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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:06 PM
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Obama pronounces Gulf seafood safe to eat
THEODORE, Ala. – President Barack Obama says from the oil-stricken Gulf of Mexico that seafood from the region is safe to eat and announced a new coordinated effort to make sure it stays that way.

In remarks from Theodore, Ala., on Monday, Obama said that the government will step up its inspections and monitoring to help ensure that the Gulf Coast food industry is getting the kind of protection and certification it needs to sell its products around the country.

Obama said, "We don't want tragedies on top of the tragedy we're already seeing."

The president had high praise for the Gulf seafood he ate for lunch in Mississippi. He is in the region on a two-day trip.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100614/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gulf_oil_spill_obama_seafood
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:07 PM
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1. I hope he has kaopectate, acidophilus, imodium and lots of pumpkin
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:08 PM
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3. Pumpkin?
Does that absorb the oil? We will need these consumer tips going forward!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:13 PM
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10. Stops diarrhea..as do all the other recommendations.
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mrs_p Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 07:10 AM
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130. pumpkin is a wonder
as it works for diarrhea and constipation...
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:42 PM
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31. You won't notice the effect of the chemicals in the water for a number
of years. And when the effects become apparent, you will be told to lose weight and stop smoking. Never mind that you are neither obese nor a smoker.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 05:41 PM
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46. ..and I was thinking there would be some immediate effects...
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 01:27 AM
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111. In the sea water yes.
But I'm thinking some of these chemicals will find their way into some of the fresh water in the area, possibly even into the groundwater. I don't know this for a fact, but I think it is likely. Do you think I am wrong? That's what I mean by what I said. But you are right there will be some very obvious immediate effects especially with regard to the seawater and beaches. If people go swimming . . . .

But longterm health effects from these chemicals may be blamed on other things.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 06:13 AM
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126. You are right. Longterm effects are the real timebomb.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:08 PM
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2. Are they going to open the closed fishing areas?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:16 PM
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13. Around 60% is still open
Why would they open fishing areas that aren't safe?

http://sero.nmfs.noaa.gov/deepwater_horizon_oil_spill.htm
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:41 PM
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29. How is it ensured that a fish from an unsafe area doesn't travel to a
safe one to be caught?

I wouldn't eat any fish from the gulf.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:59 PM
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37. 8 labs are testing fish for safety
http://directorsblog.health.azdhs.gov/?p=348

"Our state public health laboratory Environmental & Analytical Chemistry unit has been selected as 1 of 8 chemistry laboratories across the country that will be examining commercial seafood for contaminants from the gusher in the Gulf."

I particularly like that "Gusher in the Gulf", I'm surprised none of the cables have created music and graphics yet.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 05:40 PM
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45. That is good to know.
Thanks for the info.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 05:45 PM
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49. I live on the Pacific
There is testing of seafood all the time for all kinds of contaminents and viruses. We don't even know how much of our food comes from China and who knows what the hell is in it.

But a chance to get all up in arms at our government - well hell that is just too good a time to pass up!!!

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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 02:54 AM
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114.  8 whole labs huh? Are they inspecting for oil and/or dispersant like they do feces?

Because here's how THAT works: USDA inspector looks at 1/(x)1000 specimens destined for sale. Looks at it. Declares they see no visible shit. Picks it up. Smells it. Declares they do not smell any shit in it.

And yet almost EVERY SINGLE OUNCE of ground meat sold in grocery stores across this country today is contaminated with E.coli RIGHT NOW. E. coli only comes from one place, food-safety wise, and that is the poop chute.


You go ahead and trust your red blood cells, your kidneys and you liver to them if you like.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 05:44 PM
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48. "I wouldn't eat any fish from the gulf.'`
That's not a question.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 05:54 PM
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57. You are right! It is a statement.
And, it will have absolutely zero effect on anyone! I can see it now. Some poor fisherman in the gulf cussing tekisui, of DU. "That son of a bitch just cost me my livelihood! I was hoping the President saying it was safe to keep eating my product would save me. Then, that damn tekisui, with all his power went and scared everybody away."

Like I said, get over yourself. And, no I am still not going to eat any fish from the gulf.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 07:12 PM
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62. You don't know much about fish, do you? Most of the species sold
from the Gulf live their entire lives in a limited area. They aren't pelagic fish. They're homebodies. Shrimp, oysters, and other non-fish seafood never go far from where they hatched. The fish being sold from the unaffected areas have never been anywhere near the impacted areas.

Again, have you ever eaten any fish from the Gulf? If not, then what you would do is irrelevant to the issue.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 07:24 PM
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67. That also is helpful.
Honestly, I doubt I have ever eaten any fish from the gulf. I don't eat much fish. I do like shrimp and scallops. I may or may not have eaten some from the gulf. But, I wouldn't now.

