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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 03:35 PM
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I find it scary that Rick Scott is leading the gubernatorial race in Florida.
He is spending a fortune on ads that are in our faces whenever we turn on TV. They appear to be working.


Picture from Scott's campaign site.

One poll shows him leading both Republican Bill McCollum and Democrat Alex Sink.

There are some ads being run by groups that point out his connection to Columbia HCA's fraud against Medicare, but he has more money.

Newcomer Rick Scott leads Bill McCollum and Alex Sink in Florida’s race for Governor. According to a June 9, 2010 Quinnipiac poll, Rick Scott leads Bill McCollum with a 44% to 31% lead. Rick Scott is a millionaire who has used his own money to fund a campaign media blitz, putting his name in front of Florida voters quickly and according to the polls results, effectively.

Bill McCollum countered Rick Scott’s media blitz with commercials attacking his career in the health care industry; particularly his involvement with the largest Medicare fraud case nationwide. Rick Scott immediately fired back with an ad admitting the claim then stating he has made changes and learned from his mistakes.

Twenty-four percent of those surveyed in the Quinnipiac poll have said they remain undecided.
Whether or not Rick Scott can maintain the lead until primaries, however, remains to be seen.


Seems like scandal and breaking the law doesn't matter much anymore if he is in the lead. Or maybe people have just forgotten the Columbia HCA fraud.

Health Beat blog looks back at the harm done to hospitals when Rick Scott was running HCA.

Who Is Richard Scott— and Why Is He Saying These Things about Health Care Reform?

I can still recall how Scott looked: a lean man with a receding hairline and a hungry look, he didn’t fit my image of a hospital executive. He had grown up in Kansas City, Missouri where his mother helped support five children by selling encyclopedias door-ro-door, doing other people’s laundry, cleaning telephone booths and clerking at J.C. Penney. Understandably, money was very important to Scott. He liked to pinch pennies. I remember he boasted to me about the old clunker of a car that he drove for years.. The frugality carried over the Columbia/HCA’s hospitals. “Gloves rip easily,” complained hospital workers in Florida. In California, some nurses protested “filthy conditions” and being “stretched to the limit as the hospital slashed the ratio of nurses to patients”

“I sometimes had to watch 72 patients heart monitors at a time,” one nurse reported. “I was told, either do it, or there’s the door.” In Indianapolis nurses complained to state authorities that babies in the neonatal unit were left unattended for as long as three hours.


More about Columbia/HCA's hospitals.

How to Build An Empire

Scott’s goal: to lay claim to 25 percent of the nation’s hospitals. He felt the country had too many hospitals, and was hoping for a shakeout that would cut the number in half, leaving Columbia with a larger slice of what was left. To be sure, excess capacity was a problem in some parts of the country, but Scott’s solution was chillingly Darwinian. In his vision of the future, the hospitals most likely to succumb to competition would be “teaching hospitals and children’s hospitals”—institutions where operating costs are highest. His business plan left no room for unprofitable hospitals that nonetheless serve vital needs. Meanwhile, within HCA Scott was known as a bully. “I never witnessed such an extent of demeaning, debasing and devaluing behavior as I personally experienced at Columbia,” one administrative director told the New York Times

But if you brought in the money, you were rewarded handsomely. Internal hospital records would later show that hospital executives were paid enormous bonuses, not for reducing infections or lowering mortality rates, but for meeting financial targets such as “growth in admissions and surgery cases.” In 1995 one-fourth of Columbia’s administrators won bonuses equaling 80 percent of their salaries—or more. When bonuses become that large, some critics charge, they no longer function simply as incentives. They invite fraud. Scott also did his best to avoid needy patients, questioning whether hospitals should throw their doors open to one and all. “Do we have an obligation to provide health care for everybody? Where do we draw the line? Is any fast-food restaurant obliged to feed everyone who shows up?

Meanwhile, Wall Street scrambled to finance Columbia/HCA’s growth. The stock spiraled, and Scott used the company’s ever-more valuable stock to acquire more hospitals. He quickly became a serial acquirer. Growth for the sake of growth. That was the mantra of the 1990s. Until the music stopped.


Crooks and Liars website has a video from the Rachel Maddow show in which she covered not only his recent involvement with the loud screaming town halls, but also covered more about Columbia/HCA.

Why is Rick Scott running for governor?

IMO a better question now would be why is he leading the race?

