Gallup: Republicans Post Big Gains in Generic Ballot, up 49-43

[MadBadger]

Thats my headline btw, and its not good

http://www.gallup.com/poll/127439/Election-2010-Key-Indicators.aspx

Last week Democrats were up 46-45, this week they are down 6. That is the biggest movement in the generic ballot in weeks. I wonder what caused it to move this much and I hope its just a minor blip or an outlier.

[BeyondGeography]

1. Nonstop MSM rippage of the Prez on the oil spill hasn't helped

It's also correctable.

[Ex Lurker]

21. not unless he does something about it

and so far he hasn't, beyond a photo-op trip to the Gulf Coast that didn't change a damn thing.

[BeyondGeography]

24. Mostly, it's about reality setting in

Since no one, including you, can point to a single meaningful thing that he could have done differently to change the actual facts of the spill and its aftermath.

[Ex Lurker]

25. he could have cleaned out the Interior Dept and MMS last year,

he could have been more proactive from the beginning once the spill hit. he could have held BP's feet to the fire from the beginning instead of letting them defy EPA orders on dispersants. He could have had his people do a better job of coordinating with state/local officials. I can go on, but there are four things right off the bat he could have done differently. This is the defining moment of his presidency, and he looks unengaged.

[BeyondGeography]

28. None of which would have prevented BP from behaving as they did when it really mattered

The spill was going to happen because of their actions, not Obama's. Lest you need a reminder:

http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978242011

As for this being the defining moment of his presidency, you might have an argument if people died because of what he did, not a corporation.

[bluestateguy]

2. Strikes me as false

1000 "people" in a phone survey. Whatever.

[Radical Activist]

3. The movement on both sides is within the margin of error.

Nothing big about it.

[uponit7771]

7. +1

[Scuba]

4. Hey everybody, my rigged poll says Americans love Republicans. Jump on board.

[jaysunb]

5. LOL !

Bingo :thumbsup:

[MadBadger]

6. Gallup isnt like Rasmussen where its clear they have a bias one way or another

Yet here you are stating it like its obvious.

[Scuba]

13. The mark of a well-rigged poll: It's not obvious....

...for example "we surveyed random residents of Southern California". Would that be East LA? Orange County? It's not always about the questions.

Go Bucky !!!

[MadBadger]

15. Try to apply your reasoning to, "we surveyed random Americans"

[Scuba]

16. Sure...

...we surveyed random Americans by calling them on the phone. This limits the survey to those who have phones, at a minimum. It could also further limit the survey to those who still have land-lines (mostly older folks).

Or perhaps it was a survey you could only respond to by text message, which would shift the demographic to the young. Maybe you had to respond by mailing in a survey, which shifts it back to the older crowd.

There are a million ways to rig a poll. Tommy Thompson got our citizens to say that we wanted more prisons and fewer schools. How's that for rigging a poll?

Pollsters are bought and paid for. The results of polls have an impact on public opinion (gee, most people seem to think X, so I guess X is right). I call this the "popularity bounce".

[MadBadger]

26. Gallup includes cell phones, and it isnt a text only survey.

[Scuba]

27. So it must be legit, huh? C'mon us Cheeseheads are smarter than that.

[MadBadger]

29. A badger, but not a cheesehead. It isnt "Smart" just to disbelief every poll you dont like

Thats dumb

[Scuba]

30. I don't believe the polls I do like either, so it's OK.

Go Bucky!!!

[Radical Activist]

11. Hey Democrats, my rigged poll says its Crist or Rubio. Jump on board!

[depakid]

17. Gallup has long been know to put polls out that attempt to influence public opinion

not reflect it.

[depakid]

18. dupe

[clarence swinney]

23. REPUBLICANS ARE BEST

second best

OTE: THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE 8 YEARS OF BUSH II AND NEO-CON DISASTERS --IMAGINE THAT HORRID LIST

HOW TO IDENTIFY A CONSERVATIVE

Love to Spend & Borrow
Hate to pay your way
Praise two presidents who, over 12 years, had an average GDP growth of 2.6%.
Love gutless Marine and Admiral who pled the Fifth to avoid conviction for crimes.
Love 137 who were charged with crimes over 8 years of plunder the treasury.