Sorry, but each step of this unfolding disaster has been tainted with lies, misinformation and inaccuracies. It is a natural reaction of an ecological disaster for people to not want to take a chance.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 07:36 PM
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71. It's very unlikely that the shrimp and scallops you ate came
from the Gulf unless you paid a premium price for them. More likely, they came from the Far East. That's where most of the shellfish we eat originates. I've never gotten sick from it, but I do worry about the conditions where it was caught. It's something to consider. Ask about the origins of any seafood you order or buy. You may be shocked. Some of the shrimp farms in the Far East are in heavily-polluted waters. We do some inspection, but not nearly enough. It's better to insist on local seafood, if you can. You'll have to pay more for it, but it's much safer.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 12:37 AM
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109. You are joking right?????? please tell me you are..wow just wow! eom
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 01:11 AM
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110. Ooooh what did I miss now?
:)
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 10:38 AM
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139. oh yeah sureeeeeeeeeeee...Shrimper caught with 19,000 lb of Shrimp from closed area
Shrimper caught in restricted waters with 19,000 lbs of shrimp I understand the need to make a living, I really do. Still I cannot condone selling poisoned seafood to unsuspecting consumers.


Coast Guard seizes shrimp from vessel found in closed fishing area

GRAND ISLE, La. - The Coast Guard seized approximately 19,000 pounds of shrimp 13 miles south of Belle Pass, La., Sunday, June 13, 2010, in a closed area due to the Deepwater Horizon oil spill.

Coast Guard Station Grand Isle received information that the fishing vessel Little Andrew was fishing in the restricted area. A Coast Guard 33-foot response boat and crew launched and boarded the vessel for inspection. During the inspection, approximately 19,000 pounds of white shrimp was found onboard the vessel. The shrimp was returned to the sea.

"NOAA has implemented a Federal Fisheries Closure to ensure public safety by preventing any fish or shellfish from being harvested in the waters affected by the Deepwater Horizon MC252 incident," said Lt. Bryan Harrell, a law enforcement duty officer for the Eighth Coast Guard District. "The Coast Guard is working closely with NOAA Office of Law Enforcement and the affected fishing communities to prevent the harvesting of any adulterated seafood."

The master of the Little Andrew was issued a written warning.

http://www.piersystem.com/go/doc/425/656527 /


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8561500
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 12:34 AM
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108. ohhh really? Oil Spill May Be Pushing Sharks Toward Fla. Beaches
Oil Spill May Be Pushing Sharks Toward Fla. Beaches
Edited on Sat Jun-12-10 02:03 PM by Angry Dragon
http://www.aolnews.com/gulf-oil-spill/article/oil-spill...

Laura Parker
June 11, 2010


"When we see deeper-water sharks this close to shore, it leads me to believe that something is going on," said Robert Hueter, director of the Center for Shark Research at the Mote Marine Laboratory in Sarasota. "The tiger shark was still alive, but disoriented and lethargic. That matches what toxicologists tell me are the effects of oil on other invertebrates."

snip

It is too early to say whether the sharks' appearance in coastal waters is connected with the spill. But Hueter does not see it as a good sign. He calls it a "Hmm moment -- what are we looking at here?"

Marine scientists also have logged recent sightings of sailfish, dolphin fish, mahimahi and other fish in coastal places they normally don't frequent. "Blackfin tuna are being caught by fishermen 10 miles from shore. Mahimahi don't come close to shore. That doesn't happen," Hueter said.

snip

For instance, research after other spills shows that animals' reproductive rates can be drastically harmed. Within a year after the 1989 Exxon Valdez spill in Alaska's Prince William Sound, a resident pod of 36 killer whales had lost 40 percent of its population, according to a report by the Exxon Valdez Oil Spill Trustee Council. The pod is reproducing today at only 70 percent of the rate of other pods that live permanently in Alaskan waters, the report said.


This is the concern, how long will the affects last for these animals and fish??

More interesting information in the article. http://www.aolnews.com/gulf-oil-spill/article/oil-spill...

***this was posted at Du sorry i don't have the Du link..but the poster of this thread is listed above.
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 04:38 AM
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121. I don't know if this is very scientific...but it does echo the Mote Marine Article...
... fishermen caught 8 Hammer Head Sharks yesterday (in Charlotte Harbor Florida)

Charlotte Harbor is brackish water.. a mixture of salt water from the Gulf and fresh water from the Peace River. The sharks were caught about 15 miles away from the Gulf.

I know Bull sharks will travel up-river into fresh water... but I have never seen Hammer Heads this far away from the Gulf of Mexico.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 07:36 PM
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157. Interesting info, thanks.
:thumbsup:
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:09 PM
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4. I don't give a damn what he says. I wouldn't touch that right now or any time
in the foreseeable future if you paid me.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:30 PM
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24. Did you eat Gulf seafood before the BP disaster?
Answer honestly, please.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 07:05 PM
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60. I prefer northern seafood myself. But considering what's going on in the Gulf
Edited on Mon Jun-14-10 07:09 PM by Raineyb
not buying gulf seafood is just common sense.

