Does anyone know a republican that isn't full of hate?

[jillan]

I am beginning to wonder if they exist. I'm sure they're out there, but I haven't come across any lately.

They are racist...not only is there SB 1070, I read this morning about a mural in a small town that has dark skinned people and the town is going nuts. And Proposition 8 in California. Textbooks being written that deletes many minority activists from history.

I was just threatened in an email by someone I never met on Facebook because I posted an anti Jan Brewer comment on her page. (yes, I reported them)

They write books comparing Liberals to Terrorists. And don't even get me started on what spews out of Glenn Beck and Limpo's mouth.

They think that people are unemployed are just lazy.

Who cares about the sea life that is dying, we need to drill baby drill. And environmentalists are to blame for the BP spill.

They just seem to have an attitude that they are above everyone else. I was raised to believe that we are all equal in God's eyes.

I could go on and on and on of examples of their hatred.

So tell me, does anyone know a republican that has love in their heart? I would really like to restore my faith in people, because I am becoming a bit cynical.:shrug:

Edit to add - I'm just venting, ranting.....I've been running into alot of ugly all week. One of my favorite people ever was a republican...my father in law....the nicest guy you could ever meet. feel free to vent with me...but please know I am just venting my frustrations.

[Skittles]

1. nope

[Dawson Leery]

2. They left the party?!?

:shrug:

[Ardent15]

3. I know several

And I know a few Democrats that have hate in their hearts.

But in my area, the differences between Republicans and Democrats aren't that big.

[SargeUNN]

4. I know of 2

I have to admit here in Arizona that there are 2 Republicans that I think do a good job and are decent people. Rick Romley and Helen Parcels. Both of course are being attacked by the extreme wing as you would expect.

[rufus dog]

80. Rick Romley is still around?

Be very careful is all I can tell you.

[Lebam in LA]

5. Nope

and they are getting worse by the day.

[City Lights]

6. Nope.

The ones I encounter - even those in my family - are the nastiest, most hateful people I've come across.

[Vinnie From Indy]

7. Ronald Reagan

He's full of worms.

The worms crawl in
the worms crawl out
the worms play pinochle
on your snout

[gateley]

18. I actually don't think he was full of hate. I get the sense he was basically a good

person but really naive and gullible and fell prey to the fears he was being fed. I still blame him (mostly) for the state of the country today, but I don't think he was a hateful person.

[Ardent15]

23. Who knows?

My opinion of Reagan is that he was basically a tool of the corporate elites, and had a horrible Ayn Rand-like belief system.

But I don't think he was a callous psychopath like Bush or Cheney.

[gateley]

43. Agree on tool of the corporate elites.

I think I'm basing my 'nice person' feeling on some stories I've heard (but damn if I can remember them now). He's in another universe than Bush/Cheney.

[gateley]

44. Agree on tool of the corporate elites.

I think I'm basing my 'nice person' feeling on some stories I've heard (but damn if I can remember them now). He's in another universe than Bush/Cheney.

[Lorien]

82. I think he was hateful. He had no compassion for the poor or people with AIDS

and what he did lead us where we are today.

[DevonRex]

8. Nope.

Not even the ones in my family, unfortunately.

[jillan]

15. Ditto - I saw a display of that hatred the other nite from one in my family as we were in a crowded

arena. Just the looks of attitude to those there that 'were less than he'. Sickening.

[DevonRex]

26. With my family it's "the gays" and "the blacks" and "the Democrats"

who are to blame for everything. Except for the things "the muslims" and "the illegal immigrants" are to blame for.

I can barely tolerate their company anymore.

[CBGLuthier]

9. Yes, to the FIRST question. Maybe to the second

You asked two different questions.

I am quite sure there are plenty of fiscal republicans who are not filled with hatred. People who are only republicans for economic values. I actually know a man like that. So yes. to the first question.

Now, do any republicans have love in their heart? Maybe.Probably even.I don;t pretend to know the contents of all men's hearts.

On the other hand though, I firmly believe most people are assholes who would fuck their own mother if they could get rich doing it. I am a wee bit cynical too.

[FLPanhandle]

10. Of course, many of them.

Some of my best friends and family.

Not all republicans are your typical Rush listener.

[madmax]

11. No, and yet they think

they're soooo compassionate.

