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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 09:12 AM
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"He believes the correctness of his policies may not be recognized for 10, 15 years"
"He believes the correctness of his policies-including the war in Iraq-may not be recognized for 10, 15 years," says a Bush adviser. Adds another confidant: "If something reaches his level, it tends to be bad news, but he keeps it all in perspective, and there's no equivocation."

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/070506/14bush.htm



Sometimes there just are no words...
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 09:14 AM
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1. Sure there is a word for this.
D-E-N-I-A-L
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 09:20 AM
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7. Here's another word...
D-E-L-U-S-I-O-N-A-L

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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 09:14 AM
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2. "Someday": It's the ultimate in mental insulation!
"Someday, they'll love me for it"
"Someday, they'll appreciate my vision"
"Someday, they may actually pay off the bills I ran up" (oops! How did that one get it?)
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 09:15 AM
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3. The stupid leading the stupid.
If Gawd is telling Bush what to do, Gawd must be a drunk too!
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 09:16 AM
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4. We will gladly thank him Tuesday for his policies today.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 09:18 AM
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5. this jerk proves everyday how unstable he is, when are people
Congress, or whoever is going to come right out and say it!!!
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 09:19 AM
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6. In other words, if in 15 years something good happens, he wants the credit
He wants people to say this is happening now because he did something decades ago.

If in 100 years, Iraq is the only true free country on the planet, Bush would still be a war criminal

His invasion of Iraq would still be based on lies and trumped up evidence.

Some addled-brained historian writing lies years from now can't change that.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 09:28 AM
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13. Exactly.
In all likelihood, a mediocrity of these proportions will be totally forgotten in 15 years, so he won't be able to enjoy stealing credit, if that's his plan. In all likelihood, he will be deep in the middle of an Alzheimer's fog, mercifully for all.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 09:21 AM
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8. Nero's still waiting
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 09:23 AM
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9. Alternatively, it may be 10, 15 years before we fully realize how foolish Bush was and how much
damage he did. More likely outcome, imo.
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 09:25 AM
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10. So fat, drunk, and stupid is the right way to go through life.
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Matsubara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 09:27 AM
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11. Even if Iraq is on par with Sweden in terms of democracy & prosperity in 10 years...
...it will not justify the utterly needless murder of over 30,000 civilians in the aerial bombardment that began that completely unnecessary war against a nation that has never attacked or threatened the United States.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 09:27 AM
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12. Hopefully, he'll still be in prison then.
:grr:
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 09:31 AM
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14. What a dreamer
A foolish, obstinate and stubborn dreamer who can't see reality. Reminds me of druggies I've known who won't listen to you when you tell them they are killing themselves.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 09:32 AM
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15. You may say he's a dreamer
Let's just hope he's the only one...
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 09:39 AM
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18. Sorry
America is full-up with these kinds of dreamers. President Carter tried to wake them from their dreaming but all they wanted to hear was that a new morning in America would allow them to keep dreaming.

I say this as one of the 10%'ers who were wide awake in the fall of 2001.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 12:04 PM
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28. Which is why they're still worshipping Reagan..
he told them all the lies they wanted to hear,
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 09:35 AM
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16. He's clinically delusional if he really believes this...
"He believes the correctness of his policies-including the war in Iraq-may not be recognized for 10, 15 years," says a Bush adviser. Adds another confidant: "If something reaches his level, it tends to be bad news, but he keeps it all in perspective, and there's no equivocation."

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/070506/14bus...


de·lu·sion (n.) - 1. The act or process of deluding. 2.The state of being deluded.
A false belief or opinion: labored under the delusion that success was at hand.
Psychiatry. A false belief strongly held in spite of invalidating evidence, especially as a symptom of mental illness: delusions of persecution or grandeur.

More at:

http://www.answers.com/topic/delusion

Also see:

Delusional Disorder

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusional_disorder

http://www.emedicine.com/med/topic3351.htm

http://www.purgatory.net/merits/delusional.htm

http://www.psychologynet.org/delusion.html


Truly frightening and sickening.

TC
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 12:04 PM
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29. He is, and he does...n/t
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scorpiogirl Donating Member (662 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 09:38 AM
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17. Sounds like grand delusions to me. n/t
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 09:41 AM
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19. He's hoping everyone will have moved on to the new story about the missing
blond woman and forget.

I hate to break it to commander guy, but

people remember harding and buchanan for their incompetance.
They'll remember scrubbie too.
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mondo obscurius Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 09:41 AM
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20. Sounds like something
Sounds exactly like something one of his hired reality coaches might have said to him when he was half-way through a bottle of J&B rehearsing for a press-conference. I say this only because it's now obvious none of his policies were his idea to begin with.