I also avoided Lower Manhattan even after Ghouliani declared it safe to enter. So what's your point?

Do you have a problem with me putting my well being ahead of a politician's proclamations?
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 07:20 PM
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66. No, no problem. But, if you don't eat Gulf seafood anyhow,
what does it matter to you? I'm puzzled by that. You're welcome not to eat it, even though what will come to market is as safe as it ever was. Delicious, too.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 07:34 PM
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70. It matters to me because it reeks of the happy talk politicians engage in
when they're trying to get the public not to pay as close attention to a clusterfuck as they ought to. I didn't like it when they told everyone how safe the air was in Lower Manhattan (and it turned out it wasn't no surprise there) and I don't like it now. It's way too early with far too little information to declare the seafood safe. They can't even get the goddamn gusher stopped. So I wouldn't touch it with any foot pole and will stick to Pacific salmon thank you.

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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 08:38 PM
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74. so it doesn't matter that the fish they caught weren't anywhere near the oil?
let's bring down what's left of their fishing industry on top of the other shit they're going through!!
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 04:46 AM
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122. You keep repeating the same thing...
Edited on Tue Jun-15-10 04:49 AM by Shining Jack
...to anyone who dares questioning Obama's claim that it's safe to eat seafood from the Gulf:

"Do you eat or have you ever eaten Gulf seafood ?" I don't eat seafood or fish,I'm allergic.
But there are millions of people who do and some of them will take the risk of eating potentially toxic fish because of all those reassuring words.It may be a foreign concept to you but this is not all about me,myself and I.People who I'll never meet or interact
with could get seriously sick and that is bothering me a lot.Not you ? "But,if you don't eat Gulf seafood anyhow,what does it matter
to you? I'm puzzled by that." Hum,since it's puzzling you so much then I guess it doesn't.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 10:44 AM
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140. I won't eat local seafood at this point. I live a few miles east of Biloxi, MS.
Edited on Tue Jun-15-10 10:46 AM by Selatius
Every damn day, the stench of oil is being brought ashore by the winds, so I know the oil isn't far away. There is no guarantee that the fish you catch near the shore wasn't the same fish that was swimming out there where the oil is. No guarantee. In fact, I went fishing the other day for fun's sake, but I and my friends threw back all the fish we caught. It sucks for the local seafood industry; it really does, but BP is the one that should be stepping up to keep the fishing industry afloat, not ordinary folks. Maybe it's time for the ones who caused this mess to subsidize the stricken fishermen instead of everybody else.

If I lived on the Texas shore or Miami or Tampa Bay, it'd be a different story, but as it stands, I live a few miles from the muck that's murdering the ocean.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 03:41 PM
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148. That makes sense. I think most of the people in this discussion,
though live far from the area.

I'm really upset that the sport fishing industry, particularly in Plaquemines Parish, has been wiped out. I know that one resort owner completely rebuilt after Katrina, taking a long time to get the project done. Now, just as the resort opens for business, this happens. I imagine similar stories are happening all over the area. It's a damned shame. Those poor people.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:10 PM
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5. I won't buy it
I will wait until I go back up North to get flounder and sole, or buy frozen Taiwan shrimp.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:31 PM
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25. Ah, farmed shrimp from the sewers of Taiwan. YUM!
Do you have any idea where those shrimp are raised?
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:36 PM
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28. I won't eat an oyster that is south of Cotuit MA.
As for shrimp, I DID eat it wild caught from the Gulf but it has gotten so expensive I can't afford it any more.

I don't buy anything but USA or Canadian fish/seafood.
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 05:12 PM
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38. I bet you put beans in your chili too.
:)
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 07:17 PM
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64. I've been forced to do so up here, but not when I was in Texas.
I am a 3rd generation TExan by birth, a New Englander by choice.

Until you experience the fine oysters from the cold Atlantic waters, you will not know what I am talking about. Exquisite...especially the ones on Martha's Vineyard...wonderful...
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 05:34 PM
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42. Mmm, chloramphenicol. Tasty**nm
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:11 PM
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6. Good news is the fish is pre-oiled
Even after cleaning. :9
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:27 PM
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22. And treated with toxic (and possibly carcinogenic) dispersants.
Edited on Mon Jun-14-10 04:27 PM by inna
:shrug:
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:11 PM
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7. Fer realz???
Edited on Mon Jun-14-10 04:12 PM by whatchamacallit
I can't imagine he would knowingly promote something risky, but I also can't imagine how such a blanket assurance could be taken seriously...
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:12 PM
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8. Let's hope these aren't BP talking points
Something sounds a little fishy, kind of like the air at Ground Zero being perfectly safe to breathe.