Scott's involvement in Conservatives for Patients' Rights is just his latest venture. The real reason Floridians would be insane to even consider electing this man? His leadership of the Columbia/HCA hospital chain.

Columbia/HCA didn't just scheme to defraud Medicare a little bit. They schemed to commit fraud on a mega-fraud basis. And it wasn't just insurance companies they tried to rip off. It was Medicare, Medicaid, and even TRICARE, the health plan that covers our veterans. It wasn't only overbilling, either. Here's a partial list:

* Intentional year-end record fraud alleging payments from the government less than actually received, leaving the government with the burden of overpaying them.
* Payment of kickbacks to providers to inflate claims billed to Medicare, Medicaid and TRICARE.
* Billing costs to the government which were not allowed.
* Inflating the cost of transferring patients from HCA facilities to other, non-HCA facilities.
* Inflating claims for indigent patients.
* Paying kickbacks for diabetes patients.
* Overbilling states for Medicaid patients.

The entire list and summary of the case is on the DOJ website.

Columbia/HCA settled the morass of fraud claims for $1.7 billion, the largest-ever settlement of a Medicare fraud investigation.


It's disturbing to me that this man is leading the gubernatorial race. This morning I watched an interview with Alex Sink on BayNews9. The interviews asked her in a very serious tone which man she would rather face....McCollum or Scott. She in an equally serious tone answered "either one."

They were treating him as a serious contender. Why is that? Why does the media treat those who are running with no credibility at all....as if they had plenty of it.

And even more important, why are the candidates so fearful to answer truthfully about his past?




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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 03:47 PM
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1. kickey -- back later --
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 03:54 PM
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2. It's almost as if the American people are being tested
to see what level of absurdity we can tolerate. As of yet there seems to be no upper limit.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 04:11 PM
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6. I think you may be right.....no upper limit to absurdity. Good point.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 03:58 PM
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3. Conservatives love rich authoritarian bullies - they confuse them with God. nt
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 04:05 PM
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4. I've seen that face before; has he had a gender change?
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 04:06 PM
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5. Honestly, I expected as much.
Lets face it, if you put something in front of idiots time and time again, really blast something into their heads, they recognize with it. Believe it. Reference it. Rick Scott is buying the GOP vote with advertising. It's the same reason that 1-800-ASK-GARY actually gets used by people. Not because it's the best thing for someone who has been hurt, but because it's the first thing to pop into the head of the easily malleable. Used so much, they had extra advertising money to buy the naming rights for the (formerly) Ford Amphitheater.

In addition, look at how Scott is running his ads. I watch the local Fox affiliate news channel for weather and sports, and I'll see his ads 10 times a day just during the news hours.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 04:55 PM
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7. He is advertising on the RW radio stations
Almost as often as Goldline.
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retread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 05:56 PM
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8. Very scary indeed! n/t
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 06:03 PM
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9. There is a good chance he would be governing a bankrupt
toxic waste dump. They are reporting oil five miles off Pass-a-Grille.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 06:57 PM
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10. Scott wants to bring AZ immigration law to Florida.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/06/12/1677100/scott-takes-fla-governors-campaign.html

"Scott, 57, of Naples, is the former CEO of the Columbia/HCA hospital chain. He is running as a non-politician in a year when many are angry at politicians. He's delivering a conservative message, which he took to a multi-stop tour in the Panhandle, the most conservative part of the state.

At stops here and in Bonifay, he received his loudest applause when he said Florida should adopt the same Arizona law that requires police to check the immigration status of people they stop if they suspect they're illegal immigrants.

"If people are here doing something illegal, they have to be asked if they're legal. And if they're not they should leave our country," Scott said, to which one audience member shouted, "Amen!"

Scott said if elected, he wants each state agency to explain its existence and said he will eliminate the services government shouldn't be providing.

"I'm a conservative outsider. I'm pro-jobs, I'm pro-growth, I'm pro-Second Amendment, I'm pro-family and I'm pro-life and everything I believe in I'm going to do as governor," Scott said."

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/06/12/1677100/scott-takes-fla-governors-campaign.html#ixzz0qmSk2Ah2

God help FL if he becomes governor.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 10:39 PM
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19. He's not an outsider, he's an inside corpoRAT con-man...
who's spending his own stolen fortune to buy lots of good PR.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 07:05 PM
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11. I love the ad where he tells people to ignore his
medicare fraud. That is priceless.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 07:48 PM
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12. It's laughable. He really has nerve.
And it plays over and over.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 06:12 AM
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23. I know
We have Florida stations here. It screams vote for me - I stole millions from medicare but that was ages ago and my hospitals are the best.

