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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 08:58 AM
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"Are you f--king happy? The rig's on fire! I told you this was gonna happen."

-- Deepwater Horizon installation manager Jimmy Harrell, on a satellite phone call to Houston as the rig was exploding.

(source: Newsweek)



But Tony Hayward says that there is a "culture of safety" at BP.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 09:00 AM
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1. A culture of doing what is expedient, easy, and least expensive.
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 09:11 AM
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2. Someone should have said...
"If you think maintenance on a $500,000 blow-out preventor is expensive wait'll you see what an exploding rig, a polluted gulf, 4 oil-soaked states and numerous crippled industries will set you back.

"That crap can get *really* expensive!"
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 09:32 AM
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3. why does ANYONE think their approach to containment and cleanup will be any different?
the FEDS need to lead the containment and cleanup efforts!
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katanalori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 09:42 AM
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4. This is a BFD!
Do you happen to have a link to the Newsweek article? Thanks.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 09:50 AM
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5. link to quote
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 09:56 AM
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6. thank you for the link. n/t
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 09:57 AM
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7. K&R
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 10:01 AM
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8. There was an article yesterday in the Times-Picayune
saying that BP said that they didn't comply with the law requiring that they inspect the blowout preventer because the MMS didn't ask them to.

That's taking half-assed to a whole new level right there.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 10:12 AM
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11. MMS is partly to blame
As Rep. Markey has shown us they did not read the contingency disaster reports, 4 out of 5 which referred to walruses in the Gulf.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 10:18 AM
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12. I know I shouldn't chuckle every time I hear that
but SWEET BUTTER JESUS these people are lazy and stupid. :o
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 10:08 AM
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9. recommend
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 10:10 AM
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10. Culture of safety my ass!
I worked for an outfit (Praxair) who operated like this. What happens is, the company has a big, fancy safety program, which is managed by incompetents at it's top levels. Then all safety expenditures are charged to individual business units.
Now, you create a culture where management & workers become used to bypassing lots of meaningless edicts and cumbersome procedures, just to get ANYTHING done.
Finally, you put relentless bottom-line pressure on middle managers, who have become deaf to any statement involving the word "Safety", as it has become (in their minds) a ubiquitous exscuse for why something is not getting done, and costing too much.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 10:34 AM
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13. To whom had Jimmy Harrell said this was going to happen?
To whom did that person report? Who decided to ignore Mr. Harrell?

Etc.

K&R
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 10:31 PM
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29. We'll probably never find out
Edited on Fri Jun-18-10 10:54 PM by kenny blankenship
because all the guilty parties have been allowed to sequester their employees away from reporters and govt. investigators - supposing there were any around interested enough to ask questions. They have all been huddling with their lawyers and rehearsing their stories about the awful, terrible, no good, very bad accident that was nobody's fault. I read here the other day that Mr. Harrell has denied having had that conversation or saying those words to anybody. I expect, although I may be accused of being overly cynical, that the investigation, supposing there ever is one, will hit various brick walls of jurisdiction, will languish with the unavailability of testimony from certain non-US nationals, will snag on the sanctity of confidentiality agreements, etc. and proprietary technical data that cannot even be outlined in open court, and will fizzle out into irrelevance much like the Congressional inquiry at the end of Bong Joon-Ho's film The Host. At the end of the day, BP is one of the world's great corporations, great as in big and historical- like the British East India Company. Not only are they very big, and pump a lot of oil, and swing a lot of dick in Congress, and fill out a lot of stock portfolios here and abroad, but BP is also the official low cost supplier of Go Juice to our thirsty military in a couple of theaters of war, apparently. Which makes BP a critical ally in our Global War On Stuff - not to mention their intimate connection to Britain, who is our only real boots-on-the-ground henchman in that caper. In the end, we'll all be asked to swallow a preposterous story of innocent happenstance and unlucky coincidences, and dummy up in Support of Our Troops. A few underlings will be hanged from the yard arm, but the executives who are really at fault for the Gulf ecocide will be shielded from the consequences of their gross criminal negligence, along with the company itself.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 10:36 AM
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14. The Obama administration was indeed warned that this would happen
but they chose to ignore those warnings- and accelerate offshore drilling- knowing the regulatory agenciy and inspection process was utterly inept.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 10:42 AM
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15. The administration was warned that Deepwater Horizon was going to blow up?
I hadn't heard that.

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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 10:45 AM
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16. me neither
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 10:50 AM
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17. I guess Obama was on the other end of that satellite phone call.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 11:02 AM
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19. Documents clearly show...
that Obama was briefed by the Grays that the Bermuda Triangle was expected to attack that oil rig.

