The operations always aimed spreading maximum fear among the population and ranged from bomb massacres in trains and market squares (Italy), the use of systematic torture of opponents of the regime (Turkey), the support for right-wing coups d'etats (Greece and Turkey), to the smashing of opposition groups (Portugal and Spain)."

http://www.amazon.com/NATOs-Secret-Army-Operation-Contemporary/dp/0714685003


The BBC actually aired a 3 part Television documentary on Operation Gladio which is available to view online (but not on the BBC web site). If you google "Operation Gladio" you will find a link to view all 3 parts of the documentary on the first page of results (towards the bottom).
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 07:55 AM
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20. LIHOP! LIHOP! LIHOP! LIHOP! LIHOP! LIHOP! LIHOP! LIHOP!
:evilfrown:

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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:02 AM
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21. And, and isn't Scheuer part of the AEI or some other neocon think tank now??
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:31 AM
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22. And yet those of us who say
9/11 was a Bush Administration operation, start to finish, are ridiculed. Well, I don't care anymore. I KNOW what my extensive research AND my own eyes tell me.
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pauldp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 11:36 AM
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23. OK Lukery, this is getting very frustrating...when are we going to see
the "Kill the Messenger" movie? I'm really getting tired of watching the trailer.

thanks once again for you work.

K&R
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 07:30 PM
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25. it's frustrating, i know
i'll let you know when i have more.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 02:45 PM
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24. kick n/t
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pauldp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-12-07 05:26 PM
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26. Kick. n/t
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