But hey, whatever gets you through the night is alright mr. "commander guy".
:shrug:
m
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 09:45 AM
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21. He's walking aroung the WH wringing his hands muttering "someday they'll see...oh yes...they'll see
Edited on Tue May-08-07 09:49 AM by tjwash
He's turned into that nutty guy at the office that no one wants to talk to or make eye contact with. The one who walks around all day miuttering "sort this...file that...they'll pay...they'll all pay..."
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 09:49 AM
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22. When people are dying, there is nothing correct about
his policies now or in the future.. It will always be viewed as a war we should of never started, and deaths on both sides are catastrophic.... Fifteen years from now this war will be viewed as one of the worst mistakes in our bloody history....
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 09:49 AM
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23. And when Bush wa asked how history would remember him, he
said something like "who knows, we'll all be dead by then".
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 10:18 AM
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24. First 3 paragraphs of article
President Bush's admiration for Abraham Lincoln knows no bounds. In a recent meeting at the White House, Bush told visitors how Lincoln (whose portrait he has installed in the Oval Office) persevered in the Civil War despite many defeats on the battlefield, tens of thousands of casualties, and doubts among Northern voters that the conflict could ever be won. As the campaign of 1864 approached, Bush related, Lincoln admitted privately that he didn't think he would be re-elected, but pursued his policies anyway. Bush also described how Lincoln pressed on despite his grief when his beloved 11-year-old son Willie died in February 1862. The visitors came away with the conviction that Bush sees himself in Lincoln's mold more deeply than ever.


Comparing the Civil War to the Iraq War?

Comparing himself to Lincoln?
Lincoln didn't have a choice on waging war against the Confederacy. Bush did have a choice.
Severe casualty losses are likely with the type of weapons and conditions during the Civil War. There should be lower casualty losses in the Iraq War compared to the Civil War.
Civil War lasted from 4/1861 to late 1865 when all Confederate forces surrendered. Iraq War lasted from 3/19/2001 to 5/1/2001.

To Bush's critics, the incident is unsettling. Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean, noting that the president has also compared himself to Harry Truman, told U.S. News: "This is delusional-comparing the equivalent of Warren Harding to two of our greatest presidents!" Adds presidential historian Robert Dallek, author of Nixon and Kissinger: Partners in Power: "He may come across to some people as a man of principle, but a great majority see him as stubborn and unyielding. ... And everything he touches turns to dust."


This is all nonsense, according to senior White House officials. They say that Bush isn't delusional at all and that history will vindicate him, just as it vindicated Lincoln and Truman. "He believes the correctness of his policies-including the war in Iraq-may not be recognized for 10, 15 years," says a Bush adviser. Adds another confidant: "If something reaches his level, it tends to be bad news, but he keeps it all in perspective, and there's no equivocation."


I will be around 10 to 15 years from now. And I WILL make sure that scumbag is completely squashed as far as respect is concerned. I WILL make sure that the scumbag's character is totally exposed.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 12:07 PM
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31. If there was a President in history more opposite from George W. Bush..
than Abraham Lincoln, I don't know who it would be.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 10:19 AM
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25. In 10 or 15 years, we should begin seeing the first history books
to state this was one of the worst admins in US history.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 10:22 AM
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26. We're starting to appreciate Bill Clinton a little more and it's been
about 15 years since he started in office!

It is so weird the way they worship Bush, or feel that if they talk about Dubya in these grand terms, they can "make" his "greatness."

Their pathetic attempts to make this great hero of Dubya are more than nauseating.
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 12:05 PM
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30. Clinton is brilliant. Dubya is an idiot.
A complete imbecile was given 2 terms in office after Clinton. Clinton's legacy will only be improved by the comparison. Dubya will be fortunate if his legacy polls any higher than his IQ.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 11:46 AM
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27. talk about taking "the end justifies the means" to the extreme!
Edited on Tue May-08-07 11:46 AM by Lisa
Basically, because the promised good things haven't materialized (making it difficult to rationalize what he's done), he's decided to move the goalposts -- decade by decade, but eventually it will be centuries, and out to infinity!

Using that kind of logic, it's even possible to "justify" things like the fascist expansionism earlier in the 20th century ("Well, it cleared the way for the United States to become a superpower -- and having all those women doing defense work helped the feminist cause"). Or the genocide of "New World" peoples and the appropriation of their land and knowledge ("at least people in Europe found out how delicious potatoes are!").
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 12:09 PM
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32. Why not this one:
Warren G. Harding was really OK, because we emerged victorious in World War II.

Clinton was recognized for what he had accomplished (the good, the bad, and the
ugly, but at least a lot of good thrown in) during his term in office. Bush Lite
should be held to the same standard. And he will be. If he wants to go hibernate
for the next 15 years, and wake up to see if he was right, not only is it OK with
me, but I'll even encourage him to get an early start--like tomorrow!
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