-----------------YOU ARE A CONSERVATIVE IF YOU CLAIM THESE------------


# 1--Debt Creation—equivalent of 600 years worth in 12 years.
# 1--Deficit Creation—400 years worth in 8 years
# 1--Lowest GDP Growth, over a 12 years period, since WWII.
# 1--In number of times (258) a President and Admiral testified under oath “I don’t remember”.
# 1--Bank Failures—President smiling and chanting “No Pain –No Gain”.
# 1--Personal Bankruptcies -President smiling and chanting “No Pain-No Gain”
# 1--Business Bankruptcies-President smiling and chanting “No Pain-No Gain”
# 1--Farm Foreclosures
# 1--Looting of S & Ls after a President said –“Folks, I think we just hit the jackpot.” The Vaults are unguarded come and get it. They did. 140 Billion charge to taxpayers.
# 1--Total bankruptcies
# 1--Stagnating median incomes
# 1--60% Tax Cut to Rich
# 1--In having a President with Alzheimer’s. No pain-No gain.
# 1--In having a President who was Produced-Directed-and Protected like a Grade B actor in a Role.
# 1--In having a President who lied, over and over, about his wife’s age. Who cared?
-# 1--In having the first President to have had a Shotgun Wedding.
# 1—In having a President who shacked up with love of his life while his wife was in the hospital delivering their child.
# 1--To have a President who lied about having a close-knit family.
# 1--To have a President guided in his decisions by the Stars
# 1--In having a President who preached religious values but never had membership in a church and rarely attended worship services and was never known to pray
# 1--In having a President who called a lying, stealing, wife abusing psychotic Marine a “Hero” then a “Liar”.
# 1--In having a President who rarely used the word “ethics” during 16 years in Government.
# 1--In losing 241 Marines from a stupid decision to shell civilian villages.

# 1--In claiming a “Great Victory” after an attack on a small Island with 88,000 inhabitants armed with .22 rifles and pea shooters.
# 1--In claiming as a “Great Victory” and proclaiming “we have finally killed the Vietnam Syndrome” and “America Stands Tall Again”. What would he have said had we conquered Haw River N C. Greatest victory since WWII?
# 1--In pushing a “disinformation campaign” against a very small nation then bombing that nation which resulted in a revenge bombing of Pan Am 103 killing 270 Civilians.

Then, bragging how he had “defeated Terrorism”. Till Bush resurrected it.

# 1--In shooting down an airliner and killing 290 civilians. OOPS! Goof. Sorry Iran.
# 1--In having a 20% Prime Interest Rate smiling and proclaiming “No Pain-No Gain”.
# 1--In having the highest “real” Interest Rates since WWII.
# 1--In having 15% Home Loan Interest Rates and smiling-No Pain-No Gain.
# 1--in having 16% college loan interest rate
# 1--In killing the Home Construction Business by allowing Raids on S & L’s to use money for golf course, resorts, business building etc. where in the past the primary purpose was to build homes in local communities.
# 1--In having 10.8 % unemployment while smiling. No Pain-No Gain. Highest rate since great depression.
# 1--In having a recession in one-third of twelve years.
# 1—In scandals. Every Major Scandal in 20th Century was on a Republican Administration unless you want to call ML major.

----------------------YOU ARE A GREAT CONSERVATIVE IF----------

You don’t like children (screw them they don’t vote)
You don’t like the poor (screw them they don’t vote)
You don’t like the elderly (screw them they are unproductive and wasteful)
You don’t like the infirmed elderly (screw then they don’t vote)
You don’t like students ( keep them stupid so they will vote Republican)
You hate unions
You don’t like minorities ( screw them not enough vote)
You don’t like legal immigrants ( screw them they don’t vote)
You love profiteering from public service
You love the very wealthy and cannot do enough for them
You worship big business
67% poll to Torture—Great Christians?
You like, admire, and almost worship that which 75% of Americans detest as mean and cruel--Your God-Newtnut
You love all types of killing guns
You love executions
You love to steal elections
You were against WWII Draft
You hate Medicare (but love to use it)
You hate Social Security (but love to get it)
You hate Medicaid
You love world’s largest rich man’s gambling casino-Wall Street
You love to kill Mommie’s by denying abortion that will save her life


Want a Deep Recession then take a chance with Republicans in total control for their history is that---ALL depressions—all “significant” recessions have been under a Republican Administration in the Twentieth Century.