That said, I wish no ill will to the men and women who work hard to create the Gulf coast seafood industry.

It's not their fault if the seafood is toxic.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:41 PM
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30. 'Something sounds a little fishy'
Rim shot :)
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 02:48 PM
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143. Maybe I'll try some of that seafood, just for the halibut
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 09:30 PM
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80. EPA reports of Ground Zero was my first thought, too.
I can understand wanting to comfort a panicking region, but I also know the difference between comfort and a lie. :shrug:
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:12 PM
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9. And if you are going to fry it you don't need to add oil. n/t
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:20 PM
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17. It's the South. We fry everything. nt
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 03:14 AM
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116. Is there any other way to cook? n/t
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 10:00 AM
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133. Well, dripping in gravy has its virtues.
:)
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:14 PM
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11. There's a very large percentage of the Gulf that is unaffected
by BP's disaster. Seafood from those areas is perfectly safe to eat. Fishing is not being allowed in the affected areas, so seafood from the Gulf that is reaching the market now is perfectly safe.
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:16 PM
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14. And since there's no possibility of fish swimming in and out of the effected areas...
:think:
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:29 PM
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23. You really don't understand how large the Gulf is, do you?
Or how small a territory most fish and all shrimp occupy? It's a shame. It really is.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:42 PM
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32. A great amount of the gulf is cloased to fishing:
http://sero.nmfs.noaa.gov/sf/deepwater_horizon/BP_OilSpill_FisheryClosureMap_060710.pdf

It may be that only 40% of fishing areas are closed, but that is still a lot, and doesn't make me feel better about eating gulf seafood.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 07:10 PM
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61. You eat whatever you want.
If I find Gulf seafood in my local area, I'll choose it in a second over Far East seafood. And you're right. Only about 40% of the Gulf is closed to fishing, and that includes a lot of area that isn't even contaminated. The other 60%, and that's just US Federal waters, has not been contaminated. The critters that live in that uncontaminated area are as wholesome as they ever were.

When did you last eat Gulf seafood? That's a question I'd like an answer to. Ever? If not, then I don't see that anything has changed for you. Odds are that you haven't, since you have to actually seek it out if you're not in the area, and you have to pay more for it, since it's better than the crap being imported from Taiwan, Singapore, and Thailand. Fresher. More wholesome, and better for you.

That's why it costs more and is worth that cost.

So, if your seafood eating happens in restaurants not in the Gulf states, I can virtually guarantee that you're not eating Gulf seafood. It's too expensive and, when it does appear on the menu, is distinctly called out, since it will be at a premium price.

Personally, I don't care whether or not you eat seafood from the Gulf. I do, when I can find it and can afford it. I will continue to do so. Those Gulf fishermen are counting on us to continue to buy the fruits of their labor. You are for supporting honest working people, right?
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:53 PM
Response to Reply #23
36. Well there it is
Expert on marine biology and toxicology, Mineral Man, says it's 100% safe. Nothing like an internet forum for know-it-alls...
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 08:33 PM
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73. ...
:rofl:
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 02:52 PM
Response to Reply #23
145. Wouldn't your argument be better in the reverse proportions?
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 05:17 PM
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39. Okay self-proclaimed expert, how far do catfish and reds swim?
We have over 600 miles of coastline in Texas, how long before the affected fish migrate to here?
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 07:17 PM
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63. Well, catfish are freshwater fish, and most are farm-raised these days,
so you're good there. Almost all commercially-sold catfish is farm-raised. Redfish in the Gulf area don't travel far. They don't need to. Most of them hatched in an estuary right near where you catch them. Plenty of food to eat right where they are, so there they stay. Enjoy some blackened redfish soon.
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 06:19 PM
Response to Reply #63
153. Gafftop
Not sure what they're called elsewhere. Actually a rather beautiful fish, unless you're the reckless type when unhooking them :)
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 06:55 PM
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154. True. That is a saltwater catfish. Not much of a commercial
market for them, though. I've never caught one, but I've sure caught a lot of channel cats up here in the northern reaches of the Mississippi. Largest was 30 lb.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:17 PM
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15. I bought some prawns from Louisiana
Edited on Mon Jun-14-10 04:18 PM by CountAllVotes
they are still selling them at a higher price now and they were caught before the spill. Very, very good btw and they keep frozen for about 1 year.

After they run out I don't think they'll be selling any more shrimp they said; they do sell other things besides shrimp luckily.

:dem:
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:15 PM
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12. Talk to me after hurricane season.

Who knows where that shit will end up?

