Millions of men over 45 men just don't feel like they use to...

[WCGreen]

No fucking shit.

I'm over 45. I ain't 25 anymore.

I can't play shortstop anymore.

My pants are a sckootch tighter. (No they aren't. I realized that over time my weight shifts. 36' waist is the new 34' waste...)

And I sometime have to take a pee and nothing comes out for a while. (They have a pill for that, I am told.)

Guess what Mister Madison Avenue demographic parsing man.

I am getting older.

If all I ever do is worry about trying to be 25, 35 or even 45 again, how can I possibly enjoy being 52?

So you know how I handle getting older?

I read more now.

People actually ask me for my "sage" advice and sometimes even take it to heart.

I can go someplace now and look forward to the getting there as well as the pleasure of being there.

I enjoy the little things life has to offer more and more as I grow older.

My suggestion for a long enjoyable life.

Enjoy it as you go along.

[nickinSTL]

1. heh. the focus on youth annoys the heck out of me

I'm 37 - not really old, but old enough to recognize that there are some things I can't do like I could at 20.

And that's ok.

It's also ok that my hair is thinning and that I'm getting gray hair and wrinkles. That's the way life works.

Some parts of aging are unpleasant - you find ways to cope. The alternative to aging is a permanent solution. Hiding aging is not - and plastic surgery, the most extreme method seems to leave you looking inhuman and older than you really are 10 years later.

I hate the "everyone must look 25" crap. No - if you're 35 and have gray hair - THAT IS OK. Virtually every woman I know from the age of 30 to 50 colors her hair to hide the gray. WHY? Why does society demonize age the way it does?

:mad:

[Javaman]

57. wong spot. nt

[SoCalDem]

85. Marketing is always targeted at youth.. They want to "catch them young"

and hold their loyalty-buying for a lifetime.

It's odd too because the older one gets, the more available money there is (usually, until lately)

In some ways I think there is TOO MUCH advertising to older folks.. I am sick to death of all the medicine ads & the "disease of the moment" advertising done by lawyers who want you to call them, and the investment (Hah!) ads.. I almost miss the ads for cereal & toothpaste & shampoo & everyday stuff..

I especially loathe the "feel-good" ads for locomotives & oil & clean (hah!) coal & scientology

of course in our house we usually pre-record stuff and start watching it about 15 minutes into it, so we can fastforward through the ads :)...or just use the mute button

[izquierdista]

2. Take a Cialis

That'll turn back the clock for a while.

[WCGreen]

5. You know it just takes a little bit longer...

And that is the joy of making love as you get older. It's a much more sensual experience...

[Atman]

33. I'm 51. I went snowboarding 25 times last season. Now playing beach volleyball.

Sure I have aches and pains I didn't used to have. But I ain't sitting in a Barcalounger watching tv until I drop dead. Oh, and I'm still wearing 34s.

[Atman]

53. Bwhaha! The dangers of PUI (Posting Under the Influence).

This was supposed to be for the OP, not #5. And I didn't finish my point before I posted; I do the snowboarding and volleyball and stuff because it's FUN, it helps me feel YOUNG, and when you're in shape and take care of yourself you have more testosterone. Supposedly. In my experience, that seems to be true.

.

[Enthusiast]

55. You are fortunate

to be capable of this kind of activity. Many of us are not.

[Xipe Totec]

6. Some of us don't need it, thankyouverymuch!

Even at 54.

[izquierdista]

10. Need is a relative term

We're talking about recreational use here....to knock off about 30 years.

[Xipe Totec]

11. To be honest, the problem of the young is PME

that goes away with age and experience...

:evilgrin:

[laughingliberal]

19. A fishing buddy of Mr. LaughingLiberal once told me he takes 1/2 a Viagra a day...

just to keep from peeing on his shoe.

[sabrina 1]

30. I wonder if he ever watched the Viagra ads.

The first time I saw one I thought it was from comedy central. The voice over lists so many ways you can do harm to yourself up to and including death, if you take this pill, while the camera is focused on idyllic scene with a couple walking on the beach or whatever, that I really did think it was meant to be funny. I was :rofl: Maybe SNL hasn't done a skit on it because how do you parody something that is already so funny you can't improve on it.

[laughingliberal]

48. There really isn't much way to improve on the inherent humor of a Viagra ad. Lol. nt

[Dr.Phool]

37. My cousin tried Viagra, but his wife had a headache.

Poor guy wound up with a separated shoulder.