:crazy:
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 10:59 AM
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18. Gee- a rig blew less than a year earlier in damn near identical circumstances
Edited on Fri Jun-18-10 11:01 AM by depakid
took months to stop the massive flow of oil. The Inspector General's Office and the GAO have issued reports condemning the MMS's ineptitude, negligence and corruption. BP has a long and sordid history of repeated safety violations- worst of all of them.

How much more warning does one need to say: hey, maybe approving this Deepwater Horizon project- and failing to inspect it- isn't such a bright idea?

Montara: Timor Sea, August - November 2009



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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montara_oil_spill

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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 11:32 AM
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21. I'm not happy that the Salazar wasn't able to flush out...
Edited on Fri Jun-18-10 11:33 AM by MilesColtrane
the entrenched corruption in the Bush MMS in 14 months.

But, the Inspector General's report on the corruption in the LA branch of MMS was issued after the Deepwater Horizon explosion.

...the GAO report on the Alaskan branch of the MMS came out 13 days before the accident.

Despite that, I do think he should be fired by Obama and replaced.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 09:59 PM
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28. GAO report was issued in September 2009
Edited on Fri Jun-18-10 09:59 PM by depakid
http://www.gao.gov/docsearch/app_processform.php?app_id=docdblite_date&page=3

Bottom line is that serious problems and corruption at the agency were not only well known, but notorious -and many of those same sorts of problems are also open and notorious at other agencies (still) like The Mine Safety and Health Administration (MSHA).

And- just as a reminder about other past due accounts, what ever happened to the SEC staff who were complicit in Madoff's and Stanford's schemes?
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 01:06 AM
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30. Your link is not functioning.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 04:00 AM
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31. Then you'll need to run a date linited search for yourself to read the report
You can do that here: http://www.gao.gov/
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 11:23 AM
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20. And Then There's This:
"Who cares, it's done, end of story, will probably be fine."

Already become its own little internet meme:

http://www.fark.com/cgi/comments.pl?IDLink=5405047

---------------------------------------

"Who cares, it's done, end of story, will probably be fine."






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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 06:42 PM
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22. Gulf skeptical of Obama's " PART-TIME" recovery chief
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gulf_oil_spill_cleanup_czar

Gulf skeptical of Obama's " PART-TIME" recovery chief

By MATT APUZZO and EMILY WAGSTER PETTUS, Associated Press Writers Matt Apuzzo And Emily Wagster Pettus, Associated Press Writers – Fri Jun 18, 3:01 pm ET

JACKSON, Miss. – Gulf Coast environmentalists and business owners are skeptical of President Barack Obama's plan to have his point man for recovery perform his job part-time. And they're worried the cleanup will become mired in bureaucratic deliberations.

Obama tapped Navy Secretary and former Mississippi Gov. Ray Mabus this week for an amorphous second job leading the environmental and economic recovery. His job is no less than rebuilding a region that was still suffering from Hurricane Katrina and beset by decades of environmental problems even before the largest oil spill in U.S. history.

Unlike President George W. Bush's pick to lead Katrina's recovery, Mabus is not stepping down from his day job, in which he oversees 900,000 Navy and Marine personnel.

"The president is confident that Governor Mabus is going to be able to provide the leadership that's necessary to do both these jobs," White House spokesman Bill Burton said Friday.

Others felt differently, adding to their criticism that Obama has not responded quickly or forcefully enough to the spill.

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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 06:46 PM
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23. Two crimes here - the actual cover up and the American Governments
subservience to British Petroleum. At this point, I'm long past the point of caring anymore who is to blame - I think this might be it for the human race. And all this time I thought it would be a mushroom cloud. Boy how stupid can I be! Not the military, a corporation stupid!
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 07:25 PM
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24. Quote of the year.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 08:42 PM
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25. Have you heard of the "BP and the Three Pigs Memo"?
Enjoy and prepare to be further enraged!!

http://www.inweekly.net/article.asp?artID=11532

<snip>
Throughout his work on the case, Coon used a Three Little Pigs analogy to illustrate the cost/benefit analysis that he believed BP used to choose the less expensive buildings, with the trailers representing straw or sticks, versus stronger material the lawyer said should have been used. But whenever Coon brought up the fairy tale, he says that BP’s attorneys objected
<snip>

The Document
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-05-25/shocking-bp-memo-and-the-oil-spill-in-the-gulf/full/
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 08:50 PM
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26. Tme?!1 Date?1 (not today) n/t
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 08:53 PM
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27. K & R !!!
:kick:
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