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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 01:04 PM
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You can tell where this is going, but you can hardly believe it when it gets there
Category: Equality • Kooks
Posted on: May 25, 2010 10:45 AM, by PZ Myers

Some men have a particularly oblivious sense of privilege — these are the kinds of evil freaks who murder their children at the prospect that their ex-wife might get custody. The fact that they are men is used to blind them to the fact that there are these other human beings called women out there who have just as much right to their lives as they do.

Here's the opening paragraph of a blog post by a self-proclaimed anti-feminist.

When men have something women have less of, such as money or power, women simply take it by force. It's called affirmative action and feminists believe it's right. I am not going to argue against that. I accept that as a lost cause. So instead I am going to embrace forced equality and demand it for men as well.

What do women have that men don't? Vaginas. So poor pathetic Eivend Berge is asserting his right to rape. He's quite open about it: "it is about time men in feminist countries such as Norway stop thinking of rape as wrong" and "Rape is equality." You'll find his type is fairly common among a group who call themselves "Men's Rights" proponents, where Men's Right seems to be to maintain economic and social inequities that benefit them.

I'm afraid he needs to learn that legal corrections to a long and ongoing history of economic oppression of women are fair and just, and not comparable to using violence to abuse and degrade and physically and emotionally harm women. I should also point out that women have lived with this fear of rape for essentially the entire history of the human race, so his self-serving manifesto isn't exactly novel.

More:
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/05/you_can_tell_where_this_is_goi.php

Hat-tip to:
RT @AmandaMarcotte: http://bit.ly/comKLR 1st libertarians defend segregation, and now one suggests that rape be legalized. 6 minutes ago via TweetDeck
http://twitter.com/megancarpentier/status/14708405724


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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 01:07 PM
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1. It's time men stop thinking of rape as wrong
If another man jumps you in the shower at the gym, that's just the natural order of things, right? x(
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 01:12 PM
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3. EXCELLENT point!!
Someone has something you want..just take it!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 01:13 PM
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5. I like Eivend Berge's car. n/t
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 01:26 PM
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10. His PC is pretty too. All shiny and it has that cool "internet" thing.
I'll be the lookout.

What a monumentally sick, stupid fuck he is. Can't he be kicked outta the gene pool ASAP?
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 01:21 PM
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8. What Xema said
Nailed it :evilgrin:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 01:11 PM
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2. I apologize in advance for the language.but the first thing that came to mind was "What a SICK FUCK"
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 01:15 PM
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6. +1
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 01:35 PM
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14. I believe that's one of the rare occasions where that phrase is the only one...
That really fits.
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Crystal Clarity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 01:12 PM
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4. That is just beyond warped
Unbelievable. I'm at a total loss for words...
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 01:20 PM
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7. LOL. Commentor on pharyngula blog went to original link and quoted a comment from there:
Edited on Tue May-25-10 01:20 PM by BrklynLiberal
"Put down the Ayn Rand. Pick up a gun. Kill yourself."
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 01:23 PM
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9. I'm ashamed to admit I am LOLling hysterically at that. nt
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 01:32 PM
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11. clearly written by a 12 year old.
it's not even worth cogitating over - neanderthals have more class than that prepubescent broke-brain.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 01:33 PM
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12. Buy your own damn vagina!
Or bend over and I'll give you the phallic implement of my choice, since I'm not naturally endowed.

There are hundreds of commercially available disembodied vaginae available... I'd post a picture, but I'm sure you'd recognize them.

