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demtenjeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 07:59 PM
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After 40 years, I would NOT want to start over. Heck they are grandparents
There must be something on the horizon to warrent this?


you don't have a great love and then trash it after 40 years.



I am afraid there is more to the story.


I have never really been fond of Tipper. Her attack on rock bands made her a little prudish...
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 08:06 PM
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1. I read that they grew apart...
And that is certainly possible. Especially when you're in the public eye.

:shrug:

:hi:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 08:08 PM
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3. Political marriages are very, very tough to keep going. They should get apartments
in the same building. I've known some folks like that that almost got divorced and realized they just didn't want to live with that person any more, yet didn't want to be divorced or find someone new either. Sometimes, you just need space.

In other words, I'll bet he's a terrible snorer.
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demtenjeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 08:08 PM
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4. it is just sad!
I would NEVER get married again...I love my spouse, but after 20 years, we have each other trained. If we split, I would be done.


I can see growing apart, We have developed interests on our own, but we still love each other even if we don't want to spend 24/7 together.
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demtenjeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 08:09 PM
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7. OH and Hello California Peg.
Glad you are okay. Told ya it was nuttin!
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 08:48 PM
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21. Hi, sweetie!
You were right...thank God!
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 09:36 PM
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28. Glad you're OK too!
Saw your thread over at DU Lounge.

Glad it turned out to be nothing.

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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 12:04 AM
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38. Me too...
Thanks...

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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 08:07 PM
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2. I will never forgive her
She was responsible for the "parental warning" thing on albums and CD's. I say let the artist's feelings come out and decide for yourself.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 08:09 PM
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5. We do it on magazines and films. It didn't really affect music or sales. nt
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 09:34 PM
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26. Maybe not.
But artists should have the right to express themselves any way they see fit. If a person doesn't care for it, they don't have to buy it.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 09:41 PM
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31. There are some things I'd like to keep from little kids. A rating system helps do that.
Artists still produce what they want and folks buy it.

No big deal. If an eight year old is prohibited from buying sexually violent music, it's okay by me.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 08:23 PM
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12. do you have children?
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 09:33 PM
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25. Yes
And we raised them to be independent thinkers and turn away from some of the rap shit that was one of the targets of Tipper Gore's wrath, along with some metal. I hate that crap but I still support their right to spew filth and hatred.
I actually love Blues and old Rock and Roll music but if Tipper had her way, I think she may have tried to censor some of that too. A lot of Blues music is sexually based. A lot of it. But that's the way a lot of those older guys grew up and they expressed it though music. Why shouldn't the rappers and metal people be the same?
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 09:39 PM
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30. You do realize her campaign for "explicit lyrics" just made kids buy more devil music. nt
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 08:09 PM
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6. What I don't understand is ...
why the personal life of a perfect stranger should matter to me in the least! I could understand living vicariously through celebrities if I had no life of my own, but having a life, I don't give a rat's ass about what celebrities do.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 08:42 PM
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16. People fascinate me, I don't live my life
thru them but how they think and why they do the things they do intrigue me. I have an inborn sense of curiosity, I think you can learn from how others deal with things.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 08:47 PM
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19. I don't understand it either
Unless someone knows them personally. Yes, I am a big Al Gore fan. Respect him for a lot of things he has done. Think he would've made one heck of a president. But him and Tipper---their marriage---don't really care one way or another. Well, I guess enough to make this post, but this was more about agreeing with you than really caring.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 08:09 PM
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8. I always feel sad when couples separate/divorce after long term marriages
Even if I don't know them personally.

I don't know why...