Kill Capitalism
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:19 PM
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16. Pass.
I wonder if he's gonna feed it to his family.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 10:21 AM
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137. heheh.
:evilgrin:
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:21 PM
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18. Keep digging, Barack.
:(
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 08:41 PM
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75. completely uninformed opinions make me giggle.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 12:06 AM
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107. +1
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limit18 Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:22 PM
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19. Hope he doesn't come down with a case of
Gringo Gallop!
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:24 PM
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20. How the hell could he know that?

p.r. flacking is not needed right now.
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:26 PM
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21. Mmmmm...oil covered seafood...
:eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

Why does this not surprise me?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:32 PM
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26. This must may that Cajun "blackened" seafood everyone raves about.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 09:48 PM
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82. That's not funny, that's sick.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:34 PM
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27. You first, Barack
Let's see you take a big bite of BP sauteed fish on live TV tomorrow night, and then I'll be sure to buy some, OK?
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 10:16 PM
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89. He did eat Gulf seafood.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 02:53 PM
Response to Reply #89
146. Great! Keep it up! Eat two months from now, too!
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:45 PM
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33. Do we REALLY think fresh caught Gulf seafood will be on the White House menu? nt
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:47 PM
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34. Ouch! That is one I suspect he will live to regret.
Ouch!
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LuvNewcastle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:52 PM
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35. I've been eating shrimp
since the season started this year and they look/smell/taste just fine and I haven't been sick. If everyone else doesn't buy them, I guess that's just more for me.:P
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 06:57 PM
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59. Well, you dig right on in!
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 05:19 PM
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40. inspections, done behind closed doors of course
inspections right
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Moosepoop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 05:29 PM
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41. Should they set up laboratories on the beach?
Sure, that would work. :P
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 05:42 PM
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47. No, thank you.
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 05:48 PM
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54. But, but, but...
those fisherman need to feed their families too! :eyes:
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 05:46 PM
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50. I hate when our president comes out and says...
things that the average American will respond to by thinking, "no f*#$ing way".
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 05:46 PM
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51. Maybe if they buy it frozen from Costco
:(
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 05:48 PM
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52. Where are the seafood diner photo-ops like there was for BBQ in Asheville? n/t
Edited on Mon Jun-14-10 05:48 PM by Subdivisions
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 05:48 PM
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53. I'm sure he believes it
Since he believes he can come up with new regulations that will allow oil companies to drill "safely" five miles beneath the ocean, and never again have a blowout, then I'm sure he can also believe that the fish caught there will be "safe".

For me, not so much.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 05:49 PM
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55. unrec
Bluebear's constant attempts to denigrate the President are getting tiresome.
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 10:21 PM
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92. Agreed. n/t
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 04:17 AM
Response to Reply #55
120. Rec back.

So you believe that bullshit ?

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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 06:51 AM
Response to Reply #120
129. Another rec to offset his.
If Obama picked up seafood and dipped it directly into oil and dispersant, some here would still believe it was safe to eat if he said it was. :D
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 03:45 PM
Response to Reply #55
149. Rec to offset your baseless unrec.
You think you're on Obama's internet security team. :rofl:
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faceit Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 05:50 PM
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56. The article says that monitoring agencies are really slow to bring new information to the public

I think this is a really risky pronouncement.

I think I will pass on the seafood & stick to stuff caught off the coast here in New England
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 06:38 PM
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58. my usual answer to anyone proclaiming something as *safe* to eat is
You first.

I'm sure the White House chefs can whip something FABULOUS up with Gulf shrimp just caught today. :eyes:

After all, it's not like the FDA has had any regulator cut backs or anything like that in the last decade, is there? :sarcasm:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 07:18 PM
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65. Not Buyin It... No, Literally... I'm NOT Buyin It...
Not sure I can trust our government regulators anymore.

I'll be eating locally produced foodstuffs (which I normally do anyway), but will not be buying any seafood from the Gulf. Not for the foreseeable future anyway.

E-Coli... Mad Cow... (NOT seafoods, I know)... But bad Scoobies form the past...

We'll see how all this plays out...

:shrug:
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 07:30 PM
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68. And "oil rigs today generally don't cause spills."
nt
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 09:21 PM
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79. +
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 07:32 PM
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69. I cannot read this...please, OH
PLEASE, someone tell me this is a fluke? Seafood from the Gulf is safe? OMG...Barak we hardly knew ye :cry:
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 07:56 PM
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72. I'm sorry Gulf fisherman but I won't because of the Corexit
The government should have thought of that before dumping the toxins into the sea.

BP's friends over at Nalco assure us the Corexit, banned in most countries, is perfectly safe. Yeah, right.

In real news however
BP oil spill Corexit dispersants suspected in widespread crop damage

...

Corexit is is four times more toxic than oil (oil is toxic at 11 ppm (parts per million), Corexit 9500 at only 2.61ppm).

...

It seems like damage brought by the oil gusher has spread way beyond the ocean, coastal areas and beaches. Collateral damage now appears to include agricultural damage way inland Mississippi.

