BP shut the Catastrocam down

[spotbird]

It must be horrific down there. Congress pressured them to make it public, this is what happens when compliance is voluntary.

It is maddening that the company with everything to hide has complete control over our oceans.

[flamingdem]

1. Are you certain? They might well have something to hide.

It was NOT looking good down there.

[spotbird]

2. It didn't take an engineer

to see that the gush had become much worse. Even the media was going to figure it out before long.

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[KansasVoter]

4. Ok, genius, what should he do???

[cwydro]

8. NUMBER ONE

STOP BP USING DISPERSANTS.

OK?

[KansasVoter]

11. And you know which ones are better?

[spotbird]

15. Demonstrate that any chemical is

safe for this. Does it help for anything but keeping the oil underwater?

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[gateley]

16. It's not that it's BP's dispersant that bothers me, if it weren't so toxic and poisonous

and it worked without harming the environment I'd say use it, whatever it takes.

So okay, I'll give you this one.

[MattBaggins]

14. Declare that the Government is going to be taking over the operation

even if it's only in an oversight capacity.

1. Tell BP the camera will be on at all times and control monitored by watchdog groups.
2. Make the BP CEO stand next to the Admiral every day and answer the questions during the briefings.
3. Make BP allow outside groups into response planning sessions and have them answer to press pools daily.

These are just a few things he could do if he told BP they will stop the leak but will do so as ordered not as they please.

[gateley]

24. It's my understanding that we are there in an oversight capacity, right down to

having medical personnel standing right next to BP personnel at the stations where people report in if they feel ill. Unfortunately, I'm not sure how discerning Thad is, and that woman Coast Guard official almost sounds like she's employed by BP. Maybe he'll be making some changes (Obama) in that area, or maybe my perceptions are off.

There's going to be a new BP person taking over this "project" - I'd agree that's a valid requirement to have the responsible BP person be required to be at the briefings with Admiral Allen.

[MattBaggins]

30. I'm not saying Obama needs to put on SCUBA gear

but the Government should be handling the containment and cleanup basically telling BP what to do and handing them a bill for it. No more of BP trying to keep the press at bay.

[gateley]

32. Yeah, I'd have to agree with that, too (I didn't think you meant she should

get down there with a shovel). Especially after seeing Rachel's show last night. And, today he went to some of the 'real' places, so maybe he'll end up doing just that. I hope so.

[spotbird]

44. Yikes!

I carefully asked a question and it was zapped! Heaven knows what would happen to real challgenge.

Yes, I know this will be disappeared as well. Madness is everywhere.

[gateley]

5. How? Please cite examples. Thanks.

[spotbird]

6. It's just sick

He is in way over his head. He takes bad advice. He has no commitment to the principles he pretended to hold during the election.

The best I can say is McCain/Palin would do no better, but that is truly damning with faint praise.

[cwydro]

10. Yes,

he seems to be clueless in this and I am frankly amazed at that.

[flamingdem]

13. I heard that Obama is attending ROV training school this weekend, so stop whining! nt

[cwydro]

19. woohoo!

so cool! hope he is wearing a t-shirt!

[spotbird]

23. All the President of the United States can do

is to physically rescue the well? Wow. That's quite a job for one man. In some company executives manage those with the expertise, but they demand results.

It's disturbing that anyone believes the president must possess all skills. Who knew people thought that the origination of all criticism stemmed from that belief.

[tabatha]

7. I heard James Cameron state that Obama was doing all he could.

[spotbird]

12. Does the President have authority

to structure the response to a disaster that could spread up the East Coast?

If he doesn't, then Obama is at the mercy of BP, as are we all.

[cherokeeprogressive]

40. Oh well then... If Cameron says it, it must be true right?

[tabatha]

47. Cameron has been involved.

[spanone]

9. pfffft

[zonkers]

18. That's how I feel. I want an independent team of international experts with full access. I want

total transparency. WTF is optional transparency at their discretion. This game has to change. I am steaming. Screw PP. It ain't there oceans.

[gateley]

26. I think we do have international experts, and how do we know they don't have

full access? Obama is hip to their tricks, as evidenced by his comments after his visit to the Gulf today.

[spotbird]

29. What did he say?

Did he say they are taking bids for a recovery team that knows their ass from a gush in the Gulf?

[gateley]

34. Wait -- is this supposed to be funny? A snark? I'm not getting it. nt

[gateley]

36. Here's some of what he said.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/06/04/obama.gulf.spill/index.html?hpt=C1

I'm eagerly awaiting your scathing criticism after you read it.

[spotbird]

41. Listen. It would bring me nothihg but joy

if this were handled well. How anyone would trust BP to protect us from their incompetence is beyond me.

[gateley]

43. But I think this indicates he doesn't trust them. I don't know if you saw the

entire piece but he was saying some pretty disparaging things about BP. If he did trust them initially, I think those days are over.

[spotbird]

46. Let's hope

since hope is all we have.

[gateley]

49. Yep. I agree. nt

[high density]

20. Maybe they're having technical difficulties?

I mean it wouldn't surprise me to see their incompetence spread to their IT department as well.

[flamingdem]

22. Meet the new boss, DUDLEY DORIGHT, who is taking over from Tony nt

[flamingdem]

21. As Ezra Klein says - the Admin can bleed BP dry - BOOSCH or MCCAIN sure woudn't nt

[spotbird]

25. Ezara is smart, but too young to know

how this story will end.

[doublethink]

27. oilvalcano cameras are up ...

http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/bp-live-oil-spill-cam.html

:shrug:

[spotbird]

28. That would be back up

they were down for a while. There have been several "outages" at critical moments.

[csziggy]

35. Most of the "outages I've seen are on the hour

I've been assuming shift changes, breaks, strategy meetings and so forth since the times have been so regular.

[spotbird]

39. Strategy meetings?

/Now why would the cameras need to be shut off for those

[csziggy]

42. The ROVs can drift if not clamped

I haven't paid enough attention to see if it was only the cameras on the "loose" ROVs that have shut off or if the ones that were clamped onto something also shut down.

Last night they took about a fifteen minute "break" before the Top Cap was actually put on - got it all rigged and ready to go, then every camera near the BOP shut off for that period. Then they came back on and got the thing on top of the spew plume really fast.

[spotbird]

45. There are a half dozen of them

and they happen to all fail at once, then a couple come back up with settings favorable to BP?


Are you in the market for a bridge?

[csziggy]

50. I have not seen all the cameras up at one time, since all the links

Have been posted. At most there have been maybe six, and usually a couple are not at the well head, but are off doing other things or on ship being serviced. Most of the time I have only seen two really doing anything worth watching at one time. Yesterday was an exception, but that is to be expected.

[spotbird]

31. They are up again but with new closer frames

making the increasing gush more different to compare. They've also cut out the perspective that showed the disbursement wand or whatever they called it. It's totally fucked up.

[flamingdem]

33. At least I guess we're safe in assuming nothing blew to bits nt

[spotbird]

37. Unless this is a rerun. ;) nt

[Mojeoux]

38. Does anyone know how to translate the data stream that was projected

above the cam shot of the spew?

[spotbird]

48. Nope. It's a good question. nt