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tibbiit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 08:57 PM
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23. its happening to me now after 29 years
its sucks more than i could ever have imagined. I feel for them and especially for me.
tib
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demtenjeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 09:18 PM
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24. I am sorry Tibbiit n/t
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 09:43 PM
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34. Sorry to hear it.
:hug:
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 08:13 PM
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9. None of my business and I do not give a single fuck. nt
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 08:26 PM
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13. Well, they say that folks just don't feel empathy as much as they used to. Exhibit A. nt
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 08:44 PM
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17. I agree and find it sad...
people should look at others and feel something for them and their pain.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 08:48 PM
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20. Yes. And not hurl vulgar invective at those who do care. Keep feeling, Raine. nt
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 10:33 PM
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35. You too! :-) nt
:thumbsup:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 08:14 PM
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10. being married doesn't magically protect from the vagaries of life and living.
40 years is something quite extraordinary in and of itself.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 08:20 PM
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11. Oh dear GAWD I hope there's no more to the story.
I've had enough of Tipper Gore for one lifetime.
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TNDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 08:27 PM
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14. The own houses in different states.
Can't they just live separately? What a complicated mess to divvy everything up and holidays should be no fun unless they could cooperate together to see kids and grandkids (mine never could). I can't understand why they can't just live separate lives instead of making everything legal.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 08:29 PM
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15. everyones marriage ends eventually, unless you both jump off a cliff together
and you start over. no matter what age you are.
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Lindsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 08:54 PM
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22. I really like Tipper. She's suffered from depression and that was
going to be something she was going to address had she been first lady. I have to say I'm shocked. Who cares about a frickin' kiss?
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 10:45 PM
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36. That's very true
My grandparents were married 55 years when my grandmother died. My grandfather after a couple of years, found a very nice lady friend that he spends time with. I guess him and her have been "friends" for probably 6 or 7 years now. Even into your 80s you still enjoy companionship.
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iris27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 08:46 PM
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18. Usually when a split happens after this long, the marriage has been bad a long, long time,
and the troubles have just been kept private.

My dad's parents split when I was 18 months old, after more than 30 years together, but their marriage was full of bitterness as far back as any of their kids can remember. It just took my grandma until her mid-50s to become financially independent enough to leave.

Similarly, my parents' marriage "lasted" 17 years, but really it was over after 8...and they both started cheating after about 18 months.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 09:34 PM
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27. I never liked Tipper. Hysterical anti-video game nut.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 09:36 PM
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29. And I should care because...
Edited on Tue Jun-01-10 09:38 PM by nadinbrzezinski
serious... why exactly should I care about their breaking up?

Good luck to both, but this is one of those where nobody should care.

Ok on edit, their kids and direct family should, after that this is only gossip... though I am looking forwards to the scream sheets theories on this... some juicy material for fiction should be in there.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 09:42 PM
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32. But you have to feeeeeeeeeeel bad for them
Edited on Tue Jun-01-10 09:42 PM by Codeine
or you're a terrible person with no empathy.

One doubts the Gores would be so cerned about the marriages of any DU folk.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 09:43 PM
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33. i don't think they just trashed it , they probably tried to make it work
Edited on Tue Jun-01-10 09:45 PM by JI7
but they were spending less time together and their lives were just different now.

i don't think they see it as starting over either. just a change in their life.

i wouldn't be surprised if they got back together .
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 10:46 PM
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37. My Spidey sense tells me people do not jettison 40 year marriages "just because"
That's my only observation.

It's really sad. They appeared to be in it for the long haul. They seemed like Canada geese.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 12:38 AM
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39. So what are you trying to infer? That one of them was cheating?
:eyes:

Frankly, that's their business, not any of ours.

And I want to add that I'm glad that Tipper tried to make a difference.

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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 12:41 AM
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40. It's not uncommon
at least in my experience. Both my husband's and my ex-husband's parents divorced after 40 years.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 12:43 AM
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41. Meh, boring.
:boring:
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 02:36 AM
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42. You know, the Gores basically told the public that their decision
is none of our business. I think that we should respect that wish and really take it to heart. It is none of our business and that includes speculation that leads to ginning up BS stories for the gossip mill. I respect both of these people and the privacy they have requested.
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