A mysterious "disease" has caused widespread damage to plants from weeds to farmed organic and conventionally grown crops. There is very strong suspicion that ocean winds have blown Corexit aerosol plumes or droplets and that dispersants have caused the unexplained widespread damage or "disease".

...
There is no other explanation for the crop damage. Everything points to something that has a widespread effect on plants and crops. While no one precisely knows, all the signs point to BP's use of aerosolized Corexit brought inland by the ocean winds or rain.

Remember acid rain? Now it seems we could have toxic dispersant rain.

Video here: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ybenjamin/detail??blogid=150&entry_id=65552

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ybenjamin/detail??blogid=150&entry_id=65552#ixzz0qsWRRFOw




Food Consumer has nothing positive to say about Corexit's health *benefits* http://www.foodconsumer.org/newsite/Non-food/Environment/the_bp_oil_spill_may_be_bad_1206100628.html





PRESS RELEASE

May 27, 2010, 9:09 a.m. EDT

Nalco Releases Additional Technical Information on COREXIT

NAPERVILLE, Ill., May 27, 2010 (GlobeNewswire via COMTEX) -- COREXIT 9500, the only dispersant Nalco is manufacturing to help break up the oil spilling into the Gulf of Mexico, is a simple blend of six well-established, safe ingredients that biodegrade, do not bioaccumulate and are commonly found in popular household products, the company said today. The COREXIT products do not contain carcinogens or reproductive toxins. All the ingredients have been extensively studied for many years and have been determined safe and effective by the EPA.

"Over the past few days, there has been substantial misunderstanding about the nature and composition of our product," said Erik Fyrwald, President and CEO of Nalco. "COREXIT has played a significant role in mitigating the disastrous consequences of the Gulf oil spill and has done so effectively and safely.

"To be clear, we have made available to government regulators all information related to the product, its ingredients and how it interacts with the environment. As always, we remain willing to work with the government in their efforts to minimize the ecological effects that the oil is having on the Gulf's precious natural resources."

Mr. Fyrwald cited recent statements by EPA Administrator Lisa P. Jackson and Rear Admiral Mary E. Landry, who both have described the beneficial impact that dispersants have had in the Gulf. During a press conference on May 24, Administrator Jackson said the results of dispersant testing have been "positive." She added: "Our tracking indicates that the dispersants are breaking up the oil and speeding its biodegradation, with limited environmental impact at this time."

Admiral Landry added that without the timely use of dispersants, "much more" oil would have reached the shoreline from the ruptured pipe in the Gulf.

Additional technical information about COREXIT, its composition and its features follows.

Composition


-- Examples of everyday products with specific ingredients in common with
COREXIT 9500 include:






-- One ingredient is used as a wetting agent in dry gelatin, beverage
mixtures, and fruit juice drinks.

-- A second ingredient is used in a brand-name dry skin cream and also in a
body shampoo.

-- A third ingredient is found in a popular brand of baby bath liquid.

-- A fourth ingredient is found extensively in cosmetics and is also used
as a surface-active agent and emulsifier for agents used in food
contact.

-- A fifth ingredient is used by a major supplier of brand name household
cleaning products for "soap scum" removal.

-- A sixth ingredient is used in hand creams and lotions, odorless paints
and stain blockers.






Safety


-- Data published by Environment Canada, that country's main environmental
agency, in 1991 showed common household dish soap as having a
substantially higher rainbow trout toxicity than COREXIT 9527. Put
another way, COREXIT 9527 is more than 7 times safer than dish soap.
COREXIT 9500 is the next generation of COREXIT products and features an
improved formula.

-- Lisa P. Jackson, Administrator, EPA said at the May 24 press
briefing,"Our tracking indicates that the dispersants are breaking up
the oil and speeding its biodegradation, with limited environmental
impact at this time."

-- According to Ms. Jackson, "We know that dispersants are less toxic than
oil. We know that surface use of dispersants decreases the risk to
shorelines and organisms at the surface when they are properly applied."






Biodegradation


-- A March, 1994, report created by France's Institut National de
L'Enviroenment Industriel et des Risques indicated that COREXIT 9500
largely biodegraded in 28 days. COREXIT oil dispersant was first applied
to the Gulf oil slick on April 23.






Bioaccumulation


-- Based on modeling using US EPA software (as part of the EPI Suite v4.0,
2009), none of the COREXIT product components pose a risk of
bioaccumulating.






Concentration


-- At 840,000 gallons, the amount of dispersant in the region of the 3,850
square-mile slick represents an average concentration of about 30 parts
per billion to the 10 meters of depth the dispersant will go -- even
without factoring in that a substantial portion of the product has
already biodegraded.

-- By comparison, the EPA allows drinking water to contain
non-biodegradable contaminants -- including carcinogens and reproductive
toxins -- that exceed the level of biodegradable chemicals present in
COREXIT in the Gulf.






