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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:05 AM
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Goldman Sachs Sells 4.68 Million Shares of BP Days before Deepwater Explosion
Now that BP stock has lost nearly half its value... it is interesting to note that Goldman Sachs sold 4.68 Million shares just before the explosion.

I'm not implying any conspiracy or wrong-doing. It's just interesting to see who the "players" are.

How do those clever, crafty Banksters over at Goldman Sachs always seem make a killing? I guess they are just super-human business people. I wish I had that luck and/or know-how.

I wonder.. is BP ready for a takeover? Maybe by Royal Dutch Shell? :shrug:

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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:07 AM
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1. well, I sure as hell dont trust Goldman Sachs. makes you wonder.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:15 AM
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5. It doesnt make me wonder a single bit. The market is rigged. nm
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 12:43 PM
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30. Personally, I'd rather invest in lottery tickets.
At least I know what my chances are with them.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 01:32 PM
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32. Agree. nm
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:09 AM
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2. Wasn't there was some weirdness regarding some airlines' stock
Edited on Wed Jun-02-10 10:09 AM by rocktivity
right before 9/11?

:shrug:
rocktivity
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:09 AM
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3. sure was.
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:51 AM
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22. Good thing we got to the bottom of that and found out who was behind it.
Oh, wait, nevermind... I must've been thinking of something else...
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:14 AM
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4. important news - keeping it kicked
nt
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:48 AM
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20. K&R n/t Suspicious
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:16 AM
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6. What do they do...make their transactions retroactive?
Edited on Wed Jun-02-10 10:18 AM by Frustratedlady
Didn't BP have a hint something was wrong hours before the explosion? Maybe someone picked up on their communication?

This stinks to high heaven.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:16 AM
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7. It'd be interesting who was shorting BP. nm
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:17 AM
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8. How significant is it? I don't now much about stocks at all...
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:18 AM
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9. Off to the store for some reynolds wrap
I've not considered any conspiracy theories either (mainly because these people don't tend to commit corporate suicide), until now.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:21 AM
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10. a bit of insider trading.
Some oil patch worker whispered in their ear.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 02:06 PM
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33. There are reports of trouble at the wellhead a couple of weeks before.
Remember, BP was behind schedule and decided to take the quickest route in getting the well capped and ready to go.

Poor worm figured he better let his cousin's old college roommate's girlfriend's brother know -- not that there's anything unusual with that.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:23 AM
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11. they knew they had trouble with this well for a while before the blowout.
key players, esp Halliburton, would have had access to the info in advance of the disaster.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:39 AM
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18. Bingo!
Can anyone check Cheney's transactions? I'm sure it wasn't just Goldman.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:58 AM
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24. theme for a thriller -- "real life" corporate "shorting"
but, i bet it happens all the time. where a contractor does shitty work on mission critical systems, and based on that knowledge, money is made by divesting at a critical moment.

actually, too mundane for fiction now that i see it in writing.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 12:04 PM
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27. I think that might be it, nashville brook. n/t
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:28 AM
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12. At least Halliburton was the last company to touch the rig---that should ease your mind.
No conspiracy to see here.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:50 AM
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21. Halliburton always seems to leave unscathed. Please not this time...
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:29 AM
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13. I'm sure The Commission will get to the bottom of this and find
that there were no shenanigans. :sarcasm:
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:31 AM
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14. seems like they would have been SHORTING the stock
if they truly knew what was coming, not still owning ANY of it.

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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:35 AM
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16. Right, they would've made more money going the other way
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 12:22 PM
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28. This is the correct answer.
Ride that elevator all the way down.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 01:24 PM
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31. Maybe that would have looked too obvious.
Edited on Wed Jun-02-10 01:25 PM by Rex
Not saying this was a conspiracy, just that they read the tea leafs and knew about BPs real safety record. Didn't want to start a panic by pulling out all their assets.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:34 AM
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15. Maybe they'll split off the US operations and the rest will be acquired by a sovereign oil company
If the main company were bought by a sovereign owned oil company or a national champion, the US might not be able to touch it.

For example, they might be acquired by Saudi Aramco or Sinopec. Or maybe by one of the Russian majors, since Russia is their second largest operation after the US.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:36 AM
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17. Just a coinky dink.
:freak: :puke:
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:39 AM
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19. Wow, looks like they sold for $59 per share back in january...
they must have some super fancy crystal ball, LOL!
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:55 AM
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23. Knowing how many shortcuts BP was given allowance for in this misadventure, it makes sense.
Edited on Wed Jun-02-10 10:56 AM by KittyWampus
It seems there were problems before the actual blowout.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 11:05 AM
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25. Just a coincidence -- nothing to see here -- move on -- return to your homes.
You wouldn't want to be called a wacky conspiracy theorist, would you?
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 11:18 AM
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26. WOW...very strange and supicious. I guess it could be a coincidence
but it probably isn't. Definitely needs to be investigated.
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gravity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 12:31 PM
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29. Other institutions bought millions of shares too
There is nothing out of the ordinary here.

The report data is for march 31st which is more than 20 days before the deep water explosion. Chances are that Goldman Sachs cant see in the future and sold BP for other reasons.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 11:43 PM
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38. You're right, nothing out of the ordinary for Goldman Sachs.
They always tell their clients to buy while they're dumping out the ass.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 11:03 PM
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34. Things that make you go Hmmm.
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GReedDiamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 11:10 PM
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35. Goldman Sachs - Disaster Capitalists Extraordinaire! - k&r, n/t
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ohheckyeah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 11:27 PM
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36. n/t
Edited on Wed Jun-02-10 11:30 PM by ohheckyeah
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 11:39 PM
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37. 4.68 million shares at about 60 bucks a share is in the ball park of $250 million
which constitutes about half a percent of their 2009 revenue of over $45 billion.

I'm getting images of Dr. Evil in the Austin Powers movie when I envision somebody thinking the profits off this transaction would be large in Goldman Sachs terms.
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