[seabeyond]

3. worry about trying to be 25, 35 or even 45 again, how can I possibly enjoy being 52?

i say the same. i am so tired of being told i look younger.... how ever many years. that is not my goal, intent, desire in life. now, i say i want a healthy (whatever yr i am). that is it.

i have seen this more and more, society feeding on the fear of age. they are harsh with women, but of late are going after the man. i dont know what cuased you to post this, but i couldnt agree with you more. and i have to say, i think the you's and me's will be happier in our later years, embracing our now.

[badgerpup]

69. I get told I don't look me age...

...which is 52. I know I don't look or 'present' as most people my age do...
I put it down to not having kids and being a bit 'off'.

Plus I never smoked and accepted in my early 20's that I would never have an acceptable tan and quit trying...
figure if Queen Elizabeth the First made 'milk-white skin' fashionable, it's good enough for me.:P

Just wish I felt as young as I supposedly look...back then, stuff didn't hurt the way it does now.:shrug:

[MrScorpio]

4. Damn Skippy! N/T

[DCBob]

7. I'm 54. I dont think about my age much and I dont try to act my age or try to act younger either...

I just do what I want and what I am able and enjoy life. You can croak at any moment.. dont fret it. :)

[girl gone mad]

8. Thanks for this.

And from the female perspective, I have no desire to become a GILF. The idea horrifies me.

If I'm still obsessed with how I look in a bikini and what young men think of my body when I'm in my 60s, please just shoot me.

[Mojorabbit]

14. + 100 nt

[seabeyond]

22. please just shoot me.... bah hahahaha

i always.... i mean every single one.... always enjoy your posts.

yup

[BeyondGeography]

9. When you see the game in slow motion, that's when you get really good at it

:thumbsup:

[rzemanfl]

12. Surprise Dupe. n/t

[rzemanfl]

13. Do something about the peeing thing or getting there will soon

become an ordeal. Trust me, I speak from experience. Get the pills that shrink your prostate-not Flowmax. The side effects aren't that bad-unless you are trying to impregnate a harem-if you are, I am too jealous to care how much time you spend in the john.

[WCGreen]

15. I talked to the doc and he said well talk about it next time...

[rzemanfl]

29. Is your doc a urologist? If not, get one. n/t

[WCGreen]

42. I have to see one to qualify for a transplant....

[Scuba]

16. I love getting old....

...it's one of my goals to be very, very old some day.

[razorman]

17. When I was in my twenties, life had not yet become a pain-filled wait for death.

[femrap]

18. I've been told

that women over 50 become invisible. I thought I might go rob a bank or drive off in a Brink's truck in that case.

[WCGreen]

20. I can say this from experience...

To quote the band Alabama...

Older women, are beautiful lovers...

[muffin1]

76. Man, wrong day for me to read those words.

I just got finished telling someone how I feel invisible. I used to get lots of 'double takes' from men. Now, I'm pretty sure I'm not even getting 'single takes'. I'm 49.
:-(

Don't take these words as gospel, mind you. I'm just having a particularly bad day.:hi:

[femrap]

82. I wasn't even

really of thinking about the 'eye candy' aspect of aging....more along the lines of not getting waited on when in a store or no one listening when I am talking. It seems I have to raise my voice more often to get my point across or to get the service I need.

And when seated by the kitchen or restroom at a restaurant, I tell them, 'No way.'

Don't even get me started about the dude at the car dealership.

But maybe it's just the 'times.'

Hope your day improves!

[SmileyRose]

90. Snort

I've got a couple years to fit that in. My mother says at 70 you get to flirt with and butt grab gorgeous young men and everyone smiles, even the young man.

[Cartoonist]

21. Who's Old?

I just turned 56. I look it in many respects; gray at the temples, circles under the eyes, but I still feel young. I still think young. I have no fear of getting old, I just feel that's way in the future. I attribute it to smoking pot all my life but no alcohol. Also, no wife, no kids. That'll send you to an early grave.

[seabeyond]

23. That'll send you to an early grave.... statistically, you are wrong

but

i am all for it working for you

[Skittles]

24. I'm 53 - recently I swam 3.25 miles across a lake - at midnight

no gray hair yet either :D

[rzemanfl]

32. I knew a guy who tried that when he was 16, I'm about to turn

63 so he's been dead around 46 or 47 years. I don't have gray hair, I think it is because I never worry about drowning....

P.S. in my experience people operating boats at midnight tend to be drunk.

