Sobering View From Oil Industry Insider-The casing has been breached & its been known for some time

[kpete]

The casing has been breached and its been known for some time.

As you have probably seen and maybe feel yourselves, there are several things that do not appear to make sense regarding the actions of attack against the well. Don't feel bad, there is much that doesn't make sense even to professionals unless you take into account some important variables that we are not being told about. There seems to me to be a reluctance to face what cannot be termed anything less than grim circumstances in my opinion. There certainly is a reluctance to inform us regular people and all we have really gotten is a few dots here and there...

First of all...set aside all your thoughts of plugging the well and stopping it from blowing out oil using any method from the top down. Plugs, big valves to just shut it off, pinching the pipe closed, installing a new bop or lmrp, shooting any epoxy in it, top kills with mud etc etc etc....forget that, it won't be happening..it's done and over. In fact actually opening up the well at the subsea source and allowing it to gush more is not only exactly what has happened, it was probably necessary, or so they think anyway.

So you have to ask WHY? Why make it worse?...there really can only be one answer and that answer does not bode well for all of us. It's really an inescapable conclusion at this point, unless you want to believe that every Oil and Gas professional involved suddenly just forgot everything they know or woke up one morning and drank a few big cups of stupid and got assigned to directing the response to this catastrophe. Nothing makes sense unless you take this into account, but after you do...you will see the "sense" behind what has happened and what is happening. That conclusion is this:

The well bore structure is compromised "Down hole".

That is something which is a "Worst nightmare" conclusion to reach. While many have been saying this for some time as with any complex disaster of this proportion many have "said" a lot of things with no real sound reasons or evidence for jumping to such conclusions, well this time it appears that they may have jumped into the right place...

more:
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6593#comment-648967
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdo0f9_videos-of-oil-leaking-thru-cracks-i_news

[fishbulb703]

1. dougr seems not to have much support from the rest of TOD, but I think he is right

call me a pessimist ><

[jdlh8894]

2. The casing was breeched from day 1 !!! N/T

[flyarm]

6. we in Fla fot on our local news right after the explosion that the main pipe was very unstable and

that it breaking off was a very real possibility and then nothing would be able to stop the Flow of oil.

There were experts from our universities on our Local news stations telling us the main pipe was very very weak and vunerable to breaking off..or being destroyed....then we went into a Fed Government /BP kabuki theater scenerio...

We are and have been bullshitted from day one!

[damntexdem]

3. So, can a relief well do any good?

Can anything do any good?

[bvar22]

12. Yes.

If the casing has been breached, the ONLY thing that will work is a relief well.
If there is indeed oil bubbling up from "cracks in the Gulf Floor", then this is what has happened, though I have seen NO real evidence (video) of "crude bubbling up through cracks in the seabed".

bvar22
Directional Driller in the Gulf of Mexico in my younger days.

[Statistical]

15. Yes.

Relief well seals the flow below the semi-permeable rock.

Imagine a garden hose with broken nozzle (BOP) and also imagine a couple feet from nozzle you have a hole cut into the hose.
Doing anything "upstream" from the cut will be ineffective. Even if you sealed the nozzle leak more water would just flow from the cut/tear in the hose.

Now imagine someone else kinks the hose right next to the faucet. Doesn't matter the status of the hose, or where/if/number of leaks exist in the hose. Flow is cut off at the source.

A relief well would be better named a "bottom kill" anything about the relief well intersection point is no longer material. Below the intersection point the rock is non-permeable (it is the rock formation that prevented the oil from flowing to surface naturally millions of years ago).

[xchrom]

4. recommend nt

[SidDithers]

5. From the infamouse dougr, of godlikeproductions...

The experienced posters at TOD see too many errors in dougr's doomsday posts for them to be considered accurate.

Sid

[flamingdem]

8. We posted at the same time. SHR has some points but he is NOT an engineer and not an oil man nt

[SidDithers]

10. Yup, his posts are getting a lot of play on the tubes tho...nt

Sid

[Subdivisions]

16. Yep. I saw that post when it went up on TOD. Since then it has spread like a wildfire. n/t

[flamingdem]

7. ALERT! This information is cribbed from "SHR" who is a moderator of a conspiracy forum

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1097505/pg1

[Urban Prairie]

9. The wellbore structure could be compromised downhole...

But how far?

As I posted in another thread, I seem to remember reading that there is around 1000' of muddy sediment that the Deepwater Horizon rig had to pass through before drilling through any "solid" strata, so I will continue to hope that the wellbore casing structure is still viable beneath that sediment.

[valerief]

11. The casing of our govt has been breached and it's been breached for quite some time, too. nt

[Subdivisions]

13. Can we please stop posting this? It's been posted a hundred times. It's origin is questionable.

The guy, dougr, has admitted that he is also SHR at http://www.godlikeproductions.com">Godlike Productions, which is a conspiracy, UFO, and paranormal site.

I've spoken personally with the writer of that article and although he is very persuasive and intelligent, he is a consumate bullshitter and has no real experience with offshore drilling. He also believes in some strange stuff.

The information in that article is all speculation and not supported by any verified facts.

[Subdivisions]

14. Kicking to add link to article at GLP:

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1097505/pg1