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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 12:26 PM
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Conservatives say it's "about time we stopped blaming Bush," "ridiculous" and "offensive" to do so
Giuliani: "It's about time we stopped blaming Bush." On the June 17 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe, Rudy Giuliani said President Obama has "been president now for 18 months" so "it's about time we stopped blaming Bush."

From the June 17 edition of Morning Joe:

JOE SCARBOROUGH (host): In the role of devil's advocate, we hear that we had the technology to stop this, in 2002, though, Dick Cheney and his energy task force said, no, we're not going to take an extra step.

GIULIANI: I have no -- I have no idea what Dick Cheney did five or six years ago.

SCARBOROUGH: Isn't it important to know?

GIULIANI: Of course it's important to know

SCARBOROUGH: It's part of the story.

GIULIANI: It's important to know as part of the history of this but the reality is, he's been president now for 18 months. It's about time we stopped blaming Bush.

Perino: Democrats are "ridiculous" and "offensive" to lay any blame for oil spill on Bush administration. On June 14 on Fox News' Fox & Friends, former Bush press secretary Dana Perino said that it was "offensive," "small," and "ridiculous" to put any blame for the Gulf oil spill on the Bush administration.

From the June 14 edition of Fox & Friends:

BRIAN KILMEADE (co-host): So there you have it on the Sunday shows as if the president Bush left yesterday, he's blaming. I mean, does President Bush have to go back, or someone like yourself go back and say what you inherited?

PERINO: Well, you know, we could, but I think that the American people by now they've -- it's gone from being, okay, yeah, we get it, you're blaming them to being ridiculous to now just being offensive and I think they look so small. And I think about those leaders -- they know that that is not true. They know that there are answers to every single one of those things and they chose not to talk about them.

And if you -- if one of those reporters had had the guts to say name one, name one regulatory piece that was repealed during the Bush administration that led to this or that. And instead they don't ask them about their role in the housing crisis or in the banking crisis. And I think I'm pretty sure that there are a lot of Democrats suggesting that we also try to drill for our own resources here in America because we have a national security and national economic security situation when it comes to our oil resources so it's just ridiculous.

KILMEADE: Right. Dana, also there's been at least 30,000 different wells drilled over the last 50 years in the Gulf. There's never been any accidents. Because one happens, it's George Bush's fault?

PERINO: Right. That's why it sounds so ridiculous. And I think, you know, if it was children that parents would fight - you know, children fighting in the back seat of a road trip, I think the parents would finally turn around and say, shut up or we're going to kick you out of the car.

Lots MORE: http://mediamatters.org/research/201006180053
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 12:31 PM
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1. To claim that the BP incident is the first oil well accicent in the gulf is absurd.
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 12:31 PM
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2. Isn't it time to kick Perino out of the car....or at least, off the air?
"PERINO: Right. That's why it sounds so ridiculous. And I think, you know, if it was children that parents would fight - you know, children fighting in the back seat of a road trip, I think the parents would finally turn around and say, shut up or we're going to kick you out of the car."
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 12:33 PM
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3. And when THEY kept blaming Clinton that was okey dokey.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 12:35 PM
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5. Did we agree with them blaming him after being a year office? (nt)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 12:40 PM
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7. I didn't
But some of them are STILL blaming Clinton. Ten years later. While they criticize US for blaming Bush.

Hell some of the more delusional wing nuts are blaming Carter for the oil spill. I was just reading one of their blogs this morning.

Just a tad bit hypocritical, don't you think?
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 12:46 PM
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8. I think it is when either side does it then complains that the other side does it (nt)
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 12:34 PM
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4. Hey, Dana...I've got an answer for one of your comments and I'd love to hear your answer.
..."if one of those reporters had had the guts to say name one, name one regulatory piece that was repealed during the Bush administration..."

Open up the files to that secret 2001 Energy Policy meeting chaired by The Dick, Cheney, and then we will be able to point out what was "repealed" behind closed doors.

I dare ya, Dana.
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Sheepshank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 12:38 PM
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6. That would assume we forvive and forget.
In addition, complying with that babyish demand simply puts the Reps into a position of unaccountability. That should never happen.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 12:48 PM
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9. bush left his coverup man a big stink bomb
I believe obama's main job was to provide cover for youngster bush and the criminals gopigs in the bush junyer whouse- and Barack is trying his darndest to do a good job. Providing cover for the worst sabateurs of USA (and its liberal democracy) in its history is a tough job. The gopigs must get a kick outta seeing Obama DOING WELL by them regards the youngster bush, while also giving them a nice target for their hate filled attacks on the USA's efforts to limit the damage bush caused! Unfortunately, the game is up. Obama is trapped (the real horrorshow in Gulf is becoming obvious) and bush jr will be put under the bus if obama hopes to continue providing cover for the pigmedia goofs who gave the USA geebush in first place! IOW the busheviks themselves no longer count
Anyone who takes literally what the thuggocray is trying to sell us needs to 'get a brain....' etc
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 12:49 PM
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10. People always underestimate time delay in politics.
By now we're at the point where it's no longer reasonable to blame Jimmy Carter for much, but the actions of presidents Reagan, Bush, Clinton and Bush probably all have more impact on what happens today than Obama's do, and the repercussions of what Obama does will still be being felt in 10-20 years time.
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The Gunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 12:54 PM
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11. How come no one ever asks these fascists.....
why it was ok to blame Clinton for everything during all 8 years of the Bush regime.
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samrock Donating Member (501 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 02:53 PM
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15. Or why was it ok to blame Carter for everything

during Reagan's 8 years and even a few years of Bush 1.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 12:56 PM
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12. Only to PROSECUTE him.
There's a long list, starting with treason, war crimes, mass murder, war profiteering, corruption, theft... for starters.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 01:03 PM
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13. If I had any say in it, Bush II, Cheney, Rove and a few more would be in Gitmo
for life.
I know reasonably normal people who think Bush will someday be declared a great president (?), and I can not understand why anyone would think this - that gang nearly destroyed our nation sent thousands to die in pointless wars that they didn't even bother to pay for...and the list goes on.

We haven't even STARTED blaming Bush-we probably never will to the extent he deserves.

mark
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 02:19 PM
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14. Stop blaming them
prosecute them.
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