[Skittles]

34. I know how to dodge boats

and it is FUN to sneak up on drunks in boats in the middle of the night - boy do I have some stories :rofl:

[rzemanfl]

35. Be sure to tell me the one about swimming up on someone who

is laying a trotline....

[Skittles]

38. they usually do that during the day

and I steer away from floats

[Dr.Phool]

40. Come over here and try that in Lake Tarpon.

Can you dodge gators?

:crazy: :crazy:

[Skittles]

41. I'm not a COMPLETE phucking idiot Dr. Phool

:D

[Blue_In_AK]

25. Wonderful advice.

I'm 63 and my knee hurts, but I'm happy.

ed. Incidentally, my husband and I walk 25 miles a week, sore knee and all. I'm not going to let a few years slow me down.

[elocs]

26. At age 57 I can wake up in the morning and say, "You know, nothing hurts at all".

"Nothing". It's great to be able to appreciate feeling well and in no pain when you feel well and have no pain.

Of course, this didn't happen by accident. I have managed to take good care of myself over the years. I have no health hurting bad habits. I am probably 40 pounds heavier than I was 40 years ago, but my waist size is only 2 inches larger so most of that weight did not go to my stomach. I know I am stronger than I was in my 20s, although I cannot run as fast. My rule now is that I only run if something chases me and I've had no problems with that for many years.

Life is so much about choices and consequences and when you get older regrets, and how to live with them. It's about forgiving yourself for being imperfect, for making mistakes, for sometimes doing stupid things. I still work on that, but time will eventually take care of everything. Getting older is much better than the alternative because the cemeteries are full of people no longer getting older.

As a single guy I have a lot of personal freedom and at 57 I can really enjoy and appreciate that. Retiring from the male/female ratrace has been very liberating. I can enjoy people in small doses, but I am very comfortable with my own company and enjoy the solitude. Because of this I can live on next to nothing without anybody telling me I should go out and trade more pieces of my life to make money. Fortunately I have never confused what I do to make money with who I am as a person.

I have grown a full beard since last August because I can and nobody can tell me that I should not and it's a damn good beard. I cannot make up my mind if I should go Amish or Jewish with it. Amish, I have to shave off the moustache. Jewish, I will have to grow the earlocks.

Is there such a thing as an Amish Jew, or a Jewish Am? :shrug:

[spooky3]

66. I'm glad for you but remember that not all are as lucky as you.

One can take excellent care of oneself for many years (and gain less than 40 lbs.) but inherit genes for arthritis, cancer, or other painful conditions, or be injured permanently in an industrial or car accident, etc.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

27. I'm 66, and I'm loving it...mostly!

I hear you about the journey...

Life is a journey, and anyone who hasn't figured that out is losing out, IMHO...

I don't like my aches and pains and I do what I can to keep them to a minimum. But I love where my mind and heart are.

I find more creativity inside me than I ever have, and that's because I've lived this many years and enjoyed the hell out of them.

[HereSince1628]

28. Don;t worry, your first by-pass surgery we renew your zest for life!

Just saying...

At 57, six months after a triple I can run 10K in under 50 minutes. I haven't been able to do that since my 20's.

[xchrom]

31. i use testosterone replacement therapy.

the best thing about it is i feel less anxious and worried.

but i'm also tested for hormone levels, etc.

i also use viagra on occasion -- or levitra -- i've reached that age for me -- your mileage may vary.

i know these things are hot topics here -- but i've finally decided to come out.

not using any of the above is a virtue -- except that others make it up.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

43. Testosterone helps a lot of people.

Women need testosterone too, in small amounts.

However, steroids have been demonized in the media due to use of massive quantities by professional jocks and bodybuilders.

Also, Human Growth Hormone and its precursors (secretagogues) are used by some.

[Lint Head]

36. The joy is in the journey.

[Dr.Phool]

39. I'm 58. My mind thinks I'm still 25.

My body says :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: I don't think so. You'll pay for this in the morning. Maybe tonight.

[mzmolly]

44. K

and R. :toast: to you for aging with grace.

[Cresent City Kid]

45. I'm right at 45

I don't feel older physically, but I am kind of an old geezer in terms of new technology and music. Keep your twitter off my lawn!

Hey look, post 45.

[Tutankhamun]

46. Sustanon 250, enanthate or cypionate. Take your pick.

[Juche]

50. Why cypionate?

I thought the half life from that was really short and the general recommendation was enanthate due to the half life for replacement.