[old mark]

12. Rec. Republicans who are not ardent haters ane now called moderate Democrats

What used to be the extreme right wing fringe is now Congress.

Beyond them are the real crazies.

mark

[Scuba]

38. Nailed it.

[Codeine]

13. I know many.

And I know some horribly racist Democrats for that matter (Arizona, I'm looking at you!)

Not every person exhibits the worst extremes of the groups to which they belong.

[Ardent15]

14. Exactly

I have some family members who are Republican, and though I think they are horribly misguided in their beliefs, I don't see them as hateful people.

[SargeUNN]

24. There are many from both sides that are questionable people

Blanche Lincoln, Ben Nelson, Gene Taylor to mention three and honestly I have to question how progressive anyone who supports this new Arizona law is. They are supporting a law that has not worked anywhere it has been tried and as guilty of stereotyping as the likes of Russell Pearce, Jan Brewer and Joe Arpaio. The fact that too many refuse to actually get down to the facts and learn the facts below the surface they turn up supporting stuff like this horrible law.

[Dorian Gray]

70. Agree

I'm not a fan of the Republican "spokespeople" on television and the internet, but the people I know in the real world who are Republicans are nice, kind and giving. Not racist or hateful at all. (My dad, a couple of friends, etc.)

[nichomachus]

16. Sure. Some are greedy. Some are bonechillingly stupid. And some are stuck in the past.

[Lance_Boyle]

17. Yeah, I know bunches of them.

I also know some Democrats who are right evil bastards.

This kind of polarizing "us v them" stuff is playground-mentality nonsense.

[FLPanhandle]

21. +1

That's what Rush does. Broadbrush demonization.

[tammywammy]

65. +2 n/t

[Donnachaidh]

19. actually yes.

broadbrushing was something we used to complain that the pukes did too much. :eyes:

[jillan]

22. I guess I'm just running into too much hatred lately.

[SargeUNN]

25. you are from here in Phoenix

certainly you know of Romley and Percells.

[jillan]

27. I know - I guess I'm just venting. Did you see that article on Prescott in the paper this morning?

That just added to what I have been feeling lately.

Here's a link to the story from USA today
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-06-04-altered-mural-arizona-race-debate_N.htm

[SargeUNN]

34. no sure didn't but will take a look oh did you see this?

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/crime/justice-of-the-peace-sex-crimes-6-3-2010
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/06/03/20100603isreal-correa-indicted-child-prostituion.html#ixzz0pq1tu6mI

This is the Democrat that Jeff Farias is running against. I will be talking more about it on Jeff's show today since I will be sitting in for him for at least part of the show and he can't talk about it, but I can.

[jillan]

36. Wow! I hadn't seen that. Go JEFF!!!

[CBR]

20. My Mom... nt

[jillan]

28. Awww - that's great :)

[Spike89]

29. Yeah, of course. But none that aren't afraid

We've had well more than a decade of pretty intense fear-mongering from mostly the right. There are consequences. Nearly half of the country is not filled with hate, despite the bile spewing from the vocal asses. They are however almost all scared witless. They're scared of damned near everything and there aren't enough guns, bad laws, and gated communities to make them feel safe.

[pipi_k]

30. Like another person upthread, I know several

Republicans who aren't hateful, and I know several Democrats who are.

[jillan]

32. You're right - I'm just venting - being seeing alot of ugly lately coming from that side.

[pipi_k]

63. Nothing wrong with venting... n/t

[pecwae]

31. Yep, sure do on both counts.

Assholes are not specific to the Republican Party although they may be over represented.

[el_bryanto]

33. Yep n/t

[montanto]

35. Yes.

I have a friend (who I am proud and happy to call my friend) who is a republican. He hasn't voted for a republican in quite a while. We taught together for many years in inner city L.A. No race issues, gay friendly, school supporter, anti-war, pot-smoker, no hate issues whatsoever otherwise we wouldn't be friends regardless of what he called himself. He says he's a "different type" of republican. I know he voted for Obama. I know he never voted for bush. I think his republicanism rests largely on the unpracticed upon republican ideals of less government intrusion and fiscal responsibility. I have to admit that those ideas are attractive to me as well. Hey, we all have to hope that our party lives up to its platform, right? I think the last time he voted republican was when Lincoln was around (he's only 40). But he still calls himself a republican.

