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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 04:20 PM
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The U.S.MUST NOT veto any U.N. Security Council resolutions on the aid ship murders
The Israeli Navy had NO security justification in boarding the ships. They knew there was no cargo on them that endangered Israeli security. And the ship was in INTERNATIONAL waters.

There is no justification for ANY U.S. veto of any Security Council resolutions on this issue. There is NO defense for what was done.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 04:25 PM
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1. I think we might abstain, because honestly, Israel was playing games WAY OUTSIDE...
Edited on Mon May-31-10 04:25 PM by Poll_Blind
...the park this time. Way outside. If legislators from any of the countries invovled are among the dead, I guarantee it.

PB
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pschoeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 06:20 PM
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7. Abstaining is vetoing by UN security Council rules
The five permanent members have to unanimously consent and agree on any substantive measure, so abstaining is the same as overturning the measure.

Most Americans don't seem to understand this, and think the US is playing some kind of middle ground when it abstains, though in reality when it does, it is supporting Israel.

http://www.un.org/sc/members.asp
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 04:31 PM
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2. Justification, smustification. Israel will do what it wants to do and anyone who thinks the US
would not veto any U.N. Security Council resolution against Israel is wistfully thinking/not a student of history. :P
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 04:33 PM
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3. If somebody doesn't hang for this
The International Criminal Court is as useless as tits on a boar hog.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 06:15 PM
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6. Well, the ICC doesn't actually get to hang people anyway
But a life sentence for Bibi WOULD be justified. Possibly at Spandau Prison.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 06:30 PM
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9. Actually I meant that figuratively
But after some thought, it wouldn't hurt my feelings if some of the leaders got turned over to countries that still do hang people.

I personally would not lose any sleep over yanking the rope on a few of these criminals.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 04:37 PM
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4. Word is they already have.
Edited on Mon May-31-10 04:38 PM by Barack_America
Some blogs are posting word from Al Jazeera that the US has taken a resolution off the table and is pushing for a "President's Statement" instead.

I've been to track down a better source for that info, without much luck.

ETA: Here's the link I saw...

http://palestinenote.com/cs/blogs/news/archive/2010/05/31/un-presidential-statement-no-resolution-on-gaza-convoy.aspx
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 06:21 PM
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8. Please tell me we're not opposing an investigation.
Al Jazeera also reported that the US is opposing calls by other members of the Security Council for an impartial, international investigation into the attack on the convoy, which left at least nine civilians dead.

http://palestinenote.com/cs/blogs/news/archive/2010/05/31/un-presidential-statement-no-resolution-on-gaza-convoy.aspx
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Puregonzo1188 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 04:37 PM
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5. I was thinking the same thing. The thought of the US vetoing the Security Council
Resolution makes me sick...though at this point honestly I'd be more surprised if they didn't then if they did.

Doesn't anybody have an email for Susan Rice (US rep at the UN) or whoever represents the US at the Security Council? I doubt they'll listen to us, but it couldn't hurt to flood them with emails.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 06:36 PM
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10. Recommended.
I agree.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 07:38 PM
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11. You're absolutely right. n/t
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 09:33 PM
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12. Considering the fact that we covered up for Israel
when they bombed the Liberty, killing many American sailors, I wouldn't be holding my breath waiting for us to do the right thing now.
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 09:41 PM
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13. Why is international waters important?
Civilian Russian ships were in international waters when JFK announced they would be boarded if they attempted to break the Cuban blockade. Maritime law allows it.
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 09:46 PM
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14. HA! Keep wishing

They wouldn't even do anything when Israel killed American citizens.

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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 09:55 PM
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15. Just watch. The U.S. will cover Israel's ass no matter what.
You don't think all our government's rhetoric about human rights and rule of law means any fucking thing, I hope. Certainly NOT when it comes to providing aid to Palestinians over protecting Israel.

I'm sick to death of it, but I know full well that nothing's going to change.

And the hard truth is, after all the decades of death and suffering, someday Israel will eventually have to come around to a one state solution. There's just no way that a colonialist, apartheid state can survive in the long run.

sw

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