Either way, there are so many things that go wrong with your bodies repair mechanism when you age that sex hormones are just one aspect. You've got growth hormones, DHEA, coenzyme Q10 and likely dozens of other things that decline with age. I am currently trying to take CoQ10 and ALCAR to help ward off some aging damage to my body. I do notice I have much more energy than people my age, but am not sure how much is due to those things.

Either way, I hope they keep figuring out how to keep people relatively healthy into their 70s.

[Tutankhamun]

54. Most people who use cypionate do it once a week.

Test propionate, OTOH does have a ridiculously short half-life. Cypionate half life is at least eight days. Yes, enanthate would be a little longer, as would undecanoate. It's a matter, for most Americans, of availability (and cost).

I threw AAS into the discussion as a response to all of the talk of Cialis and as a response to the OP which quotes from a commercial for plain, unaltered testosterone. People need to realize there are far better alternatives than plain test and/or Cialis. AAS will do things for you that plain test or Cialis just can't.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

72. Yep, do your research.

Lots of information out there.

HGH, GHRH-6, GHRH-2, CJC-1295(GRF-129) <-gh secretagogues.

[amborin]

47. thanks for posting! wonderful advice!

[Juche]

49. I like getting older

I'm not very old and am barely in my 30s, but even compared to my early and mid 20s I am much calmer and comfortable in my own skin. I'm willing to take risks I wasn't willing to take 5 years ago because I do not fear the consequences as much (other risks I am more wary of, but I think that is just because I am wise enough to be aware of the consequences, which I wasn't before). So in some ways I am more afraid of some things but less of others. But that is good, because I'm more aware of the consequences of certain things now. And some are dangerous and some are not. Plus as a huge bonus I have no desire to chase college women now, which is great. I am free of that bullshit. All in all, aging is great.

I just finished reading 'the heroin diaries', which is a biography of Nikki Sixx from Motley Crue. The guy was a total wreck in his 20s, but now he is 51 and according to his friends he is a really mellow, easy to be around guy. That is how aging should work. You become wiser, more comfortable with yourself, more willing to follow your own lead, more confident in your ability to deal with problems, etc.

I don't look forward to losing my energy, physical repair mechanisms, health, etc. though. I do try to delay those aspects of aging.

[old mark]

51. I few months ago, I started going to a local gym 3 or 4 days a week.

I play my guitars a lot, wrote a song after several attempts...maybe a few more soon. Really enjoy taking things easier and don't have to worry about my bosses because I am retired. Love spending time with my wife and my dog, doing the things that I like to do when I feel like doing them.

I will be 63 in August and if I could I would stay as I am right now for 30 more years....even more...


mark

[Triana]

52. Millions of women just over 25 already know what you just wrote

ie:

"I can go someplace now and look forward to the getting there as well as the pleasure of being there. I enjoy the little things life has to offer more and more as I grow older. My suggestion for a long enjoyable life. Enjoy it as you go along."

Generally speaking, men have always been behind women when it comes to intellectual and emotional maturity. I used to wonder as a teenager when guys would ever grow up.

At 50, I have my answer: they don't. Ever. Marrying one is like marrying an overgrown kid.

As far as remaining single, statistically speaking: for men, remaining single will result in a shorter life ; for women, remaining single results in a longer life. Look it up.

Odd that, eh? Well, not really. It's what happens when you marry an overgrown kid who never grows up.

;)

*snicker* :hi:

[raccoon]

56. I'm approaching 60, and much happier than I was as a child and young adult.

Calmer, less agitated and restless, happier with what I've got and how things are instead of always wishing for something else.

[NNN0LHI]

64. I was watching my 6 year old grandson playing at the park last week with other kids

I made note that I sure wished I was back at that age again. Going down the slide. Playing on the monkey bars. Going up and down on the see-saw.

Not a worry in the world. Didn't get no better than that.

Don

[raccoon]

68. Well, the worry I had at that age was a father who was an active alcoholic, who was

not working for more than a year before he died of alcoholism.

No way in hell I'd be that age again--unless some things could be different.

[Javaman]

58. I am Javaman and I am 46 (soon to be 47).

I'm middle aged and I love it. Things are a bit slower to rebound, but all things still work. LOL

As much as I fondly think about my youth, I'm so glad for the memories, but would never ever want to relive it.

To me, if you hate life, you want to relive the "glory days", if you love life, you live IN the glory days.

Cheers!

[Iggo]

59. 'No fucking shit.'

