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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:06 PM
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BP Deepwater Horizon is not a US well
The platform is governed by maritime law and belongs under the regulatory jurisdiction of the country under which it is flagged. BP Deepwater Horizon is flagged under the Republic of Marshall Islands.


Oil rig operated under a patchwork of authority

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/OILSPILL-AUTHORITY-EXCLUSIVE_2596981/OILSPILL-AUTHORITY-EXCLUSIVE_2596981/

WASHINGTON — The Deepwater Horizon oil rig that exploded in the Gulf of Mexico was built in South Korea. It was operated by a Swiss company under contract to a British oil firm. Primary responsibility for safety and other inspections rested not with the U.S. government but with the Republic of the Marshall Islands — a tiny, impoverished nation in the Pacific Ocean.

And the Marshall Islands, a maze of tiny atolls — some smaller than the ill-fated oil rig — outsourced many of its responsibilities to private companies.

Now, as the government tries to figure out what went wrong in the worst environmental catastrophe in U.S. history, this international patchwork of divided authority and sometimes conflicting priorities is emerging as a critical underlying factor in the crisis.

Under international law, offshore oil rigs like the Deepwater Horizon are treated as ships, not real estate. Even though the well spewing millions of gallons of oil from the ocean floor is located in U.S.-protected waters, oil companies are allowed to "register" the rigs that operate there with unlikely places such as the Marshall Islands, Panama and Liberia — reducing the U.S. government's role in inspecting and enforcing safety and other standards.


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This comes up now because the Coast Guard is taking this opportunity to highlight their need for more money both for current operations and proposed extended duties. The Coast Guard has consistently seen its budget cut year after year. :


Coast Guard: Money needed for new inspection duty
http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/ap/business/20100617_ap_coastguardmoneyneededfornewinspectionduty.html


WASHINGTON - The Coast Guard will need more money, manpower and training to conduct inspections if Congress decides to limit oil drilling in U.S. coastal waters to U.S.-flagged ships and drilling rigs, a Coast Guard official said Thursday.

Rear Adm. Kevin Cook, director of prevention policy, said the Coast Guard's resources for inspecting U.S.-flagged ships were stretched thin before the oil spill crisis. Most of the inspection responsibilities for foreign-flagged ships falls to the country where they are registered.

The Coast Guard has only 69 inspectors qualified to inspect deep-water drilling rigs like Deepwater Horizon, the BP rig that failed two months ago, Cook said. That rig was flagged by the Marshall Islands and is owned by Transocean Ltd., based in Switzerland.

"We would like to have more inspectors even for the current workload," Cook testified at a hearing of the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee. "We are doing some improvisation to make it all work."

There are 275 oil rigs involved in U.S. offshore drilling, at least 80 of which are foreign-flagged, according to information the Coast Guard and the Congressional Research Service supplied the committee. Among the countries flagging the rigs are Panama, Liberia, the Marshall Islands and Vanuatu, a volcanic island chain in the southwest Pacific Ocean. Most of the rigs are in the Gulf of Mexico, although a few are off the coast of Alaska and in other U.S. waters.

There are 442 other vessels that service and supply rigs in the Gulf of Mexico, more than 60 of which are foreign-flagged.

Rep. James Oberstar, D-Minn., chairman of the committee, said he wants to "Americanize" ships and rigs involved in oil drilling in the U.S. economic zone, which extends from the coast to 200 miles offshore. He said ships are being foreign-flagged because the companies that operate them don't want to have to meet U.S. safety and labor standards.

"The question is what capability does the Coast Guard have now to do all those inspections?" Oberstar asked.

"We'd have to invest in people and training," Cook replied. "Right now it would be a challenge to identify exactly what that additional workload would be."

Warren Weaver, Transocean's manager of regulatory compliance, said the company's decision to foreign flag oil rigs was "strictly logistical." He said the rigs, which are inspected by the countries where they are flagged, meet or exceed international standards.



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Many of these foreign flagged rigs in US waters are registered in The Republic of Marshall Islands. A Republic which has no money. "rigs, which are inspected by the countries where they are flagged, meet or exceed international standards"

Really?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:12 PM
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1. Thanks for this important info
Somebody had asked about this a few weeks ago in regards to how much legal standing the US really had.

Is this the way it's always been, or has anything happened with these laws in the last 10-30 years.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:18 PM
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4. Many changes have happened since NAFTA

Inspections aren't the biggest reason. Employment issues are the biggest cost saving reason. It is why all the cruise line ships are flying flags of tiny countries.

Labor laws, wages and taxes can be made up as they go along.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:53 PM
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9. Three pertinent laws
I'm just sticking these here so I've got a reference place to find them later, or if someone else wants to research them more.

Merchant Marine Act of 1936
The Merchant Marine Act of 1920, The “Jones Act”
The Ocean Shipping Reform Act of 1998
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 02:39 AM
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13. Flags of convenience have been about for centuries.
Register your shitty tramp freighter in Panama, and then sail it till it sinks and collect the insurance.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:14 PM
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2. Maritime law is interesting and flags of convenience abound
Few cruise ships are registered in the US...its a clue
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:14 PM
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3. Then should we be asking the Marshall Islands for escrow money?
It's about time that "nations of convenience" pay for their "externalities".

I'm not serious, of course. It's probably their only source of revenue other than stamps and bird poop.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:18 PM
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5. what are the practical implications?
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:23 PM
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7. Of reflagging all rigs in US waters?

Huge.

Many of these rigs have foreign underpaid workers. Many are understaffed. Many of the contractors who run the various operations of the rigs aren't registered to work in the US.
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:22 PM
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6. DAMN THE LAWYERS
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:38 PM
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8. Yeah, that's why they needed a permit from the Interior Department
The platform was within the 200-mile exclusive US economic zone.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 10:12 AM
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16. Thank you. They tried to float this meme right after it happened.
Surreal to see it back again.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 12:20 AM
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10. Well is not the same thing as rig.
The rig may be foreign flagged but the well most certainly is American.

It was drilled in US economic waters. It has approval of US government and was subject to US regulations (as weak as they are).

US well drilled by foreign rig.

The analogy would be saying that because their is a foreign construction equipment being used on a highway the highway is no foreign highway.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 12:56 AM
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11. Yes, I did use the wrong word in the title

And again yes, the hole in the ground is in US waters, but that hole is in ground was licensed out to BP, again not a US company.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 02:08 AM
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12. For once, I completely agree. Time to bring these EZ oil operations under USG control
and standards.

I guess we'll deal with the flag of convenience cruise ships after one of them sinks.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 09:47 AM
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14. Personally, I would insist on an Inspector remaining on a rig the entire time
it is use.. whether it is an exploratory rig or a well rig.. AND rotate them out so that the inspector on board isn't "bribed" to look the other way. We all know that when inspectors are around people do things the right way...As soon as they leave, its back to the old ways.
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REACTIVATED IN CT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 09:54 AM
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15. Agree - and have the company pay the freight for their
salaries. The royalties could be increased to cover that expense.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 10:16 AM
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17. The Marshall Islands are for all intents and purposes a US colony.
They use the US dollar and are dependent upon us for their defense. Neo-colonialism 101
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