Application


-- COREXIT is meant to be used at sea -- away from the shoreline and has
been used in more than 30 countries, including Sweden, France,
Australia, Norway and Canada. Aerial spraying of dispersant is not to
take place within 2 miles of a boat or 3 miles of a shoreline. With
30-mile per hour winds, the maximum expected drift for the dispersant is
2,000 feet. Spraying of dispersant from boats should only be done with
personal protective equipment. Mists of the dispersant will not stray
far from the boat given the proximity of the spray to the surface of the
water.






For additional information about the use of dispersants, visit http://www.nalco.com/news-and-events/nalco-oil-dispersant-information.htm.

About Nalco

Nalco is the world's leading water treatment and process improvement company, delivering significant environmental, social and economic performance benefits to our customers. We help our customers reduce energy, water and other natural resource consumption, enhance air quality, minimize environmental releases and improve productivity and end products while boosting the bottom line. Together our comprehensive solutions contribute to the sustainable development of customer operations. Nalco is a member of the Dow Jones Sustainability World Index. More than 11,500 Nalco employees operate in 150 countries supported by a comprehensive network of manufacturing facilities, sales offices and research centers to serve a broad range of end markets. In 2009, Nalco achieved sales of more than $3.7 billion. For more information visit www.nalco.com.

Follow us on Twitter at www.twitter.com/Nalco_News and www.twitter.com/NalcoCompany.

The Nalco Company logo is available at http://www.globenewswire.com/newsroom/prs/?pkgid=1135

This news release was distributed by GlobeNewswire, www.globenewswire.com

SOURCE: Nalco Company

CONTACT: Nalco Company
Media Contact:
Charlie Pajor
630 305 1556
cpajor@nalco.com
Investor Contact:
Mike Bushman
630 305 1025
mbushman@nalco.com

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/nalco-releases-additional-technical-information-on-corexit-2010-05-27?reflink=MW_news_stmp
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 08:46 PM
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76. Then eat it while you can because there will be a lot of commercial
Edited on Mon Jun-14-10 08:46 PM by mmonk
fisherman, shrimpers, and processing sea food market facilities out of business there soon.
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FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 08:46 PM
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77. Want more? Similar cat fights at this thread - same subject:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 09:13 PM
Response to Reply #77
78. I tried but 90% of that thread is "ignored"
:)
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 03:25 AM
Response to Reply #78
118. It was for me too.
That's odd. It must have been a real shit ripper of a flame war.
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FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 06:35 AM
Response to Reply #118
127. Just some polite repartee between those that still believe Obama can do no wrong and
well, the rest of the shall we say 'clear eyed' community here. There may have been a dust up here and there, I suppose...
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FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 06:38 AM
Response to Reply #78
128. I may be naive but what does that mean? That you have them on "ignore"? I am
able to see the tread... Is it blocked somehow for others?
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 03:47 PM
Response to Reply #128
150. I think he meant it's full of IGNORE.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 09:34 PM
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81. This whole thing reminds me of a movie that most of you probably know
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 05:01 AM
Response to Reply #81
123. Wow...
I had that scene in mind while reading this thread and before clicking on the link I
was pretty sure that it would be exactly that.:)
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 09:50 PM
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83. It'll show up in petfood. nt
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 09:59 PM
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84. I'd rather eat anything coming out of the unaffected areas of the Gulf vs East Asia any day
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 10:07 PM
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86. 'the unaffected areas of the Gulf'
Exceptin' that fish can swim through affected areas and then end up on your plate!
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 10:15 PM
Response to Reply #86
87. Except most fish don't travel that far
Neither does shrimp. :shrug:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 10:23 PM
Response to Reply #87
94. Dig in, then :) - - - Crawfish 'n Corexit Etouffee!
Edited on Mon Jun-14-10 10:24 PM by Bluebear
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 10:54 PM
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106. Crawfish are freshwater n/t
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 02:34 AM
Response to Reply #106
113. Oh.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 03:28 AM
Response to Reply #113
119. Well, that's only the UNmutated crawfish nt
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 02:39 PM
Response to Reply #119
141. Hey, if they all grow 5 claws, more's the better
:silly:
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 10:25 PM
Response to Reply #87
96. Except that our government does not have a fucking clue of the scope of this disaster
Do they know where the giant underwater plumes of oil are? Do they know where the dispersant toxins are?

For crying out loud they do not even know how much oil is gushing out of that fucking well.

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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 10:07 AM
Response to Reply #86
134. They tend to float pretty quick after 'passing through affected areas.'
Once oil coats gills, fishie-go-bye-bye. Telling contaminated from non-contaminated should not be that difficult. The ones still swimming are OK.

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Umbral Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 10:06 PM
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85. For some reason, I'm reminded of Blinky the three eyed fish... nt
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 05:59 AM
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125. Lol,I thought the same thing when reading the tittle.
"Come on Mr President,just one bite.This one is really from the Gulf."