[montanto]

41. But just so you know I'm calibrated properly,

my parents (mom is dead, but still) are republicans and they fit the above description, so I'm a surviving ACOAR (Adult Child Of a Republican).

On a recent trip to visit my father I used his computer to book a flight home and couldn't help but see a white supremacist sight in his browser history. I just hit a back button or something and there I was at Stormfront. I could almost hear the banjo playing outside. Couldn't get home fast enough.

[Arkansas Granny]

37. I know many Republicans who are not filled with hate. We disagree on some

political points, but, in general, they are good, compassionate people. Painting with a broad brush is no more flattering for liberals than it is for anyone else.

[JerseygirlCT]

39. Oh yes

They might seem like dinosaurs, and we might not understand how they can continue in that party, but they exist. They used to be quite common in the northeast, actually. Marked by fiscal conservatism and social laissez-faire.

Sorry you're having such an ugly week!

[KonaKane]

40. In all my years dealing with them, I've run into a grand total of

.....2

That's right, 2 who weren't consumed with greed and hate. And this is coming from someone who was politically active in several causes over a 25 year period.

Pathetic.

[hack89]

42. I know a bunch. nt

[Earth Bound Misfit]

45. That's a big negatory.

I'd settle for one that wasn't full of SHIT.

[jillan]

46. lol - I should have used that in my OP.

[Blue-Jay]

47. Yeah, but I don't know any who aren't full of shit.

[Ignis]

48. Only one--but he's full of greed, instead.

I think most Republicans are full of a mixture of the two, but most who trend towards the Greed end of the spectrum (rather than the Hate end) call themselves "Libertarians."

[onestepforward]

49. I live around a whole bunch of them in the suburbs

and they all have a hateful streak toward some other group of people. The only time that I see any type of compassion from them is if they have judged a person to be "worthy" of it. Very sad. When I'm not furious at them, I pity them.

[Riftaxe]

50. I whole heartedly agree

But why stop there i am sure that you will agree that all those damn:
Blacks Jews, Asians, Liberals, whites, socialists, Handicapped, Homeosexuals, Communists, Teabaggers, Gypsies, Youths, Elderly, Native Americans, progressives, Republicans, Insert ethnic/religuous epithet of choice are nothing but subhuman scum with nothing but hatred in their hearts.
:sarcasm:


Hell I could go on for days, history is replete with people of your repulsive mindset; and i suspect that you will not even gleam the slightest meaning of the above list.

I could advise you to grow up and try to become a mature decent open minded person , but i don't think chastising you will do much good, my tag line pretty much sums up my feelings about people who hold your opinions regardless of what group they are targeting.

[jberryhill]

56. "people of your repulsive mindset"

Seems you missed one on the list.

Or was it your intention to be ironic in exhibiting the exact type of behavior you purport to condemn?

[Riftaxe]

69. which one did i miss?

minority groups have always been persecuted.

[Riftaxe]

73. if i can figure out how to PM you i will

my post was meant to demonstrate the irony of the OP. Lol but it would not be unusual for me to step foot in an irony trap :P such is the nature of remote discussions :)

[Quantess]

60. Awesome! I think it's time to for you to start a new thread.

It's called a "suicide run". That will be fun.

[Riftaxe]

72. I don't think there is a need to start a thread

Dehumanization through out history is a record in and of itself, first you group them all by one, then you discount them as human beings.

The Germans did it, the KKK still does, it. I am sorry if that makes you feel uncomfortable, but i don't give a crap about zealots, you do not represent the democratic party.

Like it or not, accept it or not, we are all human beings(whether you like it or not), no matter what color, religion, or beliefs.

Sure it's easy to demonize people, that's what makes genocide so palatable to people of your ilk.

[Quantess]

77. "...people of your ilk." I genuinely am Laughing Out Loud at that.

Did you really need to PM me to expound further on your theory?
(Laughing subsides, gradually)

I'm sorry that I led you to believe I care about this thread, or even what it's referencing, at all. My admittedly trivial point was that, sometimes newbies can't contain themselves when it comes to outing themselves as a FReeper. Calm down, I am not saying you are a FReeper, because I am not familiar enough with your posts. But if you felt the need to tell us all how you really feel, it might be a fun time had by all. Just wanted to clarify that. :)

[AllenVanAllen]

51. Republicans are like angry children

playing games, when what's needed is adults ready to solve problems. This is what I always hear, It's not fair! You can't tell me what to do!