Idiots. Why are there so many goddamn idiots in the world? The Idiocracy sure took over quicker than I expected.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 01:35 PM
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13. Another opressed white man...
God we have it so rough...
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 01:37 PM
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15. I'll have to re-think my view that castrating men is wrong.
*sarcasm*
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:28 PM
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24. I think Mr. Berge has made the case for you. Men have penises,
women don't. That's not fair, so if you want one get your scissors. I suggest you start with Mr. Berge...
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 01:38 PM
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16. He should kill himself and take one for the team.
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 01:38 PM
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17. There are some people for whom being covered in honey and placed on a fire ant mound is too good.
Mr. Eivend Berge is one of them.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 02:02 PM
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18. I want to hold the parakeet that pecks him to death. n/t
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 02:05 PM
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20. Let's just leave his pecker for the parakeet.--and then let him survive with the
unusably damaged goods.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 02:03 PM
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19. "It isn't rape if she's wearing skinny jeans." Another gem from this miscreant.
Edited on Tue May-25-10 02:04 PM by blondeatlast
Because it requires her to help get them off... :puke:

Okay, so I Googled his name and found his blog.

As someone said in this thread--honey and an anthill are more than suitable. I feel I have to post the link, but I hate to do it:

http://eivindberge.blogspot.com/2010/05/rape-of-woman-in-skinny-jeans-not.html
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Crystal Clarity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 02:15 PM
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21. Has anyone checked out his blog links?
There are others out there like him. I read some of what they had to say w/horrified fascination.

Some very scary stuff there. This embittered, warped kind of mindset should be taken seriously. His/their rantings may seem juvenilistic and ridiculous on the face of it, but when you peel away the surface, there is clearly a malignant rage that is only a loaded gun away from harming someone. And to think they're out there among us, possibly living next door or sharing the workplace is... beyond frightening.

Is society changing, or are we just now becoming more aware of what has always been there?

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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:05 PM
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22. It's a little bit of both.
As rape culture (for lack of a better phrase) becomes less and less acceptable in public, even among non-feminist men, the nastier of the bunch are going to freak the hell out and try to be as dehumanizing and demeaning as possible to women.
They're the Klu Klux Klan and skinheads of gender politics, in other words.

And yes, these are the sort of people that are like the guy that shot the women at the gym. They haven't the foggiest idea why women universally reject them, and they think it's a grand conspiracy among woman-kind. They blame women instead of the fact that they're a crazy shitbag for their problems.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:26 PM
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23. There are anti-rape devices
that women can wear internally that will seriously disable a man's ability to complete the rape.

Yes, they hurt the man like hell. At least one I've seen requires medical assistance to remove.

Some people might think these devices are cruel.

Easy enough to say if they've never been the victims of rape, or if they've never had a female relative who has been the victim of rape.


Any man who thinks he has the right to rape women deserves what he gets...including a mangled weiner.




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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:38 PM
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26. Seriously? How do they work? Can they be disabled if she wants to have sex with
a man?

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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:37 PM
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25. Let the barbarians group up


then take their member list to law enforcement and you'll no doubt solve most of the unsolved rape cases

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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:49 PM
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27. One word: "Teeth" (the movie)
Teeth, the movie:

Plot

Dawn O’Keefe (Jess Weixler) is a teenage spokesperson for a Christian Abstinence group called The Promise. She attends groups with her two friends, Gwen (Julia Garro) and Phil (Adam Wagner). One evening after giving her speech talking about the purity ring those in the group wear and what it means, she is introduced to Tobey (Hale Appleman) and finds him attractive.

The four begin going out as a group, and Dawn has fantasies of marrying Tobey, although after acknowledging the attraction they agree that they cannot spend time together. Soon after they give in and meet at a local swimming hole. After swimming together, they go in to a cave to get warm and begin kissing. Tobey then forces himself on Dawn; in the panic her vagina bites off his penis. Horrified, he stumbles away and she flees the scene. After a Promise meeting, she meets her classmate Ryan (Ashley Springer) at a dance; they talk, and he drops her off at her home.

Read More:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teeth_(film)
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:57 PM
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28. give them some gang rape porn. that will heal them. nt
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Mojeoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:03 PM
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29. What's UP with Norway anyway?
Why isn't this monster boy in jail yet?

It sounds like he's done it already.
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