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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 10:16 PM
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88. EPIC FAIL!!!
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 10:19 PM
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90. You don't believe that tested fish from unaffected areas are safe to eat?
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 10:27 PM
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97. There there no part of the Gulf that will remain "unaffected".
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 10:29 PM
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98. Perhaps.
But wouldn't one of the 8 labs continuously testing pick up on that?
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 10:20 PM
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91. Eat Gulf seafood and go shopping...
Jesus H. God on a pogo stick. :banghead:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 10:31 AM
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138. I'm thinking of Duhbya here.
:silly:
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 10:23 PM
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93. Watch out.
Be careful what you say about Obama around here.

I would not eat any seafood from the Gulf knowing the dispersants they are pumping in there.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 10:25 PM
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95. The gulf encompasses 7,000 miles of coastline and a huge amount of ocean.
Some seafood may be contaminated and some may not be. I am all for the govt. testing it and really, those tests will give us great info on how the sea life has been effected so far.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 10:31 PM
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99. Goverment tests showed the air was fine at Ground Zero too.
See, fool us once... People are skeptical of what they are "assured" by the government anymore, which is sad.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 10:40 PM
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104. But do we not want the govt. to do anything anymore? Don't eat the seafood then.
Edited on Mon Jun-14-10 10:43 PM by Jennicut
But testing is still a very valuable tool and who else will do it, BP's scientists? Don't take the govt. at face value but they do have a job to do here.
Also Christine Todd Whitman was the head of the EPA then. Lisa Jackson is the head now, the same person who said carbon dioxide and five other greenhouse gases a threat to public health.

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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 05:51 AM
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124. "See, fool us once..."
Lol,I read that as "Seafood us once..."
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 10:35 PM
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101. ...let us just not forget that over ONE MILLION gallons
of oil are being pumped into it every DAMN DAY.

And NO ONE knows the amount of the dispersant they are pumping in, which is pure poison.

Read a bit ok? Get educated and then come back and post.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 10:37 PM
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102. Yup. Crist
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 10:37 PM
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103. Well thank the enviro-gods! Killing them to eat? Tasty. Smothering them in oil?
Criminal.

Pathetic.

Yes, come down to the Gulf coast and feast on dead animals while you wail and gnash against the deaths of others because of the spill...while you can.

:eyes:
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 10:40 PM
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105. OMG. It isn't from the ONION??
That is sickening.
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William Z. Foster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 01:35 AM
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112. unfortunately
Unfortunately with contaminated food pouring in from China, and a completely collapsed and corrupted public food safety infrastructure, bland reassurances about what is and what is not safe to eat suggest a profound ignorance of the actual reality that American consumers and eaters now face.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 03:01 AM
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115. He also told us Oil Rigs were safe!
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 03:20 AM
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117. I pronounce he is full of shit on this one...
or soon will be.

:hide:
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mrs_p Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 07:16 AM
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131. good to know the president approves
but i prefer my seafood from the northern pacific, as a native washingtonian...
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 08:02 AM
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132. Fish oil is good for ya!
:sarcasm:
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 02:50 PM
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144. lol! yeah, it's rich in Omega something or others thats for sure!!
:D
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 10:09 AM
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135. I saw this episode of the Simpsons. n/t
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 10:17 AM
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136. Apparently Texas seafood wasn't fit to eat even BEFORE the BP spill.
January of 2009 the Texas Department of State Health Services released a public report warning Texans to eat "only younger, smaller fish" caught in our state (fresh or salt water). My understanding of the "Guide to Eating Texas Fish and Crabs" is that due primarily to emissions and effluents being generated by our state's power plants, refineries, and manufacturers Texas fish and shellfish are no longer safe to eat. Period.

http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/seafood/PDF2/Guide%20to%20Eating%20Texas%20Fish%20and%20Crabs_2009%20Edition.pdf
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 02:41 PM
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142.  But, as you see, it’s a beautiful day, the beaches are open and people are having a wonderful time.
Edited on Tue Jun-15-10 03:00 PM by WinkyDink
So said the Mayor of Amity.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 03:50 PM
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151. Cue sound of shark approaching...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 03:03 PM
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 03:52 PM
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152. Umm...no disrespect Sir, but you first....
..Me? I like my internal organs fully functional thank you very much..
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 07:03 PM
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155. Drinking Drano is very healthy for you too.
Loaded with Anti-Oxidants. :eyes:

I think at this point I am morbidly observing all of this as it unfolds waiting to see how sepctacularly epic our fall as a Nation will be.

It won't be long before we are told The Earth, is indeed, flat.

You laugh now.....

It's coming.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 07:27 PM
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156. I laugh at nothing about the US government anymore!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 03:49 PM
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158. Obama also said: "Oil rigs these days don't spill" 'n latest "Gulf will bounce back" -- !!!
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