Guess what? My hair's turning white, too. I actually kinda like it.

[pinboy3niner]

60. Age is a state of mind

But they better hurry up and research that immortal jellyfish while I'm still around! LOL

[FailureToCommunicate]

62. "Immortal Jellyfish" Sounds like a rock band. Good one pinboy.

[FailureToCommunicate]

61. My two cents? Exercise. Walking, running, or machines, or best: marching for a cause

while yelling and holding up a sign (good for the deltoid muscles). And even if exercise doesn't make you FEEL younger (especially at first!) is IS helping in all kinds of ways you'll be glad about 'later'

Oh, and kids. Not that that is an easy choice like exercise, but you can always adopt some. They need you. You need them. I guarantee you will feel young every day with kids. (Yes, even after your second trip of the day to the corner store to buy more milk and peanut butter!) They teach us so much. And learning is one of the best feelings in this life!

My real age? Over fifty. My inner child? Twenty five, tops.


When I get older I will be stronger
They'll call me freedom, just like a waving flag
Singing forever young
Singing songs underneath the sun
Let's rejoice in the beautiful game
And together at the end of the day
We all say...Ooooooh, Woooooh
So wave your flag
Now wave your flag

(by K'Naan)

[pinboy3niner]

63. For all the good women of DU: WARNING

WARNING


When I am an old woman I shall wear purple
With a red hat which doesn't go and doesn't suit me.
And I shall spend my pension on brandy and summer gloves
And satin sandals, and say we've no money for butter.
I shall sit down on the pavement when I'm tired
And gobble up samples in shops and press alarm bells
And run my stick along the public railings
And make up for the sobriety of my youth.
I shall go out in my slippers in the rain
And pick the flowers in other people's gardens . . .


--Jenny Joseph, 1961

[WCGreen]

70. I love this....

[pinboy3niner]

80. My late mother loved it, too

I guess that's why it has an EXTRA special place in my heart...

[Obamanaut]

65. I am 67 and retired. Much like Old Mark said in an earlier post, I go

to a gym 4 - 5 days a week, getting there on a motorcycle. Younger people in the gym offer me advice on how to perform various exercises with free weights and machines. They talk to me like I'm a real person and not a relic.

Since retirement, and slowing down, I don't have problems with acid reflux, blood pressure is well within normal range without meds, sleep is good. Wife and dogs still seem to like me. In about 1/2 hour I'm going on a bicycle ride.

Mine is a good life.

[roody]

67. 56 here and loving it. And

I walked the dog last night.

[emulatorloo]

71. I've got testicular failure, it isn't funny. Brain fog, extreme fatigue, irritablility

unable to learn anything new, no interest in life, you name it. All I wanted to do was crawl in a hole and stop living.

So it is an actual problem, not just a madison avenue hype.

Thank God my doc figured it out and got me treated.

[catzies]

81. That happened to my brother after his botched vasectomy. Glad you got treatment. n/t

[emulatorloo]

87. Honestly it isn't much of an exaggeration to say it saved my life. Hope your brother is doing well!

Please let me know how your brother if you get a chance.

[catzies]

88. Thanks for asking. He's been on test. replacement patches for years now

But he does believe that the time between the incident and the almost-a-year-later diagnosis negatively impacted his health permanently; he feels it aged him (on a cellular level, IYKWIM).

:hi: good health to you!

[emulatorloo]

92. I was undiagnosed for a long time as well.

It certainly takes its toll. Send my regards and best wishes to him.

:toast:

[dipsydoodle]

73. I'm 66

and still act like a rabbit.

If you wanna stay young then go to Rockabilly and R & R stuff and dance, dance dance........

[mimitabby]

74. I'm 58 one word.. exercise... like your life depends on it

I'll never get rid of the aches and pains, I know that.
the wrinkles keep getting deeper and my hair no longer has a natural color.
But I started exercising about 8 years ago, bicycling, walking, a little time at the gym (and I do mean a little
because i hate to go) and I find myself healthier and stronger now than i was when i was 30.

if you're going to get old, you might as well be as healthy as possible while you're doing it.
There are good things about being older. WISER.
You can pick up so much knowledge just by watching other people while they make mistakes or good decisions.

[WCGreen]

75. Sage advice to spice up the discussion.

[Katya Mullethov]

77. The best thing abouot getting older

Is that every year , more and more chicks look really hot .

