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Atticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 12:46 AM Original message |
At 61, I feel so naive. Of COURSE, winning is all that counts! |
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CaliforniaPeggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
1. Perfectly and eloquently said, my dear Atticus... |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 02:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
37. No it's not. This is a perfect illustration of a Straw Man. NO ONE said "winning is all that matters |
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zeemike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 02:26 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. And that is the perfect get out of jail free card |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 02:32 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. No, I don't. You cannot use logical fallacies and claim they mean something. |
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zeemike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 06:10 PM Response to Reply #41 |
62. Are you saying that the opinion that winning is all that counts |
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Forrest Greene (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 03:29 PM Response to Reply #37 |
53. That Argument Is Made |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 04:40 PM Response to Reply #37 |
57. You're mistaking your environment. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 07:21 PM Response to Reply #37 |
68. And Bush never said, "Let's kill them dirty Eye-rackys for 9/11!" |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 12:49 AM Response to Original message |
2. I still am shocked that this was unrecced but I did try to rec it. |
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keopeli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 12:52 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Well, thank goodness mine counted, then. |
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keopeli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 12:51 AM Response to Original message |
3. Your post sings the song of my heart, atticus. We are of one mind. n/t |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 12:56 AM Response to Original message |
5. well said. nt |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 01:00 AM Response to Original message |
6. Perfectly stated |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
7. K&R |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 01:14 AM Response to Original message |
8. It's not all that counts, but losing rarely helps. |
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Atticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 01:26 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Thanks for your response. I understand and appreciate your views. |
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Rhiannon12866 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 04:10 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. +1000 |
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nannah (690 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 10:29 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. +1000 for a string of thoughtful responses |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 02:04 PM Response to Reply #19 |
38. -1000,000 for Atticus and + 5,000 for the other poster who made a game attempt to get through |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 02:53 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. - billions and billions for misusing and misapplying the strawman fallacy |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 03:09 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. It is a perfect application of the straw man fallacy, and I will explain |
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tiny elvis (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 06:56 PM Response to Reply #48 |
64. i want to play pop fallacies |
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Atticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 07:00 PM Response to Reply #48 |
65. I have read your several posts several times and have to admit that I still am not certain that you |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 03:16 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Same reason why you see Occam's Razor or Godwin's "Law" cited. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 03:20 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. See my response above. thanks n/t |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 04:54 PM Response to Reply #49 |
61. Don't Forget the Cherry on Top: |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 02:04 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. My Senators are among the very worst of a horrible lot but then |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #8 |
23. Neither does "wining" when it implies total compromise and subsumption. |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 12:18 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Another "I read the title but can't be troubled to read the actual message" post? |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 03:21 PM Response to Reply #24 |
52. Another, just because I disagree with your point it must meant I didn't understand it |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 01:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
32. AMEN!!! on the 60% for vs 100% against!!! That's what we'll get with the GOP! Pragmatism defines you |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #8 |
45. Uhm |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 01:32 AM Response to Original message |
10. K & R. |
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Atticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 01:41 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. "When you are up to your ass in alligators, it's difficult to remember that your objective was to |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 02:18 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Too true. |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 11:27 AM Response to Reply #10 |
21. Well said |
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Bryn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 02:27 AM Response to Original message |
14. Great Post! I completely understand |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 03:12 AM Response to Original message |
15. Well gee, when you put it like that... |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 06:21 AM Response to Original message |
17. You're bogged down in the past, friend |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 06:44 AM Response to Original message |
18. When even the platform is irrelevant - |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
20. K&R Well said. Well said. |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
22. Values, honesty, integrity all seem to be easily scuttled |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
25. Hear!! Hear!! Well said, Atticus. Rec. nt |
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pundaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
26. No need for shame if you didn't vote a second time for the liars. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
27. k and r |
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democrank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
28. Now just a darn minute..... |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
29. Excellent Atticus ..I share your shame! eom |
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N_E_1 for Tennis (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
30. K & R ++++ |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
31. I am almost 63 and I know how you feel....Lincoln may not be much of a Democrat |
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Dollface (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
33. Dear Prince Myshkin, no true heart need aologize. |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
34. What a beautiful, well-written post. A must-read. I share your shame and pain. n/t |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
35. Politics is Pro Wrestling |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
36. Once upon a time, the victors wrote history, no more... |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
39. It eats away at the core of me... this country is so far off the correct path. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
42. How can you get that old and . |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
43. K&R |
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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
44. It started with me with the "secret" meeting Pres. Obama had with Hillary & then Rahm came along.... |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
47. recommend |
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Naked_Ape (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
50. It hurts, because it rings true. nt |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
54. at the risk of having this post relegated to the dustbin of unpopular threads . . . |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 04:44 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. I would probably say something about being in complete accord |
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Duval (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
55. I am dismayed & a tad frightened. n/t |
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bobburgster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
56. Hmmmm, well I thank you. |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
59. K&R. Thank you for saying that. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
60. That was awesome, Atticus. |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
63. Marking for later perusal. thanks. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
66. we're constantly being sold out *because* winning is all that matters. |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
67. I wrote this, this morning, with you in mind. |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
69. Nice post. |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
70. . |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
71. I'm with you |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
72. Agree -- interesting who is accused of betrayal and who is not . . .!!! |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
73. Well, here's the problem. Everyone has a different definition of |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
74. K & R # 257 |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
75. Integrity? Loyalty? Courage? Truthfulness? |
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