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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 10:01 AM
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Overheard during breakfast in a restaurant this morning....
Edited on Wed Jun-09-10 10:03 AM by mwb970
Elderly Woman: "That awful Helen Thomas was finally forced to retire."

Elderly Male Companion: "Why? What did she do?"

EW: "She made a terrible, disgusting comment."

EMC: "My goodness! What did she say?"

(awkward pause)

EW: "Well, I don't know exactly what it was, but it was a really, really terrible thing to say."

EMC: "Hmm. I wonder what it was."

And there you have it - the standard right-wing combination of a strong opinion, absolute certainty, and total ignorance of the subject at hand.

I think I may prefer to this case to my previous favorite example, which was when a good friend, after railing at length about the horribleness of teachers' unions, said "I don't know anything about industrial unions, but I'm sure they are exactly the same." Strong opinion? Check. Absolute certainty? Check. Total ignorance? Check. (She even acknowledged this last point herself, right in her own statement!)

:eyes:

Anyone else have an example of this?
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 10:04 AM
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1. Right wing newspeak is obviously very effective
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 10:11 AM
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2. A conservative friend of mine was ranting about Obama taking away our liberties
Finally, I asked him what rights Obama had taken away, other than the right to live under a white President.

He sounded exactly like Palin. He stammered, paused, and said, "I can guarantee you there have been several. I'll find out."

He's a fan of Glenn Beck on his facebook page. Need I say more?
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 10:17 AM
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4. He'll get back to you - just like Palin with Katie Couric!!
:rofl:
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 11:58 AM
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9. I use that rebuttal all the time on non-political forums
To date I've never recieved an answer, just personal attacks for asking the question.

All typical.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:06 PM
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12. My ignorant cousins are just like that.
Obama is "radical" donchano... when I ask what he's done that makes him a radical, I hear things prefaced by "he wants to" or "he is trying to" but there's no substance. I keep redirecting... no, I'm asking what he HAS done, not what you think he wants or is trying to do... what he HAS done... what's happened already...

crickets

Then they get angry and start lobbing insults... so I say, "Thanks! I win!"
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 10:17 AM
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3. Classic "teabagger-ese"!! Have you ever known a group of people
who were more passionate about being FLAT-OUT WRONG on the basis of absolute ignorance?
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 11:20 AM
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5. Perfect example, covers most I've ever had to listen to. Thanks! KnR n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 11:21 AM
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6. Did you barf in one ot their plates?
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 11:30 AM
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7. Here's my favorite, compliments of a sister-in-law:
SIL: "I won't vote for John Kerry because he's wishy-washy."

Me: Really? And how is he wishy-washy?

SIL: "He keeps changing his mind on everything."

Me: What did he change his mind on that bothers you most?

SIL: "Uhhhh..."

Me: Can you tell me anything John Kerry has changed his mind on?

SIL: "Not on such short notice, but I know he has."


They are all Sarah Palins. This is why she is so popular. She speaks stutters for them.



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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:55 PM
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21. Yup, that's the same thing.
They "know" things, but can't give any examples of them. This suggests that they are picking up the opinions of others (principally Glenn Beck and his ilk) without bothering to check whether they are based on anything factual. They don't seem to care just what these opinions are based on!
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 11:48 AM
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8. I heard something similar but
the republican said the opposite... "who would have ever thought I would agree with Helen Thomas on anything. yet, it ends her career."
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:03 PM
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10. The ignorant are cocksure...
... the intelligent are full of doubt.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 08:56 AM
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19. From a poem, right?
So true. It's a sign of intelligence to question what you know.
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:05 PM
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11. Combine with that elderly and so low information they can't even look up what was said.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:07 PM
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13. Exactly why I always ask a person spewing RW memes to please explain what exactly they mean and why
I've found it saves me much time and headaches, and it makes them stop and think about what they're actually spewing. It also usually keeps me from ever having to deal with that person again.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:08 PM
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14. Yep, it's one thing to have a strong opinion about something...
But OTOH, people who have no idea what they're talking about are usually idiots.
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KonaKane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:11 PM
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15. In Bagger-world, outrage does not require thought and reflection.
It just requires reacting. Like a worm to sunlight.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:40 PM
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16. "a strong opinion, absolute certainty, and total ignorance of the subject at hand."
That sums up most conservative thinking quite nicely. k&r

:dem:

-Laelth
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 12:58 AM
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17. Did they talk about George W. Bush finally admitting to torture?
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 08:40 AM
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18. Many!
Heard a jack-ass say, just the other day, 'I was watching Hannity last night and some guy was blaming Cheney for the oil spill. He wasn't even around when it happened.' He then laughed because he thought his ignorance made him seem smart.

I think that counts, right?

1) Strong opinion.
2) Absolute certainty.
3) Total ignorance.

Yep, it counts.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 09:45 AM
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20. It has always seemed to me that there's an inverse correlation between the amount one knows about a
subject and the strength of one's opinions on it.
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