Great picture of FDR with Katharine Hepburn

[WI_DEM]

[no_hypocrisy]

1. Kate may have liked FDR, but she LOVED Henry Wallace.

[BrklynLiberal]

4. Smart woman

[The Wielding Truth]

9. He was a liberal Republican. that's something you never see anymore.

[Gold Metal Flake]

17. Henry Wallace? The democratic socialist?

[The Wielding Truth]

21. ?? wikipedia information I thought was interesting.

http://en..org/wiki/Henry_A._Wallace

[Gold Metal Flake]

27. Link is broken.

To define Henry Wallace by the party he abandoned is disingenuous.

[The Wielding Truth]

31. Try this. It worked for me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_A._Wallace

[Gold Metal Flake]

36. As I posted previously...

"To define Henry Wallace by the party he abandoned is disingenuous."

[The Wielding Truth]

39. Okay, just stating a resource. Thought someone might enjoy the read.

It's cool.I had not heard of him before.

[Gold Metal Flake]

41. It's cool. Our exchange has bumped this thread for almost a full day!

:thumbsup:

[RoyGBiv]

33. The 1930s was a period of political realignment ...

A commonplace myth is that the Republican and Democratic parties have "switched sides" since the 1860s. Without going into the details of why this myth is mostly false, I'll simply note that the kernel of truth on which the myth is based begins to see full expression during this era. Indeed the number of people like Wallace who switched parties during this period is one reason the myth arose in the manner it did.

A "liberal Republican" in the 1930s was a descendant of people like Teddy Roosevelt, who was both a Republican and a Progressive. Wallace, as the previous respondent implied, was a dying breed within the Republican party. The response to the depression by each party convinced him that his personal ideology fit better within the Democrats.

[roguevalley]

14. *I* loved Wallace. Awesome man, Henry Wallace.

[leveymg]

18. She almost got blacklisted for a speech she gave at a Henry Wallace Rally

Katherine Hepburn . . . first became a target of anti-Communist threats in 1947 as a result of her outspoken support of liberal causes. For the first thirty years of her life she had little to do with politics, but in 1947 she held a great distaste for President Harry Truman and in 1948 she became a activist in the campaign to elect former Vice President Henry Wallace of the Progressive Party to the top position in the Unites States government (Klingaman 170). At an anti-censorship and pro-Wallace rally in Los Angeles, Hepburn made a defining speech introducing Wallace and addressing the topic of censorship. A man named Edward G. Robinson was originally supposed to make the speech, but Hepburn took over for the reasons she describes:

“He’s Jewish and very left of center,so he would certainly be suspected by that committee . My ancestors were ‘on the Mayflower’. There’s nothing that they can tack onto me. I’ve never been a member of any organization of any kind in my whole life. I’ll make the speech” (Hepburn 220).

[Smarmie Doofus]

24. Rec for Henry Wallace.... the underappreciated. nt

[malaise]

37. Nah

Spencer Tracy was the love of her life.

[BrklynLiberal]

2. No doubt there was alot of reciprocal charming going on there.

[Confusious]

3. I don't have any heroes

But he's one man I most admire.

This country need another one w/ balls like him. Man or woman.

[jobycom]

8. Really hate that expression.

Really fucking hate it. The only reason "balls" is supposed to mean whatever it means to people is because only men are supposed to be capable of that whatever-it-is. It's sexist from the start, and not qualifier makes it less so. It's like saying "Mighty white of you," or "very articulate for a black man" or other such backhanded compliments.

In case anyone cares to know. Wasn't upset with you, I just hate that expression with every liberal and egalitarian fiber of my being.

[mopinko]

11. i prefer huevos.

which kinda cracks my up to see the defining male characteristic turned into the defining female characteristic. i don't like 'balls' to describe courage, either.

[Confusious]

16. Sorry, I don't view expressions through a filter like yours

When someone says it, I hear it just as "has courage," with no sexist overtones. I know some people have a problem with filters and tend to view this or that with those filters on all the time,

so that's why I put man or woman.

"every liberal and egalitarian fiber of my being."

I don't view PC as egalitarian. I view it as trying to control. You can to do it physically or mentally. PC is mental. And a waste of time. It doesn't change minds or change views, it just stops people from using words.