Addendeum10-08-O9
20 years of Conservatism—Reagan-Bush I-Bush II and we have been in a Recession in 7 of 20 years or in 35 percent of the years.

clarence swinney-old ugly mean honest
---unbiased, impartial, objective political historian--
You love to tear down years of Progress and smile as you slash and burn yelling “No Pain-No gain”.
You love, with a passion, the opportunity to transfer wealth from hard working middle class to those who will never spend their wealth but just keep yelling ”More-More-More-give us more and we will never be satisfied until we are like Haiti where 5% own 95 % of the wealth.
You love to use the whip of punishment instead of the effort to change and save from sin.
You love the threat of War which allows you the opportunity to send more wealth to big corporations and the rich

[emulatorloo]

8. Margin of Error?

Sounds like an abberation, but I guess we will see.

[Robbins]

9. Gallup

Yet there Is a gallup poll which has Democrats viewed more favorable than Republicans.The problem with Gallup Is It acts like a
seesaw.Going up and down all the time witht his and Obama's approval rating.Plus as I keep pointing out Generic ballet Is not a
good way to predict who wins.For years after the Republican takeover In 1994 Democrats were ahead but Republicans keep Congress.
Of course all the negative coverage on the oil spill Isn't helping matters.

[MadBadger]

12. The other poll is a USA Today/Gallup. It actually isnt taken from the same sample.

[emulatorloo]

10. GALLUP: Republicans' rating down from March (36%) , Democrats' appears to have stabilized (43%)

That's a couple threads down from yours:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x322854

[Demoiselle]

19. Beat me to it, Emulatorloo...Excellent point...

[uponit7771]

14. RCP avg dems still up .8....rAssMucis and Gallup outliers

[BzaDem]

20. This appears to be the largest Republican lead since 1950 (when the poll started).

Ugh.

Hopefully it's an outlier that will change next week. Rasmussen didn't change that much week to week, so it very well could be statistical noise.

[clarence swinney]

22. WILL DEMOCRATS EVER GO ON OFFENSE

1980 to 2009 Middle Class Shafting

Brief Analysis

1945-1980 were Great Middle Class Years.
Affordable Education-Homes-Health Care-Jobs Jobs-Unions-Pensions

Reagan and NeoCons came on in 1981.
Ir was intentional ENRICH Wall Street reduce Middle Class.
1945-1% owned 30% Total Financial Wealth
1989-36% (Ron big tax cuts for 1%)
2008--Bush Finished the Job
1%=43%
10%=70%
20%=93%
80%=7%-=20,000,000 workers=SHAFTED

20 years 3 Conservative presidents
18 years Conservative Senate
12 years Conservative House
6 years TOTAL CONTROL
Bush 8 let Wall Street go into Big Time Gambling
Instead of using investors money to create new businesses and increase current ones and create Jobs,
They created 31,000 Net New Jobs per Month.A sham.
Prior were Carter 218,000--Reagan 175,000--Clinton record 237.000
31,000 was an insult to working America.
During Bush 8 Wall Street shipped 2,300,000 of our jobs to China,

The Conservative ideology of Market knows best gave us Great Depression and Great Recession. Even Ultra Conservative Alan Greenspan had to admit it.

WHAT DID THEY DO??
Since 1980
60% Tax Cut to Top 1%
47% Tax Cut to Gamblers on Wall Street in Unearned Income Tax
Huge Estate Tax Cut
Revenue Sharing costs to rich in income taxes transferred to Middle Class in property taxes.
Fed gave Bush 1% Interest and big increase in Total Money Supply
1920's Deja Vu. Banks rushed to borrow and lend lend lend to Developers
to build homes too large-too expensive for middle class declining disposable income
Increased Middle Class Payroll Tax
Taxes SS income
Five Cent Tax On Gas
Spending Spree on Defense which enriched Rich Investors in Defense
stocks,.
The Big Three took a 1000B of Debt from Carter and added on 8000B in 20 years of Spend + Borrow Our kids Can Pay Tomorrow.

Carter left Reagan a 600B Budget to which he added on 80%.
Carter left Reagan a less than 1000B of Debt and he added on 1700B
Clinton left Bush an 1800 B Biudget which Bush took to 3600B..
Clinton left Bush a Surplus as far as an eye could see and Bush added on
6000B Debt or more than we had after 220 years.Grover Nutquist had a party..

Folks! It was intentional. Grover Nutquist of ATR made 127 visits to White House in Bush first term. He was one who wanted to drown Government in a bathtub..How! Spend and Borrow to force us to eliminate Social Programs.
He has us, in 2010, exactly where he wanted us.
Facts hurt. Democrats are just dumb to not preach it over and over
clarence swinney old ugly mean honest