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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 08:30 PM
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Operation Dodging Daddies: Sheriff Joe rounds up deadbeat parents
PHOENIX -- The Maricopa County Sheriff's Office is going after deadbeat parents this weekend as part of an annual operation.

"If you're going to have kids, you should probably have some type of responsibility to raise those kids properly," Sheriff Joe Arpaio said at the command post he set up at Park Central Mall in Phoenix.

More than 100 deputies and volunteer posse members brought in dozens parents accused of not paying child support. All of those parents -- 27 men and six women -- were taken straight to jail.

At least four of the 33 so-called deadbeat parents brought in Saturday owe more than $100,000 in back child support.

“I know families are struggling more today than in years past,” Arpaio said in a news release. “But a tough economy is no excuse for a mom or dad to ignore their financial obligations to their children. Kids come first, no matter what.”

Of the child-support warrants issued, the worst offender owed almost $175,000. It's not clear if that person was picked up during Saturday's operation.

http://www.azfamily.com/outbound-feeds/yahoo-news/Sheriff-Joe-rounds-up-deadbeat-parents-96733404.html
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 08:34 PM
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1. hate to admit it but he is right
good for Sheriff Joe
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 09:36 PM
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8. He's "right", BUT
I'm guessing that most non-custodial parents skip the child support payment part because they cannot afford to pay it. I have never met a parent who deliberately decided to not pay to help raise their child. Parents often do not think through the facts that incomes that barely met the cost of living when all were under one roof, will certainly not meet the needs of TWO households.

Locking someone up who cannot pay, does not generate money for the custodial parent, and may harm children from a "new" family.

I don't have a solution, and I know how infuriating it is when "Dad does not pay child support", because I have many friend whose exes were "non-payers", but locking Dad up was not something they ever seriously wanted..
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 07:42 AM
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17. you need to get out more
I've come across plenty of non-custodial parents who refuse to pay

it's called being an asshole to your kids


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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 11:10 AM
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20. Perhaps my divorced friends are of a higher caliber than yours
Edited on Sun Jun-20-10 11:10 AM by SoCalDem
:evilgrin:
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 12:35 PM
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28. I'm with you.
Edited on Sun Jun-20-10 12:36 PM by blueamy66
Everything is NOT black and white.

Some custodial parents are just vengeful.

If I had a child out of wedlock, I would not go after the other person for cash. If they don't want to see the kid or be in the kid's life, why should I force them?

If you choose to keep the child, get a job, pay the bills and be an adult.

Sheriff Joe is a piece of shit.

Can't wait to read the responses to this....
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 03:58 PM
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29. trash is trash no matter where you go
:evilgrin:

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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 12:33 PM
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26. You're kidding, right?
There are many parents who VERY deliberately don't contribute to the support of their children. They are beyond pathetic.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 08:35 PM
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2. If I was behind on my child support I think I'd be living somewhere
other than on Sheriff Joe's turf.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 08:38 PM
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3. Sheriff Joe likes to round people up.
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discocrisco01 Donating Member (524 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 08:38 PM
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4. Sheriff Joe
At least Sheriff Joe is doing something productive for once
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 08:58 PM
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5. Seems like the best way to get money from someone is to ensure they have no means to earn money
Putting the worse offender in jail is certain to prevent his children from ever getting any of their child support.

How many of those people who owe $100,000 are actually above the poverty line?
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 09:13 PM
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6. It's like a debtors' prison
Sheriff Joe likes headlines.
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 10:18 PM
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11. Even worse, the State just unilaterally declared they owed more than they could pay
Now they are throwing them in jail, which will ensure that they can never pay it. All the while pretending that this will make the children better off.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 10:41 PM
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13. It is debtor's prison
and when its a credit card company that is owed money by a person who cannot get a job, we all seem to feel sorry for that individual.

Yes, parents owe their kids their child support (I always paid mine) but some times, in some really lousy economies, it just can't be done.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 09:31 PM
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7. how many are unemployed?
Looks like Joe wants to run up a big bill for taxpayers -- custody for dads on Father's Day.
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Jkid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 09:47 PM
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9. That is a good question
The real question is that how many people are low-income people?
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 10:13 PM
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10. How many could afford $100,000 if they wanted to?
Just an excuse for Crazy Joe to lock some poor people away for being poor.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 10:25 PM
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12. When it takes two working adults to support a single household,
Edited on Sat Jun-19-10 10:25 PM by hedgehog
how are the two adults supposed to support two households?

It's a problem with no easy answers. I can see the custodial parent needing every penny and the non-custodial parent left with nothing after paying child support. Neither is having a great time.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 10:48 PM
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14. that very dilemma is yet to be examined, I think
The whole sociological aspect of what no-fault divorce, child support laws, and duality of resources hasn't been openly discussed, AFIK. To say nothing of the effect on housing prices, energy, and on and on!

And then there's the dynamic where a blended family is both paying child support and receiving child support, and a whole grapevine of intertwining happens! Mary and Joe divorce. Joe marries Penny. Mary marries Ed. Joe is paying support to Mary for children. Ed is paying support to two moms for children by them. Penny is receiving support from Paul. And when the custodial parents don't remarry, or when people with no children marry parents with children, the path of the resources becomes blurred.

Yikes! All this is only made worse by unemployment and economic uncertainty.
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Mojeoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 10:53 PM
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15. Wages can be garnisheed in a pre-determined manner.
This guy is a show boat.

I hate dead beat Dads and Moms, but this guy can't use my rage.

This sheriff is a fool.

If he really cared he'd work with judges in family court.

These people will be re-leased and they'll go through the family court anyway.

From the kid's point of view, this is humiliating.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 11:15 AM
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21. Exactly. This is happening to my brother.
He makes over $100k a year, his ex doesn't work, they have three girls. He can't even afford to rent an apartment right now. It's insane.
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meowomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 12:58 AM
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16. As Long as he's going after deadbeat parents and not undocumented workers, I'm ok with it!
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 08:43 AM
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18. with some very rare exceptions
people whose circumstances change but have judges who refuse to adjust orders, it is nothing short of despicable for these parents to refuse to pay. Maybe some jail time will shake some money from their pockets.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 11:20 AM
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23. And what if they have no money to shake?
But if sitting in jail helps manufacture money out of thin air, I'm all for it.

This just points out how archaic and punitive child-support judgments can be...you just can't get blood from a stone.

As a one-time custodial parent of three minor children whose ex paid NOT ONE SINGLE PENNY of court-ordered support, I still find that jailing people instead of a civil remedy of garnishing wages, tax returns, attaching assets, etc. to be asinine.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 12:28 PM
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24. they only do jail after all of the above don't work
It isn't like you forget to pay for a month and you get arrested.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 08:44 AM
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19. By using a gender specific term in the name he shows he's also a sexist piece of shit
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 11:18 AM
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22. The man is pure evil!
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 12:31 PM
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25. This guy is a real media whore. He has to have an 'operation' for everything?
Why doesn't he just do his job and shut the fuck up?

Don
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 12:34 PM
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27. What a frigging moron.
You garnish the wages, prevent them from renewing drivers license, and intercept tax returns. Locking them up just gives them a real excuse to say,I am broke and can't afford it. sheriff asshole Joe gets it wrong again.
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