[KansDem]

78. I'm 57 and I've noticed younger women smile and speak to me more and more...

:)

...but they look and sound like they're talking to their grandfather.
:(

[nomorenomore08]

79. The juxtaposition of posts 77 and 78 is kinda funny. Just saying...

nt

[Manifestor_of_Light]

83. Read stuff by Dr. Karlis Ullis, M.D.

He's a leader in testosterone and GH replacement therapy.

Contrarian Endocrinology part I: Testosterone for Women
http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/ullis/contrarian-endocrinology-01.htm

Conclusion:
I also believe that testosterone and other androgens may have a critical role treating some types of female obesity - the estrogen dominant type. Precious little research has been done in this controversial area, but it is obvious that a major reason why women have more difficulty losing fat than men is due to their lower levels of testosterone. Since testosterone can not only help mobilize fat but also build muscle, women can attain higher resting metabolic rates. This is in stark comparison to most diet drugs that result in loss of muscle and usually the return of lost body fat once drug use is ceased. While androgens will obviously have some side effects in women, hence the controversy, however these side effects are likely less than the often life threatening effects of Phen-Fen and other diet drugs. Testosterone as a treatment for obesity is probably much safer and actually more effective in the long term than liposuction. I really hope more research is done in this area, as I believe androgens are crucial in the war against the rapidly evolving plague of obesity in this country.

I hope the medical establishment can soon move away from the concept of the ancient and antiquated model of male hormones are for men and female hormones only for women into a universal concept of optimum hormonal balance of all the sex hormones in both sexes. I really hope to see more studies on testosterone replacement therapy as testosterone becomes more accepted. As controversial as this is, the medical establishment is just as rigid in its approach to male hormone replacement therapy. I hope to help change this with my next article, which will deal with the controversial area of progesterone and estrogen replacement therapy for men.

Contrarian Endocrinology Part II: Estrogen and Progesterone for Men
http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/ullis/contrarian-endocrinology-02.htm

Conclusion: The Future of "Contrarian Endocrinology"

I believe that the effects of "female" hormones on men have been greatly over demonized and understudied and there are many benefits to be derived both for body compositioning and for anti-aging purposes. Just as testosterone use effects women more noticeably than men, other hormones found in smaller amounts in men such as estrogen and progesterone can effect men more profoundly than women. Too much estrogen and progesterone will of course lead to loss of muscle mass, gains in fat, and loss of libido. But proper levels and more importantly the ratios of these hormones could actually be beneficial for libido and body composition.

While much more research needs to be done, I believe the best protocol for hormone replacement therapy for men will be quite similar to the one I use for women. As you may recall from Part I of this series, my usual protocol for female hormone replacement therapy is to restore a balanced ratio of testosterone/estrogen/progesterone through use of natural testosterone and progesterone gels and small doses of natural estrogens if necessary. I believe a good protocol for men may soon be a similar protocol of maintaining a natural balance of testosterone/estrogen/progesterone. Once a proper baseline level of sex hormones is achieved through use of natural gels, both men and women may desire an additional spike in energy or libido from time to time. For this purpose, occasional use of the short acting forms of the prohormones such as androstenedione or 4-androstenediol can be extremely effective in causing temporary boosts of testosterone and estrogen without disrupting your hormonal balance.

As for body compositioning and athletics, young adult men (not teenagers) can probably benefit most from spiking estrogen levels occasionally since they may have the lowest estrogen levels to begin with. Young adult men may also wish to increase muscle mass through nortestosterone or nortestosterone prohormones, since these should have less androgenic side effects. Older men should probably avoid nortestosterone and should instead use natural testosterone with a small amount of natural progesterone pulsing to minimize androgenic side effects.

[rotund1]

84. I may not be as good as I once was, but

I'm as good once as I ever was.


:evilgrin:

[mitchum]

86. It blows my mind that I am now considered to be wise, authoritative, and experienced

[Buns_of_Fire]

89. Me, too. But only to people who don't know me.

Those who know me know that I'm as much a PITA as I ever was.

And with that, I give you these words of wisdom, written by a classmate waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in fourth grade (long-term memory = phenominal, short-term memory = ehhhhh):

Winter is coming
My nose is running
I'm getting colder
As I grow older

At nine years old, the guy had it pegged.

[In_The_Wind]

91. 62 isn't a picnic either.

just sayin'

I dread seeing my doctor next week because I'm sure he is going to add at least one more pill to my daily dose. The cost of getting older is going up while the coins in my pocket are diminishing.

[mmonk]

93. So it's not just me. Good to know.