All I have to say is, Grow up.

[gauguin57]

52. I actually do know some moderate republicans who are reasonable, and not filled with hate.

They're socially liberal, but genuinely believe in smaller government.

They're registered republican (to be elected to anything in most parts of my county, you have to be a republican. sad, but true; I know that some self-employed businesspeople register republican for the same reason -- they'd actually lose customers if anyone found out they were dems at heart. I know it's icky as all get out, but that's the reality here in Republican Hell).

And they are NOT filled with hate. Not at all. I think they hate the right-wing wackos who are hijacking their party, however.

[babsbunny]

53. not me.........

hateful and prejudice.

[Greyhound]

54. yes. n/t

[proteus_lives]

55. Yeah, I do.

[glinda]

57. no

[Froward69]

58. Unreccing does not change the truth

I do know they love each other. Well, as long as they are all in agreement they do.

[olegramps]

59. What I find is that they are hypocrites:

Republicans have been opposed to every social legislation, yet it certainly doesn't deter them from taking advantage of those evil liberal things like Social Security and Medicare. Nor does it deter them from using the federal highway system, enjoying clean water, sewage systems, FDA approved drugs, and the public school system which they now want to destroy and have the government pay them to send their kids to Christian brainwashing academies. The list of "liberal" measures that they have opposed in the past and don't hesitate to use would fill pages.

One of my acquaintances is typical of today's Republican. His father was successful, but ran into financial difficulties. He worked in the family business but found himself unemployed and actually unemployable except at menial jobs. He was ranting about liberals when I asked him just how the hell could he and his wife even survive without Social Security and Medicare that he is forced to supplement by working for a car dealership hauling around customers for six bucks an hour. These people are not evil, they are just plain damn stupid.

[Ohio Joe]

61. or full of shit? - nt

[Lilyeye]

62. At one point, it did seem hard to find one. Esp in my family and area.

However, I am sure they're republicans out there who aren't. Just like they're some democrats who are hateful and some who are not.

[RagAss]

64. Fear.

[Raine]

66. Yes ... some of my relatives

are repugs and they are kind loving people. I just think they are short sighted and ill informed but they aren't hateful. I still love them.

[Earth Bound Misfit]

67. I used to know one I loved dearly.

RIP Dad. I miss you.

[emilyg]

68. Yes - many.

[DFW]

71. I've met a few, and one of them is still alive

That would be former Rep. Kolbe of Arizona, whose seat is now filled by Gabrielle Giffords, a Democrat.

The others, guys like Jacob Javits, Nelson Rockefeller, Gerald Ford, were all nice guys, but I doubt
any of them would have identified with today's mouth-frothing nut cases.

Coming from the South as I do, don't even get me started on the typical Republican types I meet in
everyday life. Guns'n'God, every last one of them. Too much e-coli in the meat or something...........

[On the Road]

74. If You Can Even Ask Such a Question

you need to get out more.

[Kltpzyxm]

75. There are a few

But I don't know one that isn't full of shit.

B-)

[mstinamotorcity]

76. Nope,No,and Hell no

And African American Repugs are the worst.And I can say that,because I am not ashamed of being black.And white.and Cherokee.and Latino.Hell just think of it as Gumbo.:hi: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[NYMountaineer]

78. You mean a Repub politician or just a regular Repub?

Politicians...well, they might be hard to come by, who aren't real kooks.

I've got quite a few Repub friends. Often people who you wouldn't suspect. For example, one a black, fashion-design intern living in NYC, the other is a long-haired, tie-dyed, coffee-shop-guitar-playing Christian conservative. Not all Repubs are Teabagger doofuses.

[AspenRose]

79. As you already know, I married one :-)

And he didn't vote in 2008. Hang in there :hug:

[Lorien]

81. Yes, but he's an odd Republican. Hated Dubya and has a subscription

to the Utne reader. Vegetarian, into the small house and "voluntary simplicity" movement, blames deregulation for the BP gusher (not scuba diving ELF members, like many baggers do). But he's an orthodox Christian, so maybe that's why he's signed up with the dark side.