I think we're facing a total and complete inversion of reality.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 11:30 AM
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28. He's typical for Florida.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 02:55 PM
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35. "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"






:rofl: Is this fool a comedian or what? :rofl:


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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 09:07 PM
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13. It's Florida.
One of many (most?) states where evil finds its way to the top.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 09:58 PM
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14. His opponents need to draw parallels between his management style and BP's management style.
Cutting corners. Motivated by nothing else but maximum profit. Treating low level workers poorly.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 10:03 PM
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15. Bill McCollum R had some ads out like that....but nothing from Sink.
At least that I know about.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 10:03 PM
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16. not my vote n/t
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eternalflame Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 10:36 PM
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17. Thanks for the information
We need to spread the truth about this guy as much as possible.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 11:13 PM
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20. Yes we do. His money is overpowering the others.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 10:37 PM
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18. If he wins...
this state is double-fucked and I shall need to be committed.

What will probably happen is I won't vote in FL elections ever again. :(
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 12:09 AM
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21. You said it.. if this guy is elected... we are double-fucked...
He is one scary right-wing whacko that makes Sarah Palin look tame.

Just the fact tht "He Resonates" with the right-wing crazies and people listen to him... is enough to send me screaming down I-75.

Florida is sick. And Remember.. Morgan and Morgan... "For The People".

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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 10:43 AM
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26. That commercial gives me nightmares!
You're right, he makes SP look like a walk in the park. He's not just that he's a RW-crazy, it's that he's a goddamn crook.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 09:50 AM
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25. It is so weird to see it happening.
A man who was doing some repair work for us asked us who is Rick Scott, that his wife was thinking of voting for him. When I got through telling him, he was stunned. Never heard of HCA...and I think that is the problem. People just don't remember.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 12:41 AM
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22. for you non-Floridians - he is uber creepy in his commercials, with an odd movement pattern, but his
newest commercial seems like he hired a propaganda, er.. I mean to say, an advertising guru to give him that 'fun', 'family guy' personna - it's very disturbing, because his politics are way right wing - and he's surging!

Is there NO LEVEL to the hysterics that all races of voters will drop to in regards to chants of 'keep the illegals out!'? He really loves his commercial playing McCollum saying the Arizona law isn't needed here and how he'll bring it if elected - that gives the teabag supporters an orgasmic feeling for sure.

Because economic times are so tough, it causes the base element of society to focus on our differences, and makes people look for scape goats as to why they're so screwed in life, as if the face wasn't looking at them in their previous votes for elected office!
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 07:35 AM
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24. recommend
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 11:30 AM
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27. Alex Sink's trump card?
Maybe Sink is banking on the fact that they both have jaded pasts?

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 01:25 PM
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29. Maybe. But now she has Bud Chiles in the wings
as a no party affiliation. Not sure where this is heading.

She really needs to campaign more firmly and obviously. She has great ideas and would be great governor.

We could really end up in a mess here.
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pundaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 02:04 PM
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30. The only reason any Republican wins is because the Democrats are not sufficiently different to draw
a clear distinction. Of course with the current batch of elected Democrats the distinction is only who votes "no" and who doesn't, but not in the main thrust of the policies implemented.

Give us a liberal alternative, or merge with the Republicans and start telling the truth.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 02:10 PM
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31. I agree, and that rings so true for the Florida type..
of Democrats. I guess it has always been that way here, and I was late to notice.

We have good guys running but they need to stand up and make themselves heard loudly now.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 02:15 PM
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32. Scott has one particular spot on radio and TV that makes me laugh.



In it he has a McCollum sound byte that is badly spliced and edited and the intonation
in McCollum's voice makes me think it was taken way out of context. It's really awkward.

(Just for reference it ends with McCollum saying "that's not gonna happen here")


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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 02:22 PM
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33. That ad is awful. Only time I agree with McCollum.
Scott's ads are so bad, so pathetic, but I guess people are falling for them.

:think:
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 02:37 PM
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34. He reminds me of THIS guy....


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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:22 PM
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36. We're fracked.
:P
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 05:06 PM
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37. I agree...I knew we were fucked when that fat-necked carpetbagger JEB! won
over Buddy MacKay...one of the saddest days of my life.
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