And if that's all you have to say about a post about a person who was probably the greatest president this country has ever had, it shows how much those filters are in control.

[jobycom]

30. I don't see what's filtered or "PC" about it (not that PC is a bad thing)

It's sexist. That's not about filters or PC or any other chaff. Men have balls. All men have balls. Every president has had balls. You want a president who has balls like FDR? You got every other one to pick from. You didn't praise him, you neutralized him.

As for the whole "PC" thing, language is exactly where all prejudices hide. When you aren't aware of what you are saying, you often aren't aware of your prejudice or how you are spreading it. When I was growing up "PC" was just called manners. I remember when Rush and the conservative whine brigade tried to make the efforts to fight prejudice into some negative, labeling it "PC" and attaching that phrase to everything they wanted to belittle. I'm just still heartbroken that liberals fell for that easy claptrap.

[Confusious]

34. What's so sexist about it.

I don't see it. A woman can have balls too. Never said a woman can't have courage. You're the only one saying that.

Oh I see. You're thinking in terms of sex, sex, sex. Men have a penis and women don't. that sort of thing. You can't seem to see beyond that into a more abstract term.

You didn't praise him, you neutralized him.

Your thinking is wack. 98% of people would agree with how I used the words. You are the first person to ever ever say that about the term.

language is exactly where all prejudices hide. When you aren't aware of what you are saying, you often aren't aware of your prejudice or how you are spreading it.

Where'd you get that from? the PC convention? It hides in people's minds. Picking a different word or not using a word isn't going to change a behavior or make them treat people different. You have to change minds. Words are an easy out. Makes you think you're doing something, when you're really not.

If they can't use one word, they'll just use others - "that person" "those people" They seems to use a lot of "code words" these days.

If you change the mind, they won't use the words anymore.

You're a dog chasing its tail. You catch it, it hurts, you start again. It's never ending.

and PC was never manners. I spent half my childhood in the south. It was never manners.

I'm just still heartbroken that liberals fell for that easy claptrap.

No, didn't hear about it from rush. Sorry, I take everything with a grain of salt, and once I had had my fill, I made my decision, and I didn't really care for the personalities of the people pushing it, nor did I think it would make any sort of difference.

Of course, I'm sure I will see you post a protest of "sexist" when someone calls someone else a dick, won't I?

[DoBotherMe]

35. How about moxie?

That's a good neutral word that doesn't offend me. :hi: Dana ; )

[Gidney N Cloyd]

38. Katherine Harris ruined that one for me.

And Lou hates spunk.

[avaistheone1]

10. +1,000

That is why he was elected to the highest office of our land four times, and why people felt so passionately about him.

[Confusious]

20. People named their children after him

Like my great-uncle, Franklin Delano.

[avaistheone1]

22. I can imagine they did. One of his great grandsons lives in my town.

The local paper ran a story on him. The great grandson seems like a cool kid.

[closeupready]

5. I like that picture.

K&R

[Gidney N Cloyd]

6. I'm glad I never met Hepburn.

I'm a major fan of her work but something just tells me I'd find her incredibly irritating in person.

On edit: she'd probably find me incredibly irritating, too. Most people seem to.

[The Wielding Truth]

7. misplaced.

[leveymg]

12. Here's another shot from the same picnic

[Scuba]

13. My favorite President. My favorite actress. Thanks.

[applegrove]

29. Yes the juxtaposition of those two is great. I like them both.

[proteus_lives]

15. FDR was quite the ladies man.

[leveymg]

19. From what I can tell, he had good taste.

Particularly, the woman he chose to marry.

[avaistheone1]

23. Indeed.

:kick:

[Bitwit1234]

25. Here's a man who had wealth and privilege BUT

was he a republican and did he believe in corporate dictatorship. Heck no. He was a man for the people. He believed in this COUNTRY FOLKS and not corporation rule.

Why do you think Prescott Bush and the big robber baron companies wanted to overthrow the government. Shows they were not very good at sizing people up. They picked a man who also loved America to try to overthrow it.

[fascisthunter]

26. he had compassion and lot's of common sense

[Beringia]

28. She has a lot of bobby pins in her hair

to give her that bouncy look.

[Swamp Rat]

32. Man, I really love Kate... 'rally I doo.'

:loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

[The Wielding Truth]

40. Cute... me too.