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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 04:23 PM
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"We need every skimmer in the world out there." Prof Overturn on Tweety.
Says there is a need for better technology but we're not even using the technology we know about. Questioning, as I have been, why we are not doing more towards cleaning this up.
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ShamelessHussy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 04:27 PM
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1. who's gonna pay for it?
Edited on Tue Jun-08-10 04:29 PM by ShamelessHussy
just kidding, I absolutely agree, but what we've seen for the past decade tells me all i need to know about where our money priorities are.

WAR.

k&r
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 04:27 PM
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2. "why we are not doing more towards cleaning this up. "
Edited on Tue Jun-08-10 04:32 PM by Oregone
To say more is not being done is to imply the federal government could do more. But Im being told here they are doing everything reasonable and more is simply unreasonable. Obama is infallible, Ive been told, so everything he does is the best for the best of all possible worlds




Funniness:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x330477#330585
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 04:49 PM
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7. Yes, and despite the $$$$$ Trillions we've flushed down the DOD toilet..
we are told that our Navy is now less advanced than British Petroleum corporation.

We don't have the submersibles, submarines or undersea robot technology to assist in any way.

We just have to sit around and hope that BP can save us.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 04:28 PM
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3. No shit n/t
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 04:32 PM
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4. Assuming a boat is capable crossing the ocean from
say the North Sea how long would it take to get it there? Say they have skimmers in the North Sea are they just sitting there or are they busy skimming oil there?
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 04:40 PM
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5. I know the Dutch offered us all of theirs. I believe, after much handwringing, we did accept
It was reported we had accepted and they were on their way some 3 weeks after their offer was 1st reported. I also know Nick Pozzi has said we need a lot of super tankers out there. His take on why we don't have enough of them out there is that BP is trying to avoid the expense.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 05:04 PM
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8. One of the articles (see links below) says that although
the oil from the Dutch system can be recovered, it's not profitable.

In the end, the article suggests that the Dutch (who were not getting anywhere with the BPUSCG apparatus)decided to pursue their ongoing willingness to help with these-- through the State Department.

The USCG then put in a request for them on *May 18*

We are now a month closer to hurricane and storm season conditions, in which they are far less usable. If we get them, use them, and they help at all, it would seem a whole lot of parties to this decision making owe a whole lot of answers for all this time lost in this ongoing devastation.

And there were the objections from the EPA.

“ ‘One size fits all’ doesn’t work for all oil spills. This is a monster,” Mr. Johnson says. “If you could suck up 80 percent of the oil and discharge 5 percent, you are still catching 75 percent, which is infinitely more than they are currently doing.”


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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 05:17 PM
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9. Thanks. I am certain BP wishes to avoid anything effective if it's expensive.
And the EPA's position was just baffling.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 04:42 PM
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6. Dutch Sweeping arms were said to be en route many days ago (air freight)
Edited on Tue Jun-08-10 04:44 PM by chill_wind

Dutch Press Release May 28

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8474818

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4415455#4415820

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2010/0601/BP-oil-spill-Will-the-sweeping-arm-system-from-the-Dutch-help


By Mark Guarino, Staff writer / June 1, 2010

On Sunday, the Dutch sent six such systems by airfreight to Houston. They’re also sending a six-member team that can reassemble the parts, load them onto tankers, and train a workforce from T&T Marine – a Galveston, Texas, contractor that BP hired to lead the emergency response effort. The operation should be ready for the BP oil spill in 10 days, says Sjon Huisman, an adviser with the Netherlands’s Ministry of Transport, Public Works and Water Management.



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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 05:21 PM
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10. Didn't the scientist on Rachel last night say
they oil was dispersed into such tiny tiny droplets it would be impossible to skim it up. I think that's what she said. If they had not used the dispersant they slicks would have been bigger and easier to scoop up.
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