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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:20 PM
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CNN: Americans too dumb to understand Obama’s speech
Language guru: Obama speech too 'professorial' for his target audience
By the CNN Wire Staff
June 17, 2010 -- Updated 1423 GMT (2223 HKT)

(CNN) -- President Obama's speech on the gulf oil disaster may have gone over the heads of many in his audience, according to an analysis of the 18-minute talk released Wednesday.

Tuesday night's speech from the Oval Office of the White House was written to a 9.8 grade level, said Paul J.J. Payack, president of Global Language Monitor. The Austin, Texas-based company analyzes and catalogues trends in word usage and word choice and their impact on culture.

Though the president used slightly less than four sentences per paragraph, his 19.8 words per sentence "added some difficulty for his target audience," Payack said.

He singled out this sentence from Obama as unfortunate: "That is why just after the rig sank, I assembled a team of our nation's best scientists and engineers to tackle this challenge -- a team led by Dr. Steven Chu, a Nobel Prize-winning physicist and our nation's secretary of energy."

"A little less professorial, less academic and more ordinary," Payack recommended. "That's the type of phraseology that makes you (appear) aloof and out of touch."

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/06/16/obama.speech.analysis/index.html
http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0617/cnn-americans-dumb-understand-obama/
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:21 PM
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1. Oy.
:banghead:
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:31 PM
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9. I'm with you! American's are victims of their own lowered expectations of themselves.
:banghead: Dumb it down! Don't challenge anyone. That'll be good for everybody! :banghead:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 10:58 PM
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14. And to think...
These are the same people who vote in the representatives that control the world's most deadly military force.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:03 PM
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15. My 2nd husband was a Libertarian and a good conversationalist, so I have acquired
some very real sympathy for this concern. It IS frightening.

But my answer isn't exclusion, but inclusion through more complete, more individually appropriate, life-long education.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:23 PM
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2. "His 'aw, shucks, you betcha' factor simply wasn't high enough
to reach Joe and Jane Drooling Moron."
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:24 PM
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3. And here on DU we have folks claiming that Obama dumbed down his speech...
because the U.S. citizenry is too stupid to grasp policy.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:24 PM
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4. Only the GOP has probs with the speech...most are illiterate or alliterate
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:25 PM
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5. That's why the chest thumping and blustering talk worked so
well. Reagans plan has worked....American's have officially been dumbed down.

This is ridiculous.....
<snip>
Though the president used slightly less than four sentences per paragraph, his 19.8 words per sentence "added some difficulty for his target audience," Payack said.
<snip>
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:26 PM
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6. My GOOD friend Bartcop has been saying for as long as I can remember...
That we are an "extra" stupid country.

When you consider that a good portion of the country couldn't find the Gulf on a map if you pointed a gun at them, and have NO idea that we have an "event" currently occurring there...

I believe that's true.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:27 PM
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7. Or, Ma'am: Americans Say CNN Too Dumb To Know It Gives A Fraud Air Time
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:27 PM
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8. Perhaps Obama should give all of his speeches from the American Idol stage.
Because anything more sophisticated than that is apparently lost on all the idiots out there. :eyes:
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:46 PM
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10. You should have included in your OP that the quoted linguist is a fraud. nt
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:50 PM
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11. Sounds like the fake linguist has an agenda to project the "elites" meme
"That's the type of phraseology that makes you (appear) aloof and out of touch."
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 10:02 PM
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12. The people who didn't understand that sentence weren't watching anyway. n/t
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 10:18 PM
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13. Better speech: "BP bad! Oil is thick and messy. Barack very sad. Must clean up. Bye-bye."
Americans might understand that.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:12 PM
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16. Since when is below a tenth grade level "professorial"?
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:17 PM
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17. Let's see how Abraham Lincoln spoke at his Second Inaugural Address...
Washington, D.C.
March 4, 1865

At this second appearing to take the oath of the presidential office, there is less occasion for an extended address than there was at the first. Then a statement, somewhat in detail, of a course to be pursued, seemed fitting and proper. Now, at the expiration of four years, during which public declarations have been constantly called forth on every point and phase of the great contest which still absorbs the attention, and engrosses the energies of the nation, little that is new could be presented. The progress of our arms, upon which all else chiefly depends, is as well known to the public as to myself; and it is, I trust, reasonably satisfactory and encouraging to all. With high hope for the future, no prediction in regard to it is ventured.

On the occasion corresponding to this four years ago, all thoughts were anxiously directed to an impending civil war. All dreaded it--all sought to avert it. While the inaugeral address was being delivered from this place, devoted altogether to saving the Union without war, insurgent agents were in the city seeking to destroy it without war--seeking to dissole the Union, and divide effects, by negotiation. Both parties deprecated war; but one of them would make war rather than let the nation survive; and the other would accept war rather than let it perish. And the war came.

One eighth of the whole population were colored slaves, not distributed generally over the Union, but localized in the Southern part of it. These slaves constituted a peculiar and powerful interest. All knew that this interest was, somehow, the cause of the war. To strengthen, perpetuate, and extend this interest was the object for which the insurgents would rend the Union, even by war; while the government claimed no right to do more than to restrict the territorial enlargement of it. Neither party expected for the war, the magnitude, or the duration, which it has already attained. Neither anticipated that the cause of the conflict might cease with, or even before, the conflict itself should cease. Each looked for an easier triumph, and a result less fundamental and astounding. Both read the same Bible, and pray to the same God; and each invokes His aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God's assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men's faces; but let us judge not that we be not judged. The prayers of both could not be answered; that of neither has been answered fully. The Almighty has his own purposes. "Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!" If we shall suppose that American Slavery is one of those offences which, in the providence of God, must needs come, but which, having continued through His appointed time, He now wills to remove, and that He gives to both North and South, this terrible war, as the woe due to those by whom the offence came, shall we discern therein any departure from those divine attributes which the believers in a Living God always ascribe to Him? Fondly do we hope--fervently do we pray--that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue, until all the wealth piled by the bond-man's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash, shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said "the judgments of the Lord, are true and righteous altogether"

With malice toward none; with charity for all; with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in; to bind up the nation's wounds; to care for him who shall have borne the battle, and for his widow, and his orphan--to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace, among ourselves, and with all nations.

http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln/speeches/inaug2.htm

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ShamelessHussy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:18 PM
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18. he's right, but since he didn't have many specific, NEW, actionable items in there
he didn't have much to work with... and they know this (target your speech to your audience) so maybe it was exactly what they wanted to deliver :shrug:

i believe that both BP and the Gov is looking at this situation more from a PR perspective than a catastrophe that requires BOLD action.

the facts on the ground